If Rafateria did a stats count on the number of times Kraftwerker has mentioned league title and Pool he'd be called out for being an undercover scouser.
Top 4 race 2016/17
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If Rafateria did a stats count on the number of times Kraftwerker has mentioned league title and Pool he'd be called out for being an undercover scouser.
I've given you a lot of credit this year but you're only half good. The side lacks balance.
No side with a dodgy keeper and questionable defence could ever be 'very good' IMO.
I daresay we're a more balanced side more set up for tangible success. I guess we can count trophies come season's end.
Not arroganthe, just betterhe
Or more "never say die" attitude?
HA HA !If Rafateria did a stats count on the number of times Kraftwerker has mentioned league title and Pool he'd be called out for being an undercover scouser.
Last Season
This Season
This Season
Well if Liverpool were able to match what United done post 1990 we might all be on the road to being like Dumpstar.
In the 3 years post 1990 United won a League Cup,European Cup winners cup and the league. Funny enough Liverpool could have done the same.
Liverpool had the chance to win the league cup. Bottled it.
Liverpool had the chance to win the Europa league. Bottled it.
Liverpool had the chance to win the league. Let it slip.
Only Arsenal could have done worse (i don't count Leicester in)Last Season
This Season
ANNUAL TABLE PREMIER LEAGUE 2016
# Club(s) Matches W D L Goals +/- Pts
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Chelsea 36 21 10 5 71:35 36 73
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Spurs 36 19 11 6 65:32 33 68
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Liverpool 36 19 10 7 82:48 34 67
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Arsenal 36 18 12 6 70:37 33 66
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Manchester City 36 19 9 8 70:41 29 66
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Manchester Utd. 36 19 9 8 51:36 15 66
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Southampton 36 18 9 9 50:34 16 63
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Leicester 36 16 11 9 54:40 14 59
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West Ham 36 14 10 12 56:59 -3 52
10
Everton 36 11 11 14 45:48 -3 44
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West Brom 36 10 13 13 39:45 -6 43
12
Bournemouth 36 12 7 17 46:61 -15 43
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Stoke City 36 11 10 15 40:60 -20 43
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Sunderland 36 10 11 15 44:52 -8 41
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Swansea 36 11 7 18 46:65 -19 40
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Watford 36 10 7 19 37:59 -22 37
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Crystal Palace 36 6 8 22 44:67 -23 26
# Club(s) Matches W D L Goals +/- Pts
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Chelsea 36 21 10 5 71:35 36 732
Spurs 36 19 11 6 65:32 33 683
Liverpool 36 19 10 7 82:48 34 674
Arsenal 36 18 12 6 70:37 33 665
Manchester City 36 19 9 8 70:41 29 666
Manchester Utd. 36 19 9 8 51:36 15 667
Southampton 36 18 9 9 50:34 16 638
Leicester 36 16 11 9 54:40 14 599
West Ham 36 14 10 12 56:59 -3 5210
Everton 36 11 11 14 45:48 -3 4411
West Brom 36 10 13 13 39:45 -6 4312
Bournemouth 36 12 7 17 46:61 -15 4313
Stoke City 36 11 10 15 40:60 -20 4314
Sunderland 36 10 11 15 44:52 -8 4115
Swansea 36 11 7 18 46:65 -19 4016
Watford 36 10 7 19 37:59 -22 3717
Crystal Palace 36 6 8 22 44:67 -23 26ANNUAL TABLE PREMIER LEAGUE 2016
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This just shows how an epic failure last season was for Spurs for finishing 3rd last season.
It only covers half of last season and Spurs had a very poor start, 3 points from the first 4 games.
It also shows there's pretty much nothing between the sides 2-6.
it also shows how poor we've been at the back. 7 more goals conceded than anyone else in the top six.
Our goals scored doesn't count for much if the defence is leaky when you consider that United are 31 goals behind us but have only picked up two fewer points.
Our goals scored doesn't count for much if the defence is leaky when you consider that United are 31 goals behind us but have only picked up two fewer points.
ANNUAL TABLE PREMIER LEAGUE 2016
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I'm absolutely amazed to see us at the top of that.
Always 4th. Nailed to itANNUAL TABLE PREMIER LEAGUE 2016
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Agreed with that but unlike for 4 of those top six we've had to get third spot with Skrtel and clown keepers. Those around us have De Gea, Cech, Courtois and Lloris. Plus the better defenders too. The improvement for us is stark and achievable to improve exponentially. For example how easy was it to get Matip in and impact our goals conceded column?
For those other clubs a deeper dive is required why they are where they are or where they need to be.
Damn, I didn't realize United's goal difference was that poor.
Seems like Spurs went through a period where they were barely scoring and just drawing matches and yet their goal difference is +10 on United. Wow.
Seems like Spurs went through a period where they were barely scoring and just drawing matches and yet their goal difference is +10 on United. Wow.
