Cleverley trying to orchestrate a move to Everton who just wanted to drive the price down instead of paying an honest fee . Shameful behaviour by Cleverley and Everton.
Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)
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Apparently negotiations weren't any further forward then when they first started. It just kept going sidewards.
It's not selfish, it's just not self-sacrificing. If it were all about money I'd understand the hysterics but he can land himself in a better situation all round by waiting.
It can't be about the money, he can't be on more than £40k a week at United and Villa would easily be able to match that or at least offer close to that plus he'd get a 4-year deal most likely as opposed to the final year he has on his United deal. Perhaps he didn't want to move to Villa at all or he wants to stay a year to pocket signing on fee he is bound to get next year.
So he'd rather sit around for a year then play week in, week out? I'm struggling to see what better situation he's landing himself in at all.
Aye there is, he's quite blatantly valuing a bigger signing on fee over his football career to the extent that he's willing to piss away a year of football in order to secure it. I'm not sure how that's a good attitude for a young player. It's shocking.
If he stays in the reserves for a year then he'll stall even more as a footballer when he should be tying to play regularly to get his flailing career back on track. Show a bit of commitment for goodness sake.
He can also kiss goodbye to any hope of an England career, which is a shame given the retirement of many older players and the complete revamping of the team. A little bit of application and it could be Cleverley getting a call up instead of Fabian Delph and Jack Colback.
The thread title change.
30k here, wanted 80 at Villa.
at thread title.The better situation is Everton rather than Villa. The only way is down. If he goes to Villa it's hard to imagine a bigger club ever coming in for him no matter how he plays, he already has the 'failed at the highest level' tag. A club like Everton is the best he can hope for, so I don't agree that it shows a lack of ambition. Worth waiting a year in my opinion.
Villa were offering him similar wages and regular football. He asked for double that. Then drove to Everton apparently after Villa rejected.
Why couldn't Everton agree to loan him for a year and then sign him on a free next year?
NVM just seen that we only wanted to sell him.
Greedy bugger....despite already being a multi millionaire...he'd prefer a season with the reserves so that he can get the sign on fee in a year....disgraceful anderson level behaviour
where did you get the 80k from?30k here, wanted 80 at Villa.
Loving the name Cinawhat an absolute moron. who does he think he is, He's no Anderson.
Reports were saying Everton wanted the loan, we wanted a permanent deal. Everton know they can get him next year I imagine.
Pat Murphy from the BBC said.
Yeah, you can understand why both clubs wouldn't agree but if I was Cleverley I'd be choosing Villa, no guarantee to start week in, week out at Everton either.
It's obvious what happened here. We had the same thing when we sold the likes of Ruud.
We touted Clev around, Clev deliberately screwed up those deals to leave his preferred option, Everton, the only dog in the race.
Everton and Cleverley thought United would be so desperate to sell we'd let Clev go to Goodison on the cheap.
They got it wrong.
Now Clev has been left in limbo. Everton can't afford him, United and willing to let him stew even if it means losing him for nowt.
We touted Clev around, Clev deliberately screwed up those deals to leave his preferred option, Everton, the only dog in the race.
Everton and Cleverley thought United would be so desperate to sell we'd let Clev go to Goodison on the cheap.
They got it wrong.
Now Clev has been left in limbo. Everton can't afford him, United and willing to let him stew even if it means losing him for nowt.
Tbf think Clev is playing a somewhat risky game if it's down to him. Bar injuries there's no reason for us to play him unless he really gets his head down and shines in training. Whilst he'll likely be able to push for a higher wage being a free player next season a year without football, given where he already is could be pretty detrimental for him. Plus if others step up/shine at Everton they might not want him and certainly might not want to give him big money (for them).
I guess the Everton deal was not attractive in any way to United...so that was that!
As for Villa/Hull, i wouldn't blame Cleverly for not jumping at the chance to play for those teams because it would realistically kill his international career dead! the second he signed the contract.
So the next stage would be for Cleverly to sign a contract with Everton/Spurs when his contract ends.
