You are wrong I’m afraid
Top 4 Race 19/20 | duffer: "We [Chelsea] are getting 3rd. Despite what the lunatics in here think, Man United are not all that."
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You are wrong I’m afraid
And yet people are still overrating Chelsea and still rating them to finish third while they think we could still blow it
The chances of us dropping more points than Chelsea are close to none especially given our respective fixtures and form right now. Not to mention we are genuinely a top side that is brushing away weaker teams while Chelsea still have question marks in that regard.
Third place is guaranteed. I don't even know why some people are being shy to say it out loud and want to take a pessimistic stance on our chances
Leicester V United / Chelsea v Wolves last day is looking tasty. Might have give Newcastle v Lpool the skip that day.
One thing I took from the Leicester vs Everton game is that Rodgers looked very nervous, he had to throw on Maddison, Perez, Gray and Iheanacho on to try and salvage something from somewhere and failed.
Our performances are definitely rattling a few cages, it's great to see, hopefully our players smell blood and keep going for it.
Our performances are definitely rattling a few cages, it's great to see, hopefully our players smell blood and keep going for it.
Yes, it is both in our and Leicester's hands, at the same time.
Leicester will beat us by winning all their games, and potentially even by losing to us but parking the bus to let in just a goal or two. So in that sense it is in their hands if they deliver.
But it's still in our hands (as well) because as long as we deliver in every game from here on we will take the spot from them.
Exactly!
Driving me nuts
I'm ecstatic, cause we definitely have all the momentum on our side, and do believe we will and can take 3rd place. I still think we can have a slip up here or there, but our rivals will slip up more than us I believe.
Oh yeah I agree, but I’m just saying factually speaking Chelsea win theirs and Leicester do too and even lose to us we finish 5th.
The fact all our rivals play eachother and we have Leicester last game, I would tend to agree. United have the best run in and are in immense for currently. Add to this we have possibly the best squad outside the top 2 then my confidence is rock solid.
Ole will hopefully shut all doubters up.
We bloody play Leicester though so It’s in our hands to beat them by the required score!!! Jesus are you on the wind up?
It is on our hands to outscore Leicester in every game that is left. There is no limit to the amount of goals we are able to score.
What you are saying is that we are unable to do that which is patently wrong.
stop saying it’s in our hands, it’s not.This man understands! Thank you! Two clubs can have it ‘in their hands’ so to speak
Mon 13th: Soton (H)
Thu 16th: Palace (A)
Sun 19th: Chelsea (N)
Wed 22nd: West Ham (H)
I stand corrected. Got the fixtures off of the BBC website
Agreed
If tonight is anything to put a reality check on people, it's you guys losing to West Ham.
This is football, bloody hell. Upsets happen all the time.
Hell if I'm going to be so positive to think it's nailed on we will all our remaining matches. Do I want that to happen? Feck yes, is it possible, of course. But is us dropping points also very possible, most certainly.
The only confidence I have is that our rivals, Chelsea, Leicester and Wolves will drop more points than us, enough to make us take 3rd place.
That could be us lose 2 games, but all 3 other teams losing 3 games and drawing 1 or something like that.
Practically tempting Barca.
Well this is an entertaining exchange
Glad to hear that, regardless of what happens I think we can both agree that one way or another, United are likely to be playing Champions League football next season.
It's not factually wrong if you believe smashing Leicester 10-0 or something keeps it in our hands
Ultimately we are dependant on Leicester or Chelsea doing worse than we do whether that be them scoring less goals than us, or dropping more points. Those 2 are not. That’s a fact regardless, therefore it is in their hands.
I will repeat though I think we will do it!
Only danger for me is that we'll need to be more than 3 points ahead of Leicester come the final day head-to-head, to make sure they can't finish ahead of us if they somehow sneak the win.
If Wolves win their remaining games they go above Chelsea.
