Too early to be getting worried?

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Anyone seen the theory doing the rounds that we've got various deals wrapped up but as per Adidas' wishes are holding back announcements until we are legally allowed to present them holding an Adidas shirt rather than Nike.

The thought is that Adidas bosses aren't too taken with the idea that this summers signings are likely part funded with the huge Adidas sponsor money and could be presented with a Nike shirt.
 
Pexbo said:
Anyone seen the theory doing the rounds that we've got various deals wrapped up but as per Adidas' wishes are holding back announcements until we are legally allowed to present them holding an Adidas shirt rather than Nike.

The thought is that Adidas bosses aren't too taken with the idea that this summers signings are likely part funded with the huge Adidas sponsor money and could be presented with a Nike shirt.
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What about Depay ?

Also, if that were the case wouldn't we sign players and just wait until August 1st to unveil them ?
 
Pexbo said:
Anyone seen the theory doing the rounds that we've got various deals wrapped up but as per Adidas' wishes are holding back announcements until we are legally allowed to present them holding an Adidas shirt rather than Nike.

The thought is that Adidas bosses aren't too taken with the idea that this summers signings are likely part funded with the huge Adidas sponsor money and could be presented with a Nike shirt.
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Contractual terms aren't made up on the fly though? Let alone something of this nature.
 
Pexbo said:
Anyone seen the theory doing the rounds that we've got various deals wrapped up but as per Adidas' wishes are holding back announcements until we are legally allowed to present them holding an Adidas shirt rather than Nike.

The thought is that Adidas bosses aren't too taken with the idea that this summers signings are likely part funded with the huge Adidas sponsor money and could be presented with a Nike shirt.
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Some wind-up load of rubbish off Twitter from earlier this week. Caught on because people have nothing better to than believe nonsense off Twitter.
 
Pexbo said:
Anyone seen the theory doing the rounds that we've got various deals wrapped up but as per Adidas' wishes are holding back announcements until we are legally allowed to present them holding an Adidas shirt rather than Nike.

The thought is that Adidas bosses aren't too taken with the idea that this summers signings are likely part funded with the huge Adidas sponsor money and could be presented with a Nike shirt.
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Don't believe it for a second. If the whole issue is having them take a picture with the Adidas shirt, can we not just simply announce the deal now then wait until August to take the pictures?

Even if there were deals in place, the news would leak eventually. The likes of Schneiderlin won't turn up to training sessions if they already agreed a move to United.
 
Pexbo said:
Anyone seen the theory doing the rounds that we've got various deals wrapped up but as per Adidas' wishes are holding back announcements until we are legally allowed to present them holding an Adidas shirt rather than Nike.

The thought is that Adidas bosses aren't too taken with the idea that this summers signings are likely part funded with the huge Adidas sponsor money and could be presented with a Nike shirt.
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But that would mean they can't be involved in our pre-season - can't see Van Gaal agreeing to that. Couldn't they just be announced but not unveiled formally till August?
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
But that would mean they can't be involved in our pre-season - can't see Van Gaal agreeing to that. Couldn't they just be announced but not unveiled formally till August?
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Hire 15 people to constantly cover the new signings under a white sheet? Even during training and the pre-season matches.

Can't see any truth to this like you said.
 
NL Max said:
Hire 15 people to constantly cover the new signings under a white sheet? Even during training and the pre-season matches.

Can't see any truth to this like you said.
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The only truth I could conceivably see to this is maybe one massive signing being delayed if it was heavily funded by Adidas. A Messi or a Ronaldo level one.
 
Pexbo said:
Anyone seen the theory doing the rounds that we've got various deals wrapped up but as per Adidas' wishes are holding back announcements until we are legally allowed to present them holding an Adidas shirt rather than Nike.

The thought is that Adidas bosses aren't too taken with the idea that this summers signings are likely part funded with the huge Adidas sponsor money and could be presented with a Nike shirt.
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It stared in some thread in here and it got taken up on twitter probably.
 
I am not panicked, I am however surprised about the overall lack of "done deals" among the top teams so far.
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
I never said that...

I said there are alot of other teams that are way better than us at doing transfers.

You can laugh all you want but it is just a fact. The things I wrote down are just common sense, I don't claim that United or LVG don't know this stuff, they will know it better than anyone here on the Caf and they will know it better than me but they are just not good at it or atleast not as good as other clubs.

