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Guardiola's Tweeted comments (if they are his comments) sound like he's inviting bids.
And he will no doubt get them. This will be another Hazard all over.
 
I don't know why but I'm starting to think this is going to happen in the summer.
 
I wonder if SAF might get involved in negotiations, seeing as he's friendly with Pep?
 
Well if they decide to sell him in the summer with only one year left in his contract, then £25m sounds reasonable.
 
I wonder if SAF might get involved in negotiations, seeing as he's friendly with Pep?

I thought the same of the Mata deal given his seemingly positive relationship with Mourinho. Then there was the picture of Fergie meeting Roman at the Chelsea game. Not sure if that was an old pic or not.
 
I was referring to this comment - "I just hope we're not tryin for players that we dont have a prayer in signing". The club, can and are right to target the very best.

As it stands, Cabaye is probably better than Cleverly - but I'd suggest its likely that the club want players of an even better standard. If what we have won't get us into the top 4, then I dont see that Cabeye would be the difference maker. No point signing a player for £20 million and £80k a week wages and then having him sat on the bench in 6 months if and when a first choice comes in.

Hehe.

He's twice the player.
 
We spend all our time chasing someone who signs a contract at Munich? Exactly like Thiago

I would like to think Moyes did his homework in Germany last week. Met with the lad's agent, sounded him out:

"Will Bayern accept a cheeky bid now?"

"Is your boy interested in a move to OT?"

"Waste somebody else's time because I had this shite last summer."
 
ESPN running the story now.

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1695477/guardiola-leaves-door-open-kroos-exit?cc=5901

Bayern Munich coach Pep Guardiola has suggested that Toni Kroos could yet leave the club, amid reported interest from Manchester United.

Kroos, 24, is under contract until 2015 but the Germany international has, so far, not reached agreement on an extension despite negotiations in recent weeks.

The midfielder played an important role under Jupp Heynckes last season as Bayern won the Treble of Champions League, Bundesliga and DFB-Pokal, and has been one of the few true regulars under new Guardiola. He has featured in all but one of the club's competitive games this season.

"He is an important player," Guardiola said ahead of Bayern’s game at Stuttgart. "But it can go fast in football. Here today, there tomorrow."

The Germany international has been linked with a switch to Old Trafford, following David Moyes’ visit to Borussia Park on Friday to watch Bayern’s 2-0 win against Moenchengladbach.

The United manager was spotted at the match with Sascha Breese, who is the man responsible for "international contacts" at Sports Total, Kroos’ agents.

Volker Struth, Kroos’ main agent, is reported to have told kicker that the current contract offer on the table is unacceptable and no further negotiations are currently scheduled. It means Bayern could choose to cash in now before the player moves into the final year of his agreement.

"I can’t rule out anything," Toni Kroos told kicker, when questioned if he could go into the World Cup without prolonging his Bayern deal. "No talks are planned in the near future. I am fully focused on the Rueckrunde [second part of the Bundesliga season] now."
 
"I can’t rule out anything," Toni Kroos told kicker, when questioned if he could go into the World Cup without prolonging his Bayern deal. "No talks are planned in the near future. I am fully focused on the Rueckrunde [second part of the Bundesliga season] now."

Couldn't he be fully focused on Stoke away instead...?
 
I thought the same of the Mata deal given his seemingly positive relationship with Mourinho. Then there was the picture of Fergie meeting Roman at the Chelsea game. Not sure if that was an old pic or not.

It was recent, because Woody was there too.

I can see him moving if Bayern refuse to put him on the same earnings as the likes of Schweinsteiger and Lahm. He is an incredibly gifted player, and isn't even close to his prime. The fact that a player 3 years younger than him is earning £200k a week, and they may not want to give him £50k less than that, loyalty can only stretch so far.

Along comes us, knights in shining armour to offer that deal. £25 million for him is just outrageous if it happens, and very well could if his contract has 18 months left.
 
:lol: I loved that show. Unfortunately, I think Jan Michael Vincent handled our summer transfer business...

