Too early to be getting worried?

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Red Comet said:
We need a director of football to work on the signings. Let Woody focus on his job of generating revenue.
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Why would a director of football make any sense at all when Van Gaal and his scouting team choose their targets?

As far as money goes, that's the role of the CEO. It won't just be Woodward on his own either, he'll have accountants and solicitors advising and handing contracts and negotiations with selling clubs.


It's so naive to think that if we had some sort of Director of Football he'd have some sort of magic negotiation skillset that would draw any other response than "you're rich as feck, you can afford it so pay up".


Edit- To add to this there been very little activity across Europe (Liverpool the exception with 3 free transfers, overpaying for a player no other "top" team was in for, a young english defender with a year on his contract and an 18 year old Championship player for nearly £4m).

The reason barely any transfers have been made is because players are only just returning to their clubs from holiday and selling clubs have no interest in letting them go too easily when traditionally speaking the fees only go up as buying clubs get desperate. The transfer merry-go-round hasn't kicked in yet.
 
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Must admit I'm really quite concerned now, if it gets to this time this week and we are in the same position then I will be massively concerned. In fact I must say I won't be looking forward to the tour as much in all honesty.
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
Must admit I'm really quite concerned now, if it gets to this time this week and we are in the same position then I will be massively concerned. In fact I must say I won't be looking forward to the tour as much in all honesty.
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I hate to break it to you, but we are already there.
 
I'm just hoping the Ramos/De Gea sagas are acting just as smokescreen to cover 4 or 5 other deals we are tying up...If not then we are fecked for the start of the season again!
 
Well at the moment it's certainly not looking good so far in regards to getting our targets in before pre-season.
 
Starting to get a little nervy now, isn't it?

At this point I'd be delighted if we signed 2 players in the next week or two. Still gives us another 6-7 weeks to pursue a couple additional signings - assuming we are still looking for 4 more signings.
 
If we don't see any movement by the end of next week then it's not going to plan. Time for the backup list.
 
So, anyone else not fazed by the supposed lack of transfer activity? 1, tops 2 deals might take longer than expected but the rest will be here next week, the club is just keeping things quiet pretty well this time.
 
I'm not that worried yet. I reckon Adidas will want a mega star signing this window, which will obviously take time. Could be Ramos, Kane etc but I think one big signing will happen. The other pieces of the jigsaw will fall into places in the next two weeks.
 
Maybe Van Gaal is preferring to wait on Strootman as opposed to going in fully for Schneiderlin who he hasn't seemed that bothered on.....I don't think there's anything to worry about just yet...We were never getting the superstars the media told us we would get but Van Gaal will make sure that he will sign a whole new spine before going into next season even if he is forced to sign plan B targets instead such as Krychowiak, Kamil Glik etc but you'd hope that there will be at least one superstar name arriving in the forward line where we make an offer that the selling club couldn't refuse to land a Kane or a Benzema to give us a bit more pace up front but that won't be any straight forward task by any stretch and might not happen
 
3rdCarter said:
At a snail's pace then.
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Players and clubs will do what's best for them, they won't be rushed, and will naturally wait for all offers to come to make a considerate offer, it'll also give them leverage in negotiating better deals. Right now this is a sellers market, they control the pace in which things move, not the buying club. The players we are after are of the highest calibre and clubs won't be content with letting them go unless they have an adequate replacement in place. It'll pick up.
 
Some of you need to get a grip. People are making out like we have been woeful in this transfer market and are pissing away already any chances of success next year. As far as other clubs see it, we have already spent £30m on one of the hottest talents in Europe, and we have been more active than nearly every other top 5 team in terms of bidding and showing interest in players.

It's the 3rd of July, some clubs haven't even got a manager in place. Some people are so childish they just want literally anyone (aslong as there are some Youtube videos of them and they have a half decent rating on FIFA) to sign for us to give them that new signing rush. It takes time negotiating deals for top players, and it's early days anyway. In 4 weeks time and we still haven't strengthened in the appropriate positions, then it is time to worry - although even then we would have another 4 weeks until the window shuts!
 
