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Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)
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Poor fecker rotting in the Reserves on 30k/week. Poor Tom... Shopping at tesco's tomorrow.
Probably scared Keane would shout at him or something.
Sad that someone his age would turn down first team football and a chance to get his career back on track.
If he wants to stay to fight for his United career fine.
But he has to fight, he gets into the team on merit not because he's here and 'needs games'.
And if in a years time he's still useless then he's gone. No bullshit contract extension because 'he adds to the squad'.
But he has to fight, he gets into the team on merit not because he's here and 'needs games'.
And if in a years time he's still useless then he's gone. No bullshit contract extension because 'he adds to the squad'.
Hope he never sees the field for us ever again, and that's including reserves. Greedy cnut.
He's gonna feel a bit awkward in training tomorrow!
Yea playing in a United team laced with top players, those five yard lay offs are going to feel a tad inadequate.
Signing-on fee or not, who is going to pay him 80K a week when his contract runs out?
Unless he reckons he can win over LVG, it's a stupid or risky move, considering now is a great time to stake a place in the international team.
Unless he reckons he can win over LVG, it's a stupid or risky move, considering now is a great time to stake a place in the international team.
I had forgotten about that. If it turns out that TC23 chose to stick it out with next to no football until the summer because of money, it shows a shocking lack of ambition on his part. Two or three midfield slots in the England team are up for grabs.
Why? It'll be a great day for everyone to showcase their greatest trait.
Falcao can show off his bicycle kicks
Di Maria can display his running ability
Rooney can pop off some class free kicks
Cleverley can... Pass it sideways and make a run into unavailable space.
By all accounts we pay him 30 k per week, if he now spends the next 12 months in the reserves then he will lucky to get near that at another club, the only hope for him is a January move.
Poor old Tom, just hope he doesn't read twitter, or this forum for a while.
I wanted him gone and him staying just makes it awkward. It's not as if he came out saying he wants to fight for his club. He went to Villa, asked for high wages and was rejected. Went to Everton, and they didn't feel as if he was worth the transfer fee asked.
It's absolute bollocks and it's annoying that he's still with us. He was clearly told that he isn't part of our plans, so he prefers a good wage rather than trying to make something of his plateaued career.
No respect for him right now. Hopefully we won't be forced to using him until January.
It's absolute bollocks and it's annoying that he's still with us. He was clearly told that he isn't part of our plans, so he prefers a good wage rather than trying to make something of his plateaued career.
No respect for him right now. Hopefully we won't be forced to using him until January.
Bless him, he actually responded to someone on twitter regarding the TC23 concept, and it was something he created when he was injured and had nothing to do! The players with the strongest mentalities either block out these criticisms or use them as a strength. Sadly Tom hasn't really done this over the years and has seemed to regress into his shell. He showed such promise when he broke into the first team too, which is a shame.
The old open both hands, scream for the ball, receive and pop it back move, quite clear why he's still here really. Hardly his fault in the grand scheme of things but he's done himself no favours hanging about, the lack of trust in his own ability is clear on field and with his decision to stay rather than go elsewhere for less and show why he's worth more.
It is a shame, but you would have thought he would have pushed things through today for his own good, and to avoid the inevitable, if unnecessary lash back from united fans.
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I wonder if Tom realizes the backlash he's going to get from this... I kinda feel sorry for him in a way
We're making an example of him. Sit him on the reserve bench for a year (or at least until next January) and the next player in that position thinks twice.
I don't think he cares.. Nor should he.
Maybe he didn't want to play for Villa. His decision.
He's being unrealistic if he thinks Villa or Everton can afford to pay him 80k a week. The fans of those teams are not crying though. Villa fans are actually celebrating not signing him. Cleverley is deluded. He should've accepted a loan or a perm move on the same wages he makes at United, 35k a week, and worked on having a good spell in the team and earning that pay rise he wants. I dont feel sorry for him.
So does he earn 35k a week at United, and demanded 80k a week at Villa or Everton? Is he for real? Absolute mug.
