Titanic tourist submersible missing | Sub's debris found - crew "have been lost"

It’s a very subjective experience in the same way somebody may love watching 22 people chasing a ball and others will never understand the appeal. Just because you don’t feel it doesn’t mean others don’t either.
Not everyone is chasing the ball, some people are attacking the space, that makes it so much better.
 
Always wonder if they had allowed Catholics to help build the Titanic would it have fared better.

All it needed was a little Padre Pio sticker on the side and I'm sure it would have been fine
 
that’s the most baffling thing to me. and suggests the person running it is a fecking idiot. just con the rich people into getting in to the sub, have people on the outside rock it about a bit, make whale noises and splash some water around for a couple of hours, then open the doors again. no need to actually go anywhere near the water.
Exactly my thoughts
 
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It looks like this novelty Red Bull can with a propeller, to be fair
 
Not everyone is chasing the ball, some people are attacking the space, that makes it so much better.

Yeah I've always hated that analogy. Only like two players are chasing the ball at any one time. The rest are moving about waiting for it to come to them.
 
Yeah I've always hated that analogy. Only like two players are chasing the ball at any one time. The rest are moving about waiting for it to come to them.

i’ve always preferred the analogy of “some players have the submarine xbox controller, some are just waiting their turn for a go on the submarine xbox controller.” though i think with tyler retiring, we’re less likely to hear such a cliche from the commentary box.
 
Wait, it was controlled by a modified ps3 controller?!
That bit isn’t surprising. US Navy submarines use xbox controllers. It’s easier for crew to adapt to them rather than older control panels since they’re raise on gaming controllers.
 
But it might not be. Almost all subs like this have safety measures whereby they would surface in the event of system failures.

There's really three options:
  1. There was structural failure and they imploded. This would be by a mile the preferable outcome as it would be instant, almost certainly faster than your brain could perceive.
  2. The structure is intact but they've lost power or had some other systems failures and they surfaced somewhere and are waiting to be found. If they're not found they'll end up running out of oxygen and will basically fall asleep and not wake up.
  3. The structure is intact but they've lost power or had some other systems failures but they didn't surface. In this situation running out of oxygen is not what will kill them, they will freeze to death in the dark before that happens.

Why will they freeze to death? The temperature of the water around them will be 0 degrees or up, so I see no reason why they would be freezing in there given the structure is still intact.
 
That bit isn’t surprising. US Navy submarines use xbox controllers. It’s easier for crew to adapt to them rather than older control panels since they’re raise on gaming controllers.
What now? I am pretty sure they don't move a submarine around with any sort of game controller like device. They can probably use it to control some external equipment on the sub or some unmanned mini subs.
 
that’s the most baffling thing to me. and suggests the person running it is a fecking idiot. just con the rich people into getting in to the sub, have people on the outside rock it about a bit, make whale noises and splash some water around for a couple of hours, then open the doors again. no need to actually go anywhere near the water.

Like when the fair comes to town and you have that thing that swings side to side. You could easily use that. Only one time my friend Jonesy got motion sickness and almost vomited, but an older man instructed him to breath in through his nose