It still amazes us how we even got that close to 4th place last season with how few we scored in the entire campaign.Damn, I didn't realize United's goal difference was that poor.
Seems like Spurs went through a period where they were barely scoring and just drawing matches and yet their goal difference is +10 on United. Wow.
Just keep winning and we'll keep closing the gap!
I would have feared the worst if we hadn't won today. We could have probably dropped down to 5th by wednesday. It would have been such a punch in the face in such a short period of time.
An Arsenal draw would have been very handy.
Hope Saints can prove to be as good as they are against us against Tottenham. Need to start building a gap on the 5th spot again.
Mourinho nailed it, the top teams play each other such as Liverpool v Manchester on NYE. If we beat Boro we definitely make up ground on one of these two or both.
We don't need to worry about anyone but ourselves, if we keep winning, we'll keep climbing and I think only Chelsea are "un-catchable". Chelsea will have a dip, but I think that can afford it.
We don't need to worry about anyone but ourselves, if we keep winning, we'll keep climbing and I think only Chelsea are "un-catchable". Chelsea will have a dip, but I think that can afford it.
After last season, I can't fancy any scenario that Tottenham can finish above you. Their best season in decade and Arsenal still ended up above them.
After last season, I can't fancy any scenario that Tottenham can finish above you. Their best season in decade and Arsenal still ended up above them.
Yep, there is always one thing for sure in our gooners life: forever in our shadows Really could do with beating Stoke today only so we can be on 40 points by the half way stage. Rafateria has shown above that our last 9 games are very winnable given no other commitments. If we earmark 7 wins and 2 losses that's 21 points from those. Giving us a projected 40+21 = 61 points.
Someone on the main forum commented 74 may be enough to finish top 4. Which means that post Stoke game we 'only' need to pick up 13 points in the middle 11 games. I think we can manage that even if we lose all our remaining top six encounters.
Someone on the main forum commented 74 may be enough to finish top 4. Which means that post Stoke game we 'only' need to pick up 13 points in the middle 11 games. I think we can manage that even if we lose all our remaining top six encounters.
This top 4 race is really exciting. I'd say Chelsea/Arsenal are guaranteed to get top 4 so the remaining 2 spots are for Liverpool/City/Utd/Spurs. I reckon Spurs will end up outside top 4 anyway.
Why are Arsenal one of two teams guaranteed to get top 4? They're not even in the top three. I don't see any team garaunteed at this stage, though clearly Chelsea have room for error now. Outside of that I think you'd be silly to suggest anybody is a garauntee.
Really could do with beating Stoke today only so we can be on 40 points by the half way stage. Rafateria has shown above that our last 9 games are very winnable given no other commitments. If we earmark 7 wins and 2 losses that's 21 points from those. Giving us a projected 40+21 = 61 points.
Someone on the main forum commented 74 may be enough to finish top 4. Which means that post Stoke game we 'only' need to pick up 13 points in the middle 11 games. I think we can manage that even if we lose all our remaining top six encounters.
Are your last 9 games really that winnable?
West Ham away, West Brom away, Stoke away, Watford away and you've got to play a Fat Sam Crystal Palace who will be fighting for survival. Southampton at home too isn't a walk over.
I think you'll do well to get 21 points from that 9.
Arsenal always ends up in top 4. They're good at beating smaller clubs consistently.
All teams that will not be involved in relegation or fight for Europe. Players and fans already wondering where they will be going on summer holidays. Isn't that usually how mid table clubs treat end of season games?
Anyway, forget them. What about us!?! One game every 7 days, Mane well back from Afcon. Klopp's hugs.
Based on how we've done in general against sides like that this season, I think a lot of them are very winnable assuming we don't have an injury crisis or derail completely.
We've been dominating and outplaying teams like Watford, West Brom, Palace and Boro all season.
Would you rather be playing the teams in our last nine or having tough games against Top 7/8 sides ? Now there's your answer.
ANNUAL TABLE PREMIER LEAGUE 2016
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That run of form between end of November and December last season really cost us. We were right in the middle of a title race, and it all fell apart during that.
Trying to beat a team fighting for survival is more difficult at the end of the season than now.
Why are people treating this as the title run in when it's only Christmas? These are the type of posts that become relevant in March or at the beginning of April. Not with 19 games left.Really could do with beating Stoke today only so we can be on 40 points by the half way stage. Rafateria has shown above that our last 9 games are very winnable given no other commitments. If we earmark 7 wins and 2 losses that's 21 points from those. Giving us a projected 40+21 = 61 points.
Someone on the main forum commented 74 may be enough to finish top 4. Which means that post Stoke game we 'only' need to pick up 13 points in the middle 11 games. I think we can manage that even if we lose all our remaining top six encounters.
Same this season with the draws really. The good thing to take from that table is it indicates our second half of the season is substantially better than what others managed.
For once I hope the dippers don't bottle it and finish top four with us. Spurs and Arsenal play us and each other in the last four matchdays. Will be a tight finish..