Me too man. It, the A-Team & Street-hawk to name but a few, were all part of my day-dreaming growing up...

I heard Peter Kenyon got plastic surgery to look like Woodward - thats why it all went tits up man. They found Woody bound & locked in a shed on the beach at Scarborough...
 
Must have player if available and Bayern looks really overloaded in midfield.

He may be enough to add some of the Scholes factor to United and by that it may be even more crucial signing than Mata.
 
Hehe.

He's twice the player.

Maybe he is - but he isn't, in my opinion, going to sweep all before him and be the differnece between top 4, and not.

We urgently need to address issues in midfield - but there's a difference between that and knee-kerk signings. There are a good number of midfielders better than Cleverly, doesnt mean we should go out and buy them.

As it is I like Cabaye as a player, but it looks like we're going for bigger and better - and if that means waiting until the summer I see no problem in that. The club needs to look long termat where it wants to be. If we want to buy player that are possibly not top 4 quality, and hope to make the top 4 year on year then fair enough - but it looks like Moyes is setting his sights higher and wants the very best.
 
Me too man. It, the A-Team & Street-hawk to name but a few, were all part of my day-dreaming growing up...

I heard Peter Kenyon got plastic surgery to look like Woodward - thats why it all went tits up man. They found Woody bound & locked in a shed on the beach at Scarborough...

:lol:
 
I was referring to this comment - "I just hope we're not tryin for players that we dont have a prayer in signing". The club, can and are right to target the very best.

As it stands, Cabaye is probably better than Cleverly - but I'd suggest its likely that the club want players of an even better standard. If what we have won't get us into the top 4, then I dont see that Cabeye would be the difference maker. No point signing a player for £20 million and £80k a week wages and then having him sat on the bench in 6 months if and when a first choice comes in.

Probably? :lol:

Dont see the point puttin all our eggs in one unrealistic basket & then panic-buying at the last minute like we did in the summer - abeit, Fellaini was part of the offer for Baines. We need realistic targets concentrated on & do the real grafting from now to the summer. Improve the squad to get 4th is the main concern atm.

No harm tryin for bigger fish - i'm all on for us spunking hundreds of mills on players every window, but how many bids have we even put in for these fish this window? Shaws the only one, apart from Mata thats been reported & even then, other reports are that we plan to do so - rather than have already done so!

The Pogba situation really has bitten us on the arse. Thats the type of player we need - and Vidal, Kroos, Reus, Ronnie & Shaw to name but a few - bring them all :drool:
 
Maybe he is - but he isn't, in my opinion, going to sweep all before him and be the differnece between top 4, and not.

We urgently need to address issues in midfield - but there's a difference between that and knee-kerk signings. There are a good number of midfielders better than Cleverly, doesnt mean we should go out and buy them.

As it is I like Cabaye as a player, but it looks like we're going for bigger and better - and if that means waiting until the summer I see no problem in that. The club needs to look long termat where it wants to be. If we want to buy player that are possibly not top 4 quality, and hope to make the top 4 year on year then fair enough - but it looks like Moyes is setting his sights higher and wants the very best.

I agree to an extent. I think We should go out and buy a top class midfielder. However, I also think we should sell Cleverley and someone like Cabaye should be our Cleverley. Therefore, I wouldn't be adverse to us signing him, so long as said world class midfielder was also purchased.
 
We need to learn from the summer, if the 25m bid is to be believed then that seems a bit of a low bid for Kroos. For Bayern to even consider I'd expect 30+ just to get them to the table.

Anyhoo - hope we just go for it while the chance is there. Once the window closes Bayern will have a better chance of tying him down.
 
We need to learn from the summer, if the 25m bid is to be believed then that seems a bit of a low bid for Kroos. For Bayern to even consider I'd expect 30+ just to get them to the table.

Anyhoo - hope we just go for it while the chance is there. Once the window closes Bayern will have a better chance of tying him down.
He is not coming now. In the summer with less than 12 months left on his contract, I think £25m is more than enough. We got RVP for £24m.
 
