Toby Alderweireld

RedSky said:
Toby Alderweireld
71.2 passes per game / 88.5% accuracy
12.2 long balls per game / 59.0% accuracy

Victor Lindelöf
49.7 passes per game / 89.2% accuracy
4.4 long balls per game / 47.7% accuracy

Phil Jones
41.9 passes per game / 92.6% accuracy
2.9 long balls per game / 75.9% accuracy

Chris Smalling
39.8 passes per game / 86.2% accuracy
4.0 long balls per game / 52.5% accuracy

If we're wanting to play a modern game of having players comfortable on the ball, Toby fits that. That's just his passing stats. His clean sheet stats dick all of our players by some distance. I think he'd have decent partnership with Lindelof and would be a no brainer on a free transfer.

The mean weakness with Alderweireld is his aerial ability which is pretty mediocre.
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Are those forward or back pass stats ?
 
So we are struggling to sign a central defender. And yet there is one potential at Spurs who we can get for a pittance in today's market, who is head and shoulders above anyone we currently have. Toby Alderweireld has a £22.5m release clause which expires on July 26 and has one year left on his current contract.
 
Ranchero said:
So we are struggling to sign a central defender. And yet there is one potential at Spurs who we can get for a pittance in today's market, who is head and shoulders above anyone we currently have. Toby Alderweireld has a £22.5m release clause which expires on July 26 and has one year left on his current contract.
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And what if he’s asking for £300k per week on a 5 year contract? Which is feasible considering he’s not been snapped up. That’s £78m by the way.

Clearly I’ve plucked those figures from my arse but it really shows that the transfer fee is only a small part of the story. On top of that I’m sure he would want a signing on fee and his agent will also want a chunky fee.

I’m not saying he’s not a good player, but cheap he certaintly is NOT!
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
And what if he’s asking for £300k per week on a 5 year contract? Which is feasible considering he’s not been snapped up. That’s £78m by the way.

Clearly I’ve plucked those figures from my arse but it really shows that the transfer fee is only a small part of the story. On top of that I’m sure he would want a signing on fee and his agent will also want a chunky fee.

I’m not saying he’s not a good player, but cheap he certaintly is NOT!
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This is the problem, also he has said a few times he wants to back to Ajax before he retires, it’s all very strange.
 
Ranchero said:
So we are struggling to sign a central defender. And yet there is one potential at Spurs who we can get for a pittance in today's market, who is head and shoulders above anyone we currently have. Toby Alderweireld has a £22.5m release clause which expires on July 26 and has one year left on his current contract.
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He would definitely want a 250k+ package. And at least a 3 year contract. It is his last big paycheck.
 
Ranchero said:
So we are struggling to sign a central defender. And yet there is one potential at Spurs who we can get for a pittance in today's market, who is head and shoulders above anyone we currently have. Toby Alderweireld has a £22.5m release clause which expires on July 26 and has one year left on his current contract.
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Problem is we want someone with good aerial ability to partner Lindelof. Toby doesn't seem to have that.
Also I find it strange that no other team in premiership is interested
 
dev1l said:
Problem is we want someone with good aerial ability to partner Lindelof. Toby doesn't seem to have that.
Also I find it strange that no other team in premiership is interested
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He is also clearly not the player he was 2 years ago and the decline over the past 2 seasons will probably accelerate from here on out. He wants a big payday and long term security to move and if we give it to him he could well end up being the defensive version of Sanchez in our squad.
 
Gandalf said:
He is also clearly not the player he was 2 years ago and the decline over the past 2 seasons will probably accelerate from here on out. He wants a big payday and long term security to move and if we give it to him he could well end up being the defensive version of Sanchez in our squad.
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I also have the impression that spurs want to ship him and Erikssen out.
Toby because he s past it and Erikssen because it s the best time to sell - Priceline
 
dev1l said:
I also have the impression that spurs want to ship him and Erikssen out.
Toby because he s past it and Erikssen because it s the best time to sell - Priceline
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There are rumours that Toby burnt his bridges basically agreeing to a deal then going back on it. Eriksen I think we would want to keep if possible but he seems set on Madrid.
 
Gandalf said:
He is also clearly not the player he was 2 years ago and the decline over the past 2 seasons will probably accelerate from here on out. He wants a big payday and long term security to move and if we give it to him he could well end up being the defensive version of Sanchez in our squad.
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100% agree with this post.
 
dev1l said:
I also have the impression that spurs want to ship him and Erikssen out.
Toby because he s past it and Erikssen because it s the best time to sell - Priceline
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I think we'd very much like to keep him, which is why we've offered him a very substantially improved contract. But apparently this is not enough for him. Fair enough - it's his choice.
 
His wage demands couldn't have been that much or at least that stubborn if Roma can afford it?
 
BlueHaze said:
I would rather have him in the team than Lindelöf.
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That’s pointless though. We’ve invested two years in Lindelöf and I’m confident he’ll be a top player for us this season. I expect him to emerge as a better player than Alderweireld, who’s on his way down.
 
Cliche Guevara said:
That’s pointless though. We’ve invested two years in Lindelöf and I’m confident he’ll be a top player for us this season. I expect him to emerge as a better player than Alderweireld, who’s on his way down.
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I was hoping that too but after 2 years here he hasn't impressed me at all except for a few games. Lindelöf is way too inconsistent in his performances to be a centre back at a team like United.
 
The links to Roma are credible, we have been linked with Zaniolo for a couple of windows and reports this morning have sparked up again. If he’s part of the deal plus cash their way his wages could be sorted out, why he’s choosing the move I have no idea.
 
Cliche Guevara said:
That’s pointless though. We’ve invested two years in Lindelöf and I’m confident he’ll be a top player for us this season. I expect him to emerge as a better player than Alderweireld, who’s on his way down.
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Lindelof isn't and won't be a better player than Toby. From his spell at Atletico, to Soton to Spurs he has shown that he is and will be levels above Lindelof
 
CLK_FPC said:
Lindelof isn't and won't be a better player than Toby. From his spell at Atletico, to Soton to Spurs he has shown that he is and will be levels above Lindelof
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The wont be part in your sentence is premature

Lindelof is 24 at the same age Toby couldnt get into the team where he was at Atletico
 
CLK_FPC said:
Lindelof isn't and won't be a better player than Toby. From his spell at Atletico, to Soton to Spurs he has shown that he is and will be levels above Lindelof
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Seriously his spell at Atletico? Where he made the grand sum of 12 La Liga appearances and was moved on after only 1 year?

Alderweireld was arguably the best defender in the PL I'll give you that but that but that was 3 or 4 years ago and that peak only lasted 1 or 2 seasons
 
Cassidy said:
The wont be part in your sentence is premature

Lindelof is 24 at the same age Toby couldnt get into the team where he was at Atletico
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Come on. At the time Atletico had the best defence in the world. He was never going to get ahead of Godin and Miranda.
 
charlenefan said:
Seriously his spell at Atletico? Where he made the grand sum of 12 La Liga appearances and was moved on after only 1 year?

Alderweireld was arguably the best defender in the PL I'll give you that but that but that was 3 or 4 years ago and that peak only lasted 1 or 2 seasons
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And why was he moved on?
 
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