I obviously never rated him as a player but he's also gone way down in my estimations as a person, too. He can't just demand over double his current wage when he hasn't shown he's earnt it what so ever. He should be happy that two decent Premier League sides wanted to take him on!
Louis Van Gaal has said all along that it is the players decision to whether or not they want to be at United. Maybe he feels that he can still make an impact this season. He doesn't have to sign for another team if he doesn't feel like it is suitable for him, but history shows it is very rare for a player to work them way back into first team plans when they are deemed surplus. He always has the chance to still leave this window if he wants to ply his trade in either Finland or Romania that is.
Is he still here?!?
Yep. He was supposed to sign an extension under Moyes in 2013 to bump him up to 70k but for some reason it didn't happen. I guess United hesitated.
Hope he doesn't get much game time this season and he finally ship him out in Jan.
He might want to hang on til 15' when his contract ends and leave on a free. He'll get a better sign on bonus and more teams to choose from if this happens. Disgusting.
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Brought it upon himself really. Had the chance to go to Villa, turned them down right when he heard Everton were interested.
Brought it upon himself really. Had the chance to go to Villa, turned them down right when he heard Everton were interested.Prisoners on life terms have higher ambitions than this one.
Nice to see someone not just jumping on the bandwagon. Cleverley wants to move to Everton rather than Villa which collapses because we refuse to give him a loan. Not sure how that results in more abuse for Cleverley.
The Ducker tweet makes sense. He's going to get slaughtered without people really knowing the entire truth on why he didn't leave today, simply because they wanted him to leave today.
Honestly, if it was between going to Villa now or waiting for Everton why we he not wait for Everton? He'll be training with world class players and a world class manager in the mean time, there are worse situations for a player.
Though if it all was about wages he definitely deserves some of the abuse he'll likely get.
Honestly, if it was between going to Villa now or waiting for Everton why we he not wait for Everton? He'll be training with world class players and a world class manager in the mean time, there are worse situations for a player.
Though if it all was about wages he definitely deserves some of the abuse he'll likely get.
Why would Everton sign him in Jan? They can just sign a pre-contract and get him for free in the next window. Those greedy bastard, they sold Fellaini for twenty fecking seven million pound, give some back.
This is how I see it.
He'll have no problems getting offers, even if he doesn't move to Everton in January. He'll be free be then, so no problems at all.
People just don't like him. But I genuinely don't think he actually thought he'd be moving away just a few months ago. So he wasn't going to rush into the first offer, especially not to a club he doesn't want to play for.
He'll almost certainly move to Everton within the next year. They're looking positive going forward, and the manager rates him highly, So fair enough if he doesn't want to go to Aston Villa.
People often forget how complex transfers are. And United just want the cash for him; they aren't necessarily going to look out for his best interests. So he needs to look after himself.
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The title.From all the players we sold today. Lawrence and Welbeck. Why are we still keeping this guy instead of keeping the two we just sold? Positive thing that his wages is very low compare to Anderson.
Still think that Tom should focus on getting more games and try to breakthrough for England squad. He should have just move to Everton straight away and I think it's the best club for him at the moment.
From all the players we sold today. Lawrence and Welbeck. Why are we still keeping this guy instead of keeping the two we just sold? Positive thing that his wages is very low compare to Anderson.
Still think that Tom should focus on getting more games and try to breakthrough for England squad. He should have just move to Everton straight away and I think it's the best club for him at the moment.
Unless they were going to throw him in a car boot or release him, what else could they do?
Everton want him, but he isn't/wasn't their biggest priority. They've pretty much spent all of this year's (and probably half of next year's) budget on a striker. They couldn't afford Cleverley.
Apparently we only wanted to sell, so even a loan there was out of the question -which frankly makes no sense, unless we're banking on Everton finding the money for him by the end of January. He may end up going there on loan in January, when they have a few injuries.
I don't blame him for waiting. Why join Aston Villa, when the manager of a better team rates you highly?
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Nothing, we can't do anything thanks to him asking high wages to Villa and Everton. The only thing we can do is try to convince him that you want games or no. If he wants more games then the best choice is to leave. This is probably what Sir Alex did on Gibson.
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