At the end of the day Whether he has 1 year left or 10 years, if we mean business we need to hit the ground running and just overpay if necessary.

Get somebody like Kroos and that starts turning heads. He could be so valuable to our play just like Mata.
 
He is not coming now. In the summer with less than 12 months left on his contract, I think £25m is more than enough. We got RVP for £24m.

Difference in age between the two. We bought Young for 17 with a year left, we paid 27 for Fellaini when we could have paid 23. We just paid 37 for Mata. Bayern will probably play a lot harder ball and not to mention there will probably be a host of other clubs willing to pay more for a player of his talent.

I just don't think 25 is going to be enough even in the summer, definitely not enough if we've bid for him this window.
 
Difference in age between the two. We bought Young for 17 with a year left, we paid 27 for Fellaini when we could have paid 23. We just paid 37 for Mata. Bayern will probably play a lot harder ball and not to mention there will probably be a host of other clubs willing to pay more for a player of his talent.

I just don't think 25 is going to be enough even in the summer, definitely not enough if we've bid for him this window.
True there will be other clubs in contention for his signature but Young is different because he is English and moved within the league which means you overpay. Fellaini and Mata were not in the last year of their contracts. Fellaini had a release clause of around £22-23m. We could have got him for that but we fecked up. That has nothing to do with the Kroos situation.
 
@RDCR07 - exactly my point, situations are different. Kroos situation is quite different from the RVP one you compared to originally. RVP wanted to move on to win trophies, certainly not the case with Kroos. Only similarity is 1 year left on his contract.

Kroos age coupled with his quality will make his asking price be quite a bit higher than 25m - but, that's my opinion.
 
Which basically makes it £30+m now or wait to pay £25m but with a big risk that he signs a new contract and stays. No brainer.
Who says he is going to sign a new contract with us? He is not moving in the winter and doesnt even want to talk about it. Also if he signs a contract with us NOW, he is going to move NOW. He aint going to sign and stay with Bayern for the next 6 months.
 
Anyone here watch him on a very regular basis? I've probably only watched him 8-10 times and just the once live, but I'm still not sure what kind of player he is. He seems to have the passing and shooting attributes of a more advanced player but I've only seen him play a deeper role. Great on the ball but just seems to amble about when he's off it and doesn't seem like the greatest tackler either.

Can he... play in a 2 man midfield?
 
Anyone here watch him on a very regular basis? I've probably only watched him 8-10 times and just the once live, but I'm still not sure what kind of player he is. He seems to have the passing and shooting attributes of a more advanced player but I've only seen him play a deeper role. Great on the ball but just seems to amble about when he's off it and doesn't seem like the greatest tackler either.

Can he... play in a 2 man midfield?

:lol:

"Can he play in a one-man mid-field"? is the question, cos we dont have any midfielders available. I hear Remi Moses is still workin out - i'll twat him on Twatter & see what he says???!
 
Anyone here watch him on a very regular basis? I've probably only watched him 8-10 times and just the once live, but I'm still not sure what kind of player he is. He seems to have the passing and shooting attributes of a more advanced player but I've only seen him play a deeper role. Great on the ball but just seems to amble about when he's off it and doesn't seem like the greatest tackler either.

Can he... play in a 2 man midfield?
He can pretty much play anywhere centrally. If we're talking 4-4-2, then yes, he could play CM. If we're talking 4-2-3-1, then he could play in the 2 or the 3....though I'd say that the 2 would be his most useful and comfortable spot.

He's described as "The complete midfielder". Basically, think Paul Scholes in lederhosen and you're pretty close.
 
He can pretty much play anywhere centrally. If we're talking 4-4-2, then yes, he could play CM. If we're talking 4-2-3-1, then he could play in the 2 or the 3....though I'd say that the 2 would be his most useful and comfortable spot.

He's described as "The complete midfielder". Basically, think Paul Scholes in lederhosen and you're pretty close.
Well that sounds fecking good!
 
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