This is painful. Would be the perfect signing, but we've been here before, and we had CL football then. Would be one hell of a coup if Moyes could pull it off.
Toni Kroos | Madridista
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Typical contractual haggling. He's not ruling anything out IF he were to leave.
You guys really think he would leave Guardiola to join.......... David Moyes?
You guys really think he would leave Guardiola to join.......... David Moyes?
Leave his apparent £75k pay packet for a £200k+ one?
It seems so... Considering Bayern's higher ups have come out numerous times and said he's demanding to much money.
You guys really think he would leave Guardiola to join.......... David Moyes?
Exactly... it would be like saying someone like Mata would leave Mourinho for Moyes.
If only there was more to it.
For my part, I'll be shocked if he does anything but sign a contract extension at Bayern.
He may have been flirting with United in order to get a better deal - but if United have offered him a massive pay rise, much more so than Bayern would ever offer, then that changes things. If offered £200k a week he would need to seriously consider his options.
United will pay more than other clubs in terms of wages if they're not in the CL, and he might been keen to take advantage of that. He clearly feels he's undervalued at Bayern and the fact that his agent is Goetze's agent, and well aware of what he's on wont help.
We have interest in one of the two, evident by Moyes being escorted around and sitting with Kroos/Goetze's agent. I think he's probably well aware what we'll offer already, he's just holding out for Bayern to crack.
Thank you for posting that, my brain spoke it as I read it...
BBC are becoming more and more muppet friendly as the years go by.
Although, given how perfect a signing he would be, it is best to probably be a pessimist about this one there is a genuine chance he could leave.
As well as only being offered terms way below what he would expect (been on same deal for last four years and not expecting to even become one of top earners at club) this situation is further complicated by egos.
Some at Bayern (including Rumenigge) taken their stance and not keen to concede ground.
Obviously, if he does decide to leave won't be a free run at him.
As well as only being offered terms way below what he would expect (been on same deal for last four years and not expecting to even become one of top earners at club) this situation is further complicated by egos.
Some at Bayern (including Rumenigge) taken their stance and not keen to concede ground.
Obviously, if he does decide to leave won't be a free run at him.
Exactly - sunny madrid playing alongside modric coached by anchelotti playing in the cl
or rainy manchester trying to play alongside cleverly / fellaini coached by moyes playing in the uefa... even if he did fancy rainy manchester playing alongside toure in the cl may well be more tempting.
Great player and I would love it to happen but I cant why he would pick us - even if we offered tons of money so would city, psg and possibly chelsea as well as he would be great for all of them - infact except barca and bayern I think he would be pretty much guaranteed a starting role whenever he is fit
They probably realise they needs clicks just like everyone else.
Who knows, Tony may actually love rain more than the sun
He's a pasty German not a bronzed latino. I doubt sun is high on his agenda.
It's also about fitting players in though. Most teams don't have the pressing needs in central midfield we have and this couldn't justify 30m odd on someone who would become one of their highest earners. If he does leave then we are definitely in the frame.
That's the spirit yo'.
Or, play as the main midfielder where he'll face zero competition for his position, be amongst the highest paid in the club (and in his age bracket worldwide), play in the biggest football club stadium in England for a club which has the most fans worldwide.
Bit of a RAWKish post but I felt a little bit of positivity shouldn't go amiss.
Who knows, Tony may actually love rain more than the sun
It's fecking lovely weather here in Manchester today, so there!
You guys really think he would leave Guardiola to join.......... David Moyes?
...not quite that black and white though is it mate...Of all the reasons a player could choose or refuse to play for a team, why do some people give weather so much importance ? I know there are people who are dead serious about it.
Ronaldo. And I'm fairly sure it rains as much, if not more, in Munich as it does in Manchester.
As in Cristiano ? You're not serious are you ?
It's after Ronaldo's desire to move to sunny Spain that I have started to hear more and more about people talking about the Manchester weather. Hardly heard it before that.
You could be right but obviously we all know weather over there is just a bonus, it was all about joining his "dream" club and becoming a legend for them.
