Unfortunately for the Germans, they're managed by Low and they meet Brazil in the semis.
They'll peak in 2016
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Unfortunately for the Germans, they're managed by Low and they meet Brazil in the semis.
They'll peak in 2016
Do yer own research for God sake man, i've been busting my chops lookin at every website imaginable to find out whats goin on, wish there was one that could do it for me....
Here you go you lazy bastid
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier League/Manchester United?search=&type=&searchheadlines=&Page=2
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I'm working!
Probably?
Dont see the point puttin all our eggs in one unrealistic basket & then panic-buying at the last minute like we did in the summer - abeit, Fellaini was part of the offer for Baines. We need realistic targets concentrated on & do the real grafting from now to the summer. Improve the squad to get 4th is the main concern atm.
No harm tryin for bigger fish - i'm all on for us spunking hundreds of mills on players every window, but how many bids have we even put in for these fish this window? Shaws the only one, apart from Mata thats been reported & even then, other reports are that we plan to do so - rather than have already done so!
The Pogba situation really has bitten us on the arse. Thats the type of player we need - and Vidal, Kroos, Reus, Ronnie & Shaw to name but a few - bring them all
The point I'm making is that targetting the very top bracket of players is not "unrealistic". The fact of the matter is that United are a very attractive option for a lot of players. The best player want to come to abig club, on big wages - and want to believe that the club will be competative. The key to that is spending money and buying other very good players. I see no reason why the best players wont want to join.
The PL is arguably the biggest league in the world in terms of exposure, and United will pay big wages in comparison to a lot of other European sides. Vidal - as an example is at a club who will probably sell him at the right price (judging on past history) and we could improve his wages significantly.
Evdiently Moyes believes that he can go and get better players in the summer. Cabaye would be an improvement - but for me wont be the decisive factor in making the top 4. I can therefore see the sense in waiting, rather than bringing in a player who may prove to be top 4 materiel now, instead of wating till the summer and bringing in real proven quality. Its not just about improvement - its about buying players good enough to fulfil Moyes and the clubs ambitions.
All well and good - but why is a £20 million pound player going to move to a cluub to sit on the bench next year, especially if he can go to a top European Side in his home country?
It seems Moyes wants more than one midfield player anyway if you believe the reports, and has the money to get them. SO hopefully things will improve massively in the summer. We also have Powell to come back.
Because that is the way with top clubs. If he wants guaranteed football, he can stay at Newcastle. Typically, the subs bench at Barca, Bayern etc are not crap/average players. And this doesn't stop them from attracting good players. If we want to match those clubs, we should think similarly, instead of with this 'we are not entitled to more than one good midfielder' sort of view.
The truth is, in any given game, I'd guess the first midfielder off the bench for Bayern is probably as good as Cabaye. For Barcelona it may well be Fabregas or Iniesta. That said, I doubt Fabregas or Iniesta would rather be at Newcastle.
Powell is a good shout, although I suspect if we want him to play centre-midfield with us he could do with a Premier League loan in that position.
Perhaps that is where the club want to be - but we need to bring in the top class players first - before we then start looking at sqaud players. While the club has money to spend, I suspect that money is earmarked for first choice, hopefully top class players.
Very true, can't argue with that.
Hongstein on the Kroos situation (among other things)
http://www.oneworldsports.com/stories/field-getting-testy-bayern-munich
http://www.oneworldsports.com/stories/field-getting-testy-bayern-munich
Huge admirer of him.
I don't think he's what we need though unless we retire Carrick or have him come off the bench.
I don't think he's what we need though unless we retire Carrick or have him come off the bench.
Or perhaps not make Carrick start another 100 games per season? I get the partner to Carrick is most important, but at 31 while playing a ridiculous amount of the previous 5 seasons, wouldn't be crazy to see him burned out..
I would become extremely humble if we actually signed a player like Toni Kroos.
A signing like that is so far off the radar that I don't even vaste the slightest of energy thinking about it. It's science fiction to me.
A signing like that is so far off the radar that I don't even vaste the slightest of energy thinking about it. It's science fiction to me.