Things like how to do transfers properly is not rocket science in theory but to pull it off in practice is hard especially in a very competitive environment. You need the best people, not only a trainer and manager but also a good scouting network, good negotiators, good relationships with other clubs and what I tried to say with that post is United doesn't have the best people for these things. Because if they did they would be far more succesfull in the transfermarket.

It is so easy to throw away all criticm aimed at United by using the same old arguments, they are more experienced than you so you should shut up about every aspect because you know nothing about it. Like people can't be critical at the government because they don't have experience being politicians, it is the easiest counter argumentation to use if you have nothing sensefull to say against the criticsm and it is also the most stupid argumentation.

My post was also aimed at the argumentation that certain posters say we waist time bargaining and the same people claim we end up overpaying. If you don't nuancate it is easy to say those people are contradicting themselves but they are not. The point is United are not the best in class to pull off transfers we waist time in negotiations especially when we try to bargain which never works because we never pull it off and the result is that we are often forced to end up overpaying for players or risk being left empty handed. The overpaying wouldn't be a problem if it were the right players but often they are not and it would be worth it if we'd get our players early and on time but we never do because we try the lowball approach until we realise it doesn't work.
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cant you ever do a reply that doesnt consist of a 2000 word essay?
 
golden_blunder said:
cant you ever do a reply that doesnt consist of a 2000 word essay?
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The more you type, the less they read, the less they argue. It's a method I've been using to win pointless online arguments since 2007.
 
I'm very calm but small concerns would be fairly warranted at this point. I thought something would happen this week in all honesty. If nothing has changed over the next two weeks then we can assume that our intentions haven't quite gone as planned. Let's wait and see.
 
Pexbo said:
Anyone seen the theory doing the rounds that we've got various deals wrapped up but as per Adidas' wishes are holding back announcements until we are legally allowed to present them holding an Adidas shirt rather than Nike.

The thought is that Adidas bosses aren't too taken with the idea that this summers signings are likely part funded with the huge Adidas sponsor money and could be presented with a Nike shirt.
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Possible I guess
 
Kag said:
I'm very calm but small concerns would be fairly warranted at this point. I thought something would happen this week in all honesty. If nothing has changed over the next two weeks then we can assume that our intentions haven't quite gone as planned. Let's wait and see.
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Am I right in saying we kick off first match of preseason tour on 17th this month? If so I really do hope everyone is signed, sealed and on the plane preparing for those games. So like you say it's basically 2 weeks to get the new players in. I'd be very worried if nothing has happened in those couple of weeks.

I want a settled squad this year and I want to know our team before the season kicks off for real.
 
RikRuud said:
I am not panicked, I am however surprised about the overall lack of "done deals" among the top teams so far.
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None of the top teams need signings like we do.

Chelsea and Arsenal especially have no reason to be hasty. We really need a cb and cm before the tour.

Tick tock woody.
 
3rdCarter said:
None of the top teams need signings like we do.

Chelsea and Arsenal especially have no reason to be hasty. We really need a cb and cm before the tour.

Tick tock woody.
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I wonder if this will be the summer that stops people continually saying we need a CM.

Last summer we bought Herrera and Blind.
The season before, Fellaini, and Mata.

Over £100m of midfielders, but most will say we still need 2!
(I'm aware people will say some of those 4 aren't the right "sort" of midfielder, but will we ever get the right sort in)
 
For the first time a little bit of worry is creeping into my mind over us not getting our targets.

It's just nonsensical that having said it all needs to be wrapped up early due to LvG's approach, early PL start, and massive income generating CL qualifiers, that we would be low balling in all our bids, plus run the risk of losing Schneiderlin, and Otemendi over some ego posturing over Ramos, and punting on Schweinstegier.

Reality is that alot of the players just migth not want to join.
 
Sandikan said:
I wonder if this will be the summer that stops people continually saying we need a CM.

Last summer we bought Herrera and Blind.
The season before, Fellaini, and Mata.