Offside said:
Some of you need to get a grip. People are making out like we have been woeful in this transfer market and are pissing away already any chances of success next year. As far as other clubs see it, we have already spent £30m on one of the hottest talents in Europe, and we have been more active than nearly every other top 5 team in terms of bidding and showing interest in players.

It's the 3rd of July, some clubs haven't even got a manager in place. Some people are so childish they just want literally anyone (aslong as there are some Youtube videos of them and they have a half decent rating on FIFA) to sign for us to give them that new signing rush. It takes time negotiating deals for top players, and it's early days anyway. In 4 weeks time and we still haven't strengthened in the appropriate positions, then it is time to worry - although even then we would have another 4 weeks until the window shuts!
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I think the point is that it takes new players time to bed in. The season starts in just over a month so it would be good to have players bedding in and getting used to our style of play during the tour. Leaving it late just makes it likely to drop silly points at the start of the season...
 
lilcurt said:
I think the point is that it takes new players time to bed in. The season starts in just over a month so it would be good to have players bedding in and getting used to our style of play during the tour. Leaving it late just makes it likely to drop silly points at the start of the season...
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Quite so, It takes time for players to blend in, it takes even more time for players from another league to get used to the PL. It is one thing to have go get used to a new manager and a lot harder to have to settle in a new league under a new manager.

We won 5 points from 15 possible in our first 5 games last year... and that was versus teams that we should have beaten. This is all hypothetical ofc. but.- if we had gotted 10 points out of 15 and the remainder of the season went the same way, we would have finished 3rd now not 4th or at least we would have been on equal points as Arsenal.

That is why Van Gaal aslo wants his signing completed before the tour. Players will settle in easier with the rest of the team when there are games with no pressure.
 
lilcurt said:
I think the point is that it takes new players time to bed in. The season starts in just over a month so it would be good to have players bedding in and getting used to our style of play during the tour. Leaving it late just makes it likely to drop silly points at the start of the season...
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Exactly!
 
lilcurt said:
I think the point is that it takes new players time to bed in. The season starts in just over a month so it would be good to have players bedding in and getting used to our style of play during the tour. Leaving it late just makes it likely to drop silly points at the start of the season...
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Looks like everyone but Liverpool will be dropping silly points at the beginning of the season then.
 
tbf the start won't be as bad as last season. The team is more steady and more gelled than it was last season and LVG doesn't need to experiment as much anymore.

Last year was literally the beginning of the rebuild, thats why our record was so bad. That being said a CB would be really sweet before start because they'll need time to get familar with team mates and LVG's style
 
ivaldo said:
Looks like everyone but Liverpool will be dropping silly points at the beginning of the season then.
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Not really Chelsea and dare I say Arsenal probably don't need to strengthen as much as we do. As you say Liverpool have made headway, even though I only rate two of their signings. City are as clueless as ever.
 
lilcurt said:
I think the point is that it takes new players time to bed in. The season starts in just over a month so it would be good to have players bedding in and getting used to our style of play during the tour. Leaving it late just makes it likely to drop silly points at the start of the season...
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Mate, we are still in the first week of July.
 
ivaldo said:
Players and clubs will do what's best for them, they won't be rushed, and will naturally wait for all offers to come to make a considerate offer, it'll also give them leverage in negotiating better deals. Right now this is a sellers market, they control the pace in which things move, not the buying club. The players we are after are of the highest calibre and clubs won't be content with letting them go unless they have an adequate replacement in place. It'll pick up.
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Frustrating as it can be, this is a very fair point.
 
lilcurt said:
Not really Chelsea and dare I say Arsenal probably don't need to strengthen as much as we do. As you say Liverpool have made headway, even though I only rate two of their signings. City are as clueless as ever.
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Arsenal scraped into 3rd, again. Chelsea arent going go sit still, they'll be making signings too, their champions league campaign wasn't exactly successful.
 
If nothing happens this week, well then I'll be getting quite worried tbh.
 
