Top class established Strikers in the market

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RikRuud said:
I think the top class CF is a very rare breed in today's game. 10-15 years ago they were everywhere and most top European clubs had one or more. Since the emergence of the "number 10" the number has decreased somewhat.
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Chelsea have one, Liverpool have one, City have one, Barcelona have two, Madrid have one, Juventus have one, Napoli have one, PSG have two, Bayern have one, etc.
 
Barney said:
Chelsea have one, Liverpool have one, City have one, Barcelona have two, Madrid have one, Juventus have one, Napoli have one, PSG have two, Bayern have one, etc.
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And there were heaps a few years ago,Henry, Ronaldo, Raul, Shevchenko, Crespo, Owen (in his prime) Van Nistelrooy, Cole, Drogba, David Villa, Shearer, Vieri, Del Piero, Totti, Di Natale to name a few. What i'm getting at is the amount that are available to buy at the moment. Most of the world class strikers are already at top, top clubs. We are missing that guy who when put through on goal, you just know its going in. I just think there were more out and out goalscorers match winners out there a few years ago than there is available at the moment.
 
devilish said:
Play Rooney upfront. SORTED
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Since the 09/10 when he had that outstanding season he's occupied a deeper role. Do you think we could have had the same productivity from him if he had stayed as our CF? and maybe even been regarded as one of the elite strikers in world football today?
 
It's been a long time since a genuine goal a game striker has appeared on the scene.

Assuming we can't find one of those I want someone who is fat Ronaldo level fast and an at least semi capable finisher. We have plenty of goal scorers but we have very few who can burn defenders with pace or skill.
 
RikRuud said:
Since the 09/10 when he had that outstanding season he's occupied a deeper role. Do you think we could have had the same productivity from him if he had stayed as our CF? and maybe even been regarded as one of the elite strikers in world football today?
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Lets put it this way. If our problems lied upfront then rest assured that someone between RVP, Rooney or Falcao would have sorted it by now. They are all quality strikers, bigger names to what we had during the treble. The problem lie elsewhere, specifically in a midfield which is too unbalanced to create and a defense too weak to keep the defense tight.

Rooney is not a natural finisher. Time and time again he had shown that he can score alot of goals however he is not RVN or Inzaghi. Nevertheless he brings a different skillset which our forward line needs. He can drop deep, he's hardworking and he's got pace. His unselfishness will not only disrupt defenses which wouldn't know how to mark him but would also encourage our midfield to get more involved in the team. We've already had 2 prima donnas upfront and we're reaping the results for that. Maybe its time to try something different.

I'd say we should let Rooney play upfront and invest in midfield and defense. A 5 men midfield made up of players such as Herrera, Di Maria and 1-2 quality wingers could do wonders to the team. Rooney, Hernandez and Wilson should be good enough for next season if we're aiming for a one striker system.
 
RikRuud said:
We need a Louis Saha type of player without the injuries.
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Louis Saha/Dwight Yorke hybrid would be absolutely perfect. The team does not need another Ruud, we need a livewire who can elevate this teams playing style.
 
If we're looking at bringing a new forward in it has to be one in the mould of Dybala, Vietto, or Paco Alcacer. Someone who is young and has a lot of potential. Theres no sense in spending 50-60 million on Cavani who is massively overrated.
 
We don't need new strikers we just need to stop playing them in formations and line ups that go against all of their attributes.
 
Lacazette has 25 goals and 7 assists in 29 games (at the age of 23). I think he's worth a punt. His record last year was 22 goals and 8 assists in 54 games. The year before he managed 4 goals and 10 assists in 37 games. The year-on-year improvement is there for all to see. Agruably the best young striker in the world at the moment.

I mean 36 goals and 12 assists in 58 league games is pretty impressive considering his age (would be impressive if he was 28, let alone 23).
 
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RikRuud said:
Since the 09/10 when he had that outstanding season he's occupied a deeper role. Do you think we could have had the same productivity from him if he had stayed as our CF? and maybe even been regarded as one of the elite strikers in world football today?
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Most definitely.
 
I do think Aubameyang's pace would help us. He's not perfect, but against teams that play a high line he'd give us a new dimension.
 
I want to clarify. My OP was United oriented cause I thought if strikers thinking what we will do when and if RvP and Falcao leave, but the idea of this thread was to discuss the players available.
Mauro Icardi is an interesting player suggested.
Also, Jackson Martinez is 26. That is not too old TBH.
Some one also suggested an injury free Saha. That's a tasty prospect. Saha was unbelievable, the most complete #9 ever. I always thought that he had more potential than Drogba, but injuries did not let him achieve them.
Bony reminds me of Hasslebaink.
Rooney, Bony, Wilson/RvP and Mata is a good squad for covering #9 and #10 positions.
 
