Good luck to him. I hope the move goes through and he can regain his form there.
Tom Cleverley | 2014/15 Performances (on loan at Aston Villa)
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How is it different if Welbeck wanted to leave the club? Why would you not be unhappy at him? I mean its not like he has scored 20 goals and assisted 15 these past two seasons and we still put him on the bench.
Tom's never going to fullfil his potential at United and he'll never be anything more than a squad player, similar to Ben Foster. The big stage is just too much for him.
I hope he does well at Villa though, for England's sake and just to piss everyone off.
I hope he does well at Villa though, for England's sake and just to piss everyone off.
I agree with you. He's gotta stick around surely. The moment we switch to a 4-3-3 permanently (its on the cards to happen soon IMO), Welbeck becomes a really really solid option to have.
We're not missing anything rather than potentially clogging up the squad to prevent other young midfielders moving up and getting their shot. We'll definitely be getting another midfielder so we do need to sell - Anderson doesn't count as he never plays anyway.
Well good luck to him - providing he does end up leaving. Has a bit of the Gibson saga about it, but he wasnt good enough for United and having him on the books makes very little sense given how little he seems to contribute.
I'd have been happy to hold onto him as backup since he's arguably a bit better than some of the dross like Anderson, but for that price it makes sense to sell. Not too gutted to see him going either if the deal goes through.
But his knee doesn't keep falling off
Interesting that this ends up being my first post in the main forum. I have to say that for a long time I was quite the Cleverley defender, especially the season before last. The fact of the matter was that in 2011/2012 United looked like a much better team when he was on the pitch. I even thought he would go on to make a meaningful contribution for England. Unfortunately, Cleverley has regressed most notably in confidence (can thank Kevin Davies for that among others) and that has been well documented on this forum.
I only wish him the best and shame it didn't work out. Cleverley is definitely better than some people make him out to be but there is no question that he will not succeed at United at this point. Hopefully he can get a fresh start, regain his confidence, and bring back his pass and move style.
I only wish him the best and shame it didn't work out. Cleverley is definitely better than some people make him out to be but there is no question that he will not succeed at United at this point. Hopefully he can get a fresh start, regain his confidence, and bring back his pass and move style.
No his constant injuries are always something new.
Sad to see him leave.
I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing the Davies tackle as a bad turning point for Cleverley. I'm not going to get all tinfoilhat saying that was certainly the moment, but something got knocked out of him there, it can't be denied.
I hope with all my heart he can shake the fear now, with a new start and with Keano to spur him on.
I'd agree that he was superb in the opening parts of the season, but later in the season I don't think he really made the team that much better, even if he was still decent. Hopefully he'll do well at Villa though and the club will be more to his level.
I'm hurt.....I'm bleeding
The handbags in here!Exactly, how exciting is that?!
Either that or more likely just numpties. Some stuff on here is embarrassing.
The passport mate, it's all in the passport. Young, England international.....£20m easily or we keep him.
No need to hold back. They are numpties
Now you know why they call me The Professor.
Cleverley needs to avoid Aston Villa like a plague. He has his faults, but Villa are the least ambitious club in the league.
Once it became apparent Rooney only did it for a pay rise I did not like it one bit. If Welbeck wants to leave, it's because he wants to play more football.
I agree with that statement. I think a lot of people can agree that the rot in Cleverley's career really started in the 2012/13 campaign.
Has anyone got any link or tweet from SSN about us actually accepting a bid?
He said he was the type of midfielder that LVG seems to like.
He left out the bit where his current level is midtable at best
I don't get it.
I'm actually laughing that a player, whom has shown time and time again that he's not good enough, with about a year left on his contract, is going for £9 million!
We bought Kagawa for 12 for God's sake
We bought Kagawa for 12 for God's sake
Aye, and he has been a huge disappointment.
Tbf, it was a great price at the time considering the prior seasons that Kagawa had at Dortmund. I genuinely thought he was a top 30 player at the time.
At the time, it was an absolute robbery
So did I which is why he has been a huge disappointment.
He had one year left on his contract and wanted to play for us. Dortmund had a reasonable deal.
£9 million? Nice. Absolutely must have someone lined-up to come in then.
Why are we selling him if we have no cover in that position? Our two best players there are already injured.
Yes, I know I don't rate him that highly but he's numbers in a position we cannot feck around with
Yes, I know I don't rate him that highly but he's numbers in a position we cannot feck around with
Welcome up. Personally I think Clev still has it in him to be a good player. However at this point, judged solely on merit, he can't really complain if he's sold. You're right, he's not as bad as people make out, but he's underwhelmed in the last 18 months, and crucially, he's been pretty poor in the short time that LVG has been here. Not a surprise that LVG has sold him based on what he's been able to see.
we never sell players for much.
Some are laughing that £9m sounds high, but you'd barely get a championship player for that.
Wasn't so long ago he was seen as the answer to our midfield problems and we were lamenting him being out for weeks.
However, definitely the time to go. He needs to go to a Villa, somewhere where his every move isn't obliterated by the fans and press.
Some are laughing that £9m sounds high, but you'd barely get a championship player for that.
Wasn't so long ago he was seen as the answer to our midfield problems and we were lamenting him being out for weeks.
However, definitely the time to go. He needs to go to a Villa, somewhere where his every move isn't obliterated by the fans and press.
No white text?
You are joking right?
If you look it in this aspect then his price tag is dead on.
Point is what was paid for Kagawa is irrelevant. McCormack cost £12m what does it matter?
Have you watched the kid play?
You can say he is young or inexperienced .... but is def. not average. This is the same kind of sentiment people were saying last year from Strootman.
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