I think you're right. I just googled for climate charts for Munich and Manchester:
We have more rain, the winter is colder. Pretty sure Munich is way more beautiful though
.Honestly I always thought this as well.
Then I went to Spain last September for the first time in my life, for a week, and realised what I had been missing.
Money can buy you a shitload of things, but it cant buy you a different climate. If it wasnt for the fact that their economy is as bad as my Spanish I would move out there in a second.
Not that I think this would be an important factor in us signing, or not signing, Kroos.
The more I entertain the idea of him potentially signing, the more disheartened I become, the latest note running through my mind being: Moyes and his agent being spotted... in a very discreet manner, almost an air of secrecy abound... oh wait, it was a meetup in public where nobody managed to spot the pair, take multiple pictures and/or report on the meeting.
I don't see this ending well for us, its potentially the Fabregas and Ronaldo summer escapde all over again, perhaps I'm just a pessimist, I don't know.
I don't see this ending well for us, its potentially the Fabregas and Ronaldo summer escapde all over again, perhaps I'm just a pessimist, I don't know.
I think you're right. I just googled for climate charts for Munich and Manchester:
We have more rain, the winter is colder. Pretty sure Munich is way more beautiful though
He does not come from Munich but from near the Baltic sea and near the Polish border. Greifswald. The temperature there is different to that in Munich...
Suppose this is our home for the long summer months then. I fear he's using us to multiply his wages at Bayern, like many of you. But I'm still confident we'll deliver top quality signings this summer.
I'm pretty sure he works in Munich at the moment.
Yeah, supporters don't really realize that its the players' life after all, and the place he lives in matters quite a bit. It's not all about the football or the paycheck for some of them, some want to have their families settled in a nice area (not saying Manchester isn't nice of course, but its all down to personal preference).
I think he'll stay at Bayern. If he does decide to leave then every big club will get involved.
Serious question though, is he a better option than the likes of Gundogan/Koke etc? I know he's very good technically, though I've never rated him as highly as some on here. It's just the other side of the game that I'm wondering about. I've spoke with people that watch Bayern quite a bit and they seem to think he's not really that great defensively. He probably gets away with that in Bayerns system, but how would it pan out if he was only in there with Carrick?
Serious question though, is he a better option than the likes of Gundogan/Koke etc? I know he's very good technically, though I've never rated him as highly as some on here. It's just the other side of the game that I'm wondering about. I've spoke with people that watch Bayern quite a bit and they seem to think he's not really that great defensively. He probably gets away with that in Bayerns system, but how would it pan out if he was only in there with Carrick?
I know it's impossible to call right, but who do you think you'll sign?
Well it's time we moved on from our over-reliance on Carrick anyway. We shouldn't be looking at players who can play with him but who to build our future midfield on.
Carrick shouldn't be starting for us so its not really an issue. He's like the replacement for Scholes basically, and a damn good one at that. We'll need to buy a defensive midfielder next to him regardless, and we seem like we will with Carvalho, so it'll work out.
There will seriously be something wrong with our team and management next season if they think Carrick is still good enough to be starting for us.
That's the thing though, no matter who we bring in, Carrick will still have a big part to play.
Carvalho is still only young so if it was him and Kroos brought in, I don't think Carvalho will always be first choice. I suppose there's Fellaini to consider too.
I still don't like the idea of one midfielder being relied on to cover the defence though. Not supporting an attacking quartet of Januzaj, Mata, Rooney and RVP, for example. In my opinion someone with good technical ability as well as work rate would be more suitable, such as Gundogan or Koke.
Carvalho is still only young so if it was him and Kroos brought in, I don't think Carvalho will always be first choice. I suppose there's Fellaini to consider too.
I still don't like the idea of one midfielder being relied on to cover the defence though. Not supporting an attacking quartet of Januzaj, Mata, Rooney and RVP, for example. In my opinion someone with good technical ability as well as work rate would be more suitable, such as Gundogan or Koke.
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