Unless the player is unfathomably alienated like Mata was at Chelsea, we have zero chance of signing him. Which player in their right mind would swap working under Guardiola in the current Bayern team to working under Moyes in the current Manchester United team? Please, let's be realistic.
Think Bayern will give him what he wants in terms of wages. They don't let go of players they want to keep. I also think his first preference is to extend at Bayern. Leaving arguably the strongest team in Europe under Guardiola for a stuttering United under Moyes? It's also not like he's not getting minutes there. He's playing almost every game.
Moneymoneymoney, simple as that.
That's the most likely situation - same goes for most players at any other top club. Hope is that maybe he isn't their top priority and they don't make him feel as loved as he thinks he should be. From the Honigstein article - it seems like Bayern will play a bit of hardball, especially seeing they do have so many options.
Exactly. It also directly corellated whether the player feels appreciated or not. Also he may wanted to prove he can be the top dog, which he'll probably wont get to be if all Bayern midfielders are healthy. Schweinsteiger is 27/28, Martinez is 24?, and there's Thiago.
At United he'll be playing at a club of similar status and will be given the reign to do whatever he wants in our midfield.
Bayern are pressuring him to take less money, I would love it if we can at least call their bluff
I'm afraid so. If not, I'd be extremely surprised. And very happily so. We all know he's class.
I've got to admit though, in the last few days I've had like 5% belief in these rumours.
Literally all of them. And I mean Ribery, Kroos, Alaba, Robben, Goetze. All of them.
If they were being paid £40k per week at Bayern.
You could have argued the same thing for the prick Hazard when he picked Di Matteo over Alex Ferguson. That's where the name and the brand of the club come into play. We have moyes as our coach but we still have our name and we still have a lot of respect in the footballing world. Also money plays a big part in these discussions. They have a 15 year period to earn money and they have to try and make the most of it.
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I have a little more belief in this specific transfer than 5%. Maybe 20% if I have to put a number in. What I like about this rumor is the fact that we are looking to pry top-class players who are facing one type of situation or another (Mata unhappy at Chelsea, Kroos contract stall, etc). Like a tower game, we poke at various blocks to see which ones are loose. All we need is the contract talk to break down at Bayern and we'll turn up like a knight
Or maybe it'll go Fabregas way, we're being used for contract negotiation.
http://bcove.me/h0213uuf Sweet jesus... #1 goal is just.. wow
Vidal - Kroos
Mata - Rooney - Januzaj
RVP
Mata - Rooney - Januzaj
RVP
That's a Champions League winning team right there
A decent defence helps too, mind.Vidal - Kroos
Mata - Rooney - Januzaj
RVP
That's a Champions League winning team right there
I doubt they will give him the same money like Ribery, Goetze, Schweinsteiger or Robben
We (or Chelsea) will give him that
We should do a Bayern and just announce it now for the end of the season if we get him. It is pretty disrespectful to Dortmund how they sign the best players from them then announce it like half way through the season. I just don't think it is very professional.
In regards to Kroos...I can't think of a more perfect signing. A complete midfield player which would take our team to another level. I just can't see it happening. German players never let their own leave. Especially someone as important to the national team than he is. The Bayern fans would not allow it.
A muppet's dream
In regards to Kroos...I can't think of a more perfect signing. A complete midfield player which would take our team to another level. I just can't see it happening. German players never let their own leave. Especially someone as important to the national team than he is. The Bayern fans would not allow it.
A muppet's dream
If Moyes (and the Equalizer) manage to snare Kroos and Vidal, it'd be amazing. Imagine those two in CM (sorry Carrick and Fletcher!)
Offer him a solid one-third more pay than Bayern and he will likely give it serious thought.
The Bayern fans wouldn't "allow" Neuer to sign - they dissed him big time when Schalke played Bayern. Bet they love him now...
Nah that's a classic United "you score 5, we'll score 6" team.
Do Bayern still hate us from the Hargreaves saga? I remember them being quite peeved at the time.
Why would they? We took the English patient for quite a hefty fee.
In hindsight yeah, but at the time they were a bit cranky with our pursuit.
expect this to pick up tonight on twitter rumours
You know that he's playing right now for Bayern and that Schweinsteiger, Martinez, Ribery and Robben are all injured?
Why?
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