It is not the best solution for United but when they are signing 55-60 million pound players i think they will cope without a few million from Cleverly's sale.
As for Villa/Hull, i wouldn't blame Cleverly for not jumping at the chance to play for those teams because it would realistically kill his international career dead! the second he signed the contract.
So the next stage would be for Cleverly to sign a contract with Everton/Spurs when his contract ends.
It is not the best solution for United but when they are signing 55-60 million pound players i think they will cope without a few million from Cleverly's sale.
won't be surprised if he leaves in January for a smaller fee - around 2m.
What?
Delph plays for Villa and got in the squad. Colback is in the squad ffs. There's not many good English CMs.
Sitting in the reserves will kill his England career dead. And it's dead anyway, what Cleverley needs to do is try and revive it by playing regular first team football rather than focusing on securing the biggest contract possible.
And Fabian Delph just got a call up to England playing for Villa.
Be good to get some cash for him. Guess it'll depend on United being willing to deal, and Everton not wanting to wait til next summer.
I don't get Everton, for years they spend a pittance on players then all of a sudden find £28m for Lukaku, it has probably bankrupted them, well that and Etoo's wages.
IF the rumours are true about him rejecting Villa, demanding 80k, driving to Everton etc - then I have absolutely no sympathy if Cleverley rots in the reserves for a year.
LVG has obviously told Tom that he isnt going to be getting many games, Cleverley has decided it would be in his best interests to leave. At this point fine, no problem for any party, best result all round etc. If he has then priced himself out of moves etc to try to get into his preferred destination, at the risk of denying the club from making any money out of his sale - that is selfish behaviour and like I said, would have no problems seeing him rot. See if Everton still want him next summer if he has gone a year without any first team football shall we?
Of course, there is always the chance that these rumours are BS, so until we have some fairly reliable confirmation of the chain of events (which I doubt we will get), who knows?
LVG has obviously told Tom that he isnt going to be getting many games, Cleverley has decided it would be in his best interests to leave. At this point fine, no problem for any party, best result all round etc. If he has then priced himself out of moves etc to try to get into his preferred destination, at the risk of denying the club from making any money out of his sale - that is selfish behaviour and like I said, would have no problems seeing him rot. See if Everton still want him next summer if he has gone a year without any first team football shall we?
Of course, there is always the chance that these rumours are BS, so until we have some fairly reliable confirmation of the chain of events (which I doubt we will get), who knows?
Apparently he never went to Everton.
Still, weird that he couldn't agree something with Villa, but there you go.
Still, weird that he couldn't agree something with Villa, but there you go.
Everton are saying he was not not due there.
Wanting 80k a week is a disgrace, should of took the same has he was on here and got the football he so badly needs.
Wanting 80k a week is a disgrace, should of took the same has he was on here and got the football he so badly needs.
Who cares. Shouldn't take minutes away from reserve team players.
And hope we don't sell him for peanuts in Jan. Let him sit the year out and leave next summer.
And hope we don't sell him for peanuts in Jan. Let him sit the year out and leave next summer.
He wanted £80K from Villa
Seems like those ridiculous agent demands you get on FM aren't as unrealistic as we all thought.
Seems like those ridiculous agent demands you get on FM aren't as unrealistic as we all thought.
Aye, best approach right now.
It's a shame really because everyone has lost out in this. I suspect there was a real sense of who would blink first within both parties, but as a consequence of no body budging Cleverley gets no first team football at all and we get no transfer fee.
Who changed the thread title?
The funny thing is I wouldn't play him for our U21s. No point taking their game time. So he wouldn't get any minutes for me, but he's done it to himself.
The funny thing is I wouldn't play him for our U21s. No point taking their game time. So he wouldn't get any minutes for me, but he's done it to himself.
This is only ending one way, and that is with him signing a pre contract agreement in jan and leaving for nothing in the summer.
Why would we even bother to play him in the reserves? Surely we've got some young prospects who need to make the step up to reserve football and needing game time.
No competitive football at any level for the next year could ruin his career.
No competitive football at any level for the next year could ruin his career.
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