If they go into that game on the necessary rin of form then theyll finish above Wolves imo
If they go into that game on the necessary rin of form then theyll finish above Wolves imo
Remember this prediction lads!
I wouldn't mind United taking a cheeky punt on Willian if Sancho's price is too high. Personally, I would love Greenwood to become a Mo Salah like goalscoring inside right. So I ain't that bothered about getting Sancho. Willian knows the league, he's very good on his day and like Ighalo he's of an age where he won't be a long term obstacle to Mason.
As for Chelsea I agree with you. They play some nice looking stuff at times but unlike their great sides they have a soft underbelly. City's bottle job doesn't cover that up. Also none of the signings they've made will address that. They seem to be stockpiling style but not steel.
It is in our hands.
Wait, are we talking about penises?
Wait, are we talking about penises?
I’m confused. Is it in our hands or not?!
They are 3 points ahead with 9 goal difference.
If they win all their games just like us till last day, since we have no clue what the GD will be by then, cause it's all based on hopes and prayers, where in history has a team won on by 10 goals to get the GD needed to pass someone on points. So as of now, it's more in Leicesters hands than ours...
Are you on a slow down?
So you think that when city beat us to the title by GD and if we won our game by some absurd scoreline, think it was like 7-0 or something the title was in our hands?
No.
We can win all of our matches and still not finish above Leicester or Chelsea, therefore it is most certainly not in our hands.
We can score as many as we want but we have no control over how many Leicester score (outside of the final game) so again, not in our hands.
That's my fecking point. Where in History has that ever happened. To say it is I think I our hands is just dumb, it's more in theirs until it's more in ours.
Good point I suppose.
And yet people are still overrating Chelsea and still rating them to finish third while they think we could still blow it
The chances of us dropping more points than Chelsea are close to none especially given our respective fixtures and form right now. Not to mention we are genuinely a top side that is brushing away weaker teams while Chelsea still have question marks in that regard.
Third place is guaranteed. I don't even know why some people are being shy to say it out loud and want to take a pessimistic stance on our chances
If this isn't satire it's pretty ridiculous overhyped stuff that suggests you haven't learnt anything from both watching us and general football over the years!
Big chance now if we keep our performance level up. Leicester taking just 2pts out of 9 has been a major boost. Chelsea result tonight shows anything can happen and could just as easily happen to us though.
Can we just get off the fecking hands and focus on the fact that our rivals drop points and we have a massive chance to get 3rd place. Feck hands and all.
True, but generally throwing in the difficult games means it's probably easier to average out how a team will do. Chelsea I expected to lose 2 games between the restart and the last day - to City and Liverpool. They beat City but lost to West Ham instead (local derby, tough away game). It's not always about individual game predictions, but more how many from a set of fixtures. United have a set of fixtures before the last game that from the restart, I thought we'd win all but 1 or 2 games (drawing to Spurs and probably Palace). We drew to Spurs, still think we'll likely drop points in one more fixture before Leicester but it's possible we win them all. Point is that it was a set of 8 fixtures where I was guessing we would gain 20 of an available 24 points, leading up to the last day, whereas Leicester and Chelsea had more games where they would drop points in (and losses vs draws). They might not happen where you expect it to, but it's still safe to guess it will happen as an offset elsewhere.
It's also fecking dumb they way we going about as if we have won the rest of our games already.
My point is I believe our rivals will drop sufficient points for us to pip them to 3rd place, however that looks.
My point is I believe our rivals will drop sufficient points for us to pip them to 3rd place, however that looks.
I’m afraid that is not in your hands my man.
Why 10 nil? 5 nil would do it as it stands now...but let's us not forget we could out score them a goal here and there leading up that game. 2 nil might be enough then
And they could outscore us until our last match and lose against us but still have the better GD.
Its all hopes and what ifs, right now, but it's clear that they don't have it in them to win all games till us, and we have a better chance at winning all games, but as tonight clearly reminds us, it's never a guarantee.
So confident but not better by house on it.