NoLogo said:
Yeah he would also be my favorite but I have a feeling he will already cost a lot of money. 30-40M € in today's market probably but that's a price I would be willing to pay for him.

Griezmann would probably be my second favorite choice but he just moved to Atletico and with the season he is having his price will probably explode so we missed the right time to make a move for him imo.
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Griezmann is fantastic, He would have to play behind the striker though and not sure Van Gaal would play this way based on what we have seen this season, although I must add if we had Griezmann he could easily play the Robben role. O and Griezmann is a United fan to, Thought I'd just put that out there in case people didn't know. (And before you ask for proof his brother posts United pictures all the time on Instagram)
 
Am I missing something? Bony is being mentioned and he's just gone to City.

People can say Rooney over and over but I don't think LvG sees him as a #9 and he has said himself he prefers a deeper role behind the main striker where he can be more involved.

Talisca is an interesting prospect but no one seems to be sure what his actual position is at the moment, and I see Icardi mentioned, too many mentality issues IMO.

For me Dybala and Lacazette look like the best two options and I expect Memphis to arrive regardless.
 
We don't need another striker. Rooney, Van Persie (2nd choice) and Wilson (3rd choice) is enough for one spot.
 
ryan_forlan said:
I want to clarify. My OP was United oriented cause I thought if strikers thinking what we will do when and if RvP and Falcao leave, but the idea of this thread was to discuss the players available.
Mauro Icardi is an interesting player suggested.
Also, Jackson Martinez is 26. That is not too old TBH.
Some one also suggested an injury free Saha. That's a tasty prospect. Saha was unbelievable, the most complete #9 ever. I always thought that he had more potential than Drogba, but injuries did not let him achieve them.
Bony reminds me of Hasslebaink.
Rooney, Bony, Wilson/RvP and Mata is a good squad for covering #9 and #10 positions.
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Martinez is 28. Not too old but not really a long term option.

I really like Lacazette. The perfect age at 23 and one of very few strikers showing his talents in a 442 diamond. Pace, power, work rate, lethal finishing. The next big thing in strikers IMO.
 
If we want a new striker then that would mean Falcao will be gone and RVP on the way out. I think Lacazette is the best option.
 
Not everyone in the team has to be fancy footed and pretty. Someone who can offer some presence or penetration would be fantastic. Scoring records obviously you want as close to one in two as possible, but again it's all about recent history more than anything.

We have three quite similar forwards (one obviously doesn't play there). They like to drop in and make late 'clever' runs. If you play two up top, they can't do the same thing! I like the look of Lacazette on the highlight reels I've seen, but don't know enough to say he would be an ideal player for us. But someone of that nature who is a genuine pain in the arse, a real pace merchant and has a decent scoring record/signs of becoming a consistent goalscorer has to be on the shopping list.

The likes of Aguero and Torres didn't come over with stupidly brilliant goalscoring numbers. But they took the league by storm because at their best they ran rings around defenders.

I still think a real individual goalscoring winger or two would help if we didn't invest further forward. If we want pace and a balanced midfield, that has to be the way to go.
 
Harold Kane £45m on 250k wages. Bang.
 
I know Serie A is not what it was, but I think Dybala or Icardi would do a great job for us. Rooney Wilson and Dybala playing with RVP as backup option.
 
bucky said:
Scouting isn't the same as being interested in a player.
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You didn't say scouting. But there has to be a level of interest to scout a player. Everybody knows about Kovacic now and they should all know that he's nothing special.

Did you mention Sanson in another thread? I'm more impressed by him than I ever have been Kovacic based on highlights. Looks a much more intelligent footballer.
 
Di Marzio says we were scouting Icardi and Dybala.
 
Don't bother with Falcao. Try to sell RvP and get Danny Ings in. Play one upfront. 4231.

Rooney/Ings/Wilson as options as #9.

Mata/Januzaj/Fellaini as #10 in behind.
 
pocco said:
You didn't say scouting. But there has to be a level of interest to scout a player. Everybody knows about Kovacic now and they should all know that he's nothing special.

Did you mention Sanson in another thread? I'm more impressed by him than I ever have been Kovacic based on highlights. Looks a much more intelligent footballer.
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Well, I was responding to the tweet about scouting and some things you just see if you watch players regularly at the ground, for example players like Carrick, Busquets or Xabi Alonso are much less noticeable on the telly than watching them at the stadium. Kind of controversial opinion on Kovacic and a bit harsh in my eyes, Inter isn't exactly the club to be at currently, so it's hard to tell with their players.

Yes, I mentioned Sanson as a player to keep an eye on. @Devil may care started the thread for him. Sanson seems a lot more willing to do what is necessary, he's defensively definitely better than Kovacic.

dxadel said:
Icardi is better than Dybala from what i have seen
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Dybala is more involved in the game and contributes more defensively IMO. I'd prefer him to Icardi.
 
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