Over £100m of midfielders, but most will say we still need 2!
(I'm aware people will say some of those 4 aren't the right "sort" of midfielder, but will we ever get the right sort in)
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Well it has not, has fellaini mata and blind solved the teams midfield problems? No. Like many have said, a long term Carrick replacement will be required, and if anything happens to Herrera, it becomes a problem. So the team still needs 2
 
A bit frustrated and a little concerned now, but still feel we'll get players in. If I'm sat here in fortnight and we still haven't done any more activity, I'll imagine I'll be a bit more worried then with the season three weeks away at that point.

Most important thing to me is that we get the right players in. If that needs to wait a bit longer, so be it.
 
In theory Schneiderlin could go to Arsenal, Schweinsteiger sign a new contract with Bayern, Ramos sign a new contract with Real Madrid, Otamendi gets snatched by Chelsea and De Gea ends up at Madrid.

I'm not that bothered though, our squad is fine providing Louis van Gaal plays players in their actual positions and uses an ordinary formation, I'm also sure we will spend big on one player late in the window even if it means getting ripped off, Juventus will sell Vidal, Dortmund Gundognan if the offer is right, there are plenty of selling clubs with quality players.

It's then up to Louis van Gaal to be creative and find a working combination, last season we did well against the better teams but struggled against the 'weaker' teams however I think this season with Rooney as the striker, Depay and Angel di Maria as the wingers we should have more goals and create more chances against them. If the manager wants to he could play Mata as a 10 in a 4-2-3-1, the team would lack the physical presence with Herrera and Carrick holding but that's fine, they'll be better at keeping the ball, they just need to press as a unit to win it back.
 
I'm still not worried. I think we will get what we need.
If all the big teams had strengthened considerably and all of our targets were unavailable and we were the only ones twiddling our thumbs, then I'd consider worrying. The current situation if far from that.
 
Unlikely lad said:
Didn't he just sign a new contract last week?
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Yes - and nothing more seems to have been heard about Hummels.

Woodward hasn't exactly covered himself in glory in his first two Summer transfer windows, he needs to gain some credibility this time but so far there's no suggestion he will.
 
I thought June would be an active month for us. Quite surprised Depay is the only signing so far. Not worried though. We still have just under 2 months before the window shuts.
 
Looks a very similar strategy to last summer, early business before sitting on our hands for quite some time before completing some opportunist signings late in the window.
 
Unlikely lad said:
Didn't he just sign a new contract last week?
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Yes but that's most likely because nobody wanted to pay the asking price for him or take the risk on him, with us this early in the window you pursue your preferred targets. That said Dortmund are a selling club, it's only a two year contract, if we pay a high price for him Dortmund would sell.

I personally wouldn't bother with Gundognan, if we haven't signed anybody and there is two weeks to go then offer £40m+ for players like Vidal, if that's not happening then identify where we need squad players to absorb injuries and sign a stop gap or two.

Perhaps somebody who can play both as an 8 and 6 to offer cover for Herrera and Carrick + Blind.

As for our first team it should be good enough to compete for the premier league championship even if we won't be favourites.
 
Rednotdead said:
Yes - and nothing more seems to have been heard about Hummels.

Woodward hasn't exactly covered himself in glory in his first two Summer transfer windows, he needs to gain some credibility this time but so far there's no suggestion he will.
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It's not just Woodward, it's Louis van Gaal too. Take Otamendi, from my understanding £35m pounds and he's ours, if Louis van Gaal wants to flirt with Sergio Ramos then he's playing a risky game. If it pays off he'll be credited with it, if it doesn't (and in the mean time Otamendi goes elsewhere) he should be criticised for it, not Woodward.
 
I am getting a wee bit worried now..I have serious concerns about our activity(or lack of) at the moment.
 
We need a director of football to work on the signings. Let Woody focus on his job of generating revenue.
 
JTW95 said:
I thought June would be an active month for us. Quite surprised Depay is the only signing so far. Not worried though. We still have just under 2 months before the window shuts.
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We do, correct. However, we go to the US tour what, in a week time? Down the years how many deals have we, or any club concluded whilst away on tour? Not to mention the fact the tour is meant to be the chance for new players to bed in to the squad. A situation like last year where we signed three players after the opening game of the league season (in which we didn't win any of the first three) can not happen again and given the amount of moaning LVG did about it, I'm surprised that that looks like a possibility.

We have plenty of time to conclude deals but in a perfect world we should have already secured our top targets, just like Chelsea did last summer.
 
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