Shark said:
If nothing happens this week, well then I'll be getting quite worried tbh.
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Same here. We'll be left with what 3 or so weeks before the season starts? I realize we can sign players until end of Aug, but I doubt we'll be able to get all of our targets once the season starts.
 
thejtrain said:
Same here. We'll be left with what 3 or so weeks before the season starts? I realize we can sign players until end of Aug, but I doubt we'll be able to get all of our targets once the season starts.
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05 July start of pre season by training at carrington
13 July we jet off to the US
17 July we play Club America
21 July we play San Jose earthquakes
25 July we play Barcelona
29 July we play PSG
08 August we play Tottenham
14 August we play Aston Villa
18 or 19 august we play CL qualifier first leg
22 august we play Newcastle United
25 or 26 august we play CL qualifier second leg
30 august we play Swansea

-Our only signing to have full preseaon is Depay
-If nothing happens this week we'll jet off to US with only Depay as new player
-After that pre season will be over in like 2 weeks and season will start in a little more than 3
-If we sign nobody begin august we'll be well and turely fecked looking at the extremly bizzy august schedule

If this week we don't make some key signings I think panic mode should be on
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
05 July start of pre season by training at carrington
13 July we jet off to the US
17 July we play Club America
21 July we play San Jose earthquakes
25 July we play Barcelona
29 July we play PSG
08 August we play Tottenham
14 August we play Aston Villa
18 or 19 august we play CL qualifier first leg
22 august we play Newcastle United
25 or 26 august we play CL qualifier second leg
30 august we play Swansea

-Our only signing to have full preseaon is Depay
-If nothing happens this week we'll jet off to US with only Depay as new player
-After that pre season will be over in like 2 weeks and season will start in a little more than 3
-If we sign nobody begin august we'll be well and turely fecked looking at the extremly bizzy august schedule

If this week we don't make some key signings I think panic mode should be on
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With the timetable laid out like this I do feel that we need to be more active. Depay can't be the only new signing getting a full pre season, all things considered.

Movement will most likely be this week but if nothing happens before the tour then it's fair to say we are moving behind schedule. Especially when taking into how much lvg barked on about new signings getting a pre season.

good post.
 
3rdCarter said:
With the timetable laid out like this I do feel that we need to be more active. Depay can't be the only new signing getting a full pre season, all things considered.

Movement will most likely be this week but if nothing happens before the tour then it's fair to say we are moving behind schedule. Especially when taking into how much lvg barked on about new signings getting a pre season.

good post.
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Getting our signings in august is just too late if you look at the timetable

Because new signings also need time to integrate in the team and that won't just happen over night, need atleast a few weeks of training and preferably a game or 2-3 where you can experiment with the team and give them some playing minutes.
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
05 July start of pre season by training at carrington
13 July we jet off to the US
17 July we play Club America
21 July we play San Jose earthquakes
25 July we play Barcelona
29 July we play PSG
08 August we play Tottenham
14 August we play Aston Villa
18 or 19 august we play CL qualifier first leg
22 august we play Newcastle United
25 or 26 august we play CL qualifier second leg
30 august we play Swansea

-Our only signing to have full preseaon is Depay
-If nothing happens this week we'll jet off to US with only Depay as new player
-After that pre season will be over in like 2 weeks and season will start in a little more than 3
-If we sign nobody begin august we'll be well and turely fecked looking at the extremly bizzy august schedule

If this week we don't make some key signings I think panic mode should be on
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Wait what? The league starts on 8th of August?
 
Sunny Jim said:
Feck me sideways, we dont have much time do we.
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It is the reason why LVG made such a big point about getting things done early this summer and also why he didn't want to feck about with a prolonged and tiresome commercial tour like last season.

Also the reason why many are so concerned and worried by the lack of the signings.
 
No idea what the heck is going on. Based on media reports alone, it looks like we've gone back to a brainless spray and pray approach, kinda like Woodys first window but with more anonymity. Why are we even wasting time chasing players like Kane?

Clamping down on the panic, it also looks like we're ready to let Nani and RVP go, and I don't think we'd be so stupid to do that without first being assured of additions being made...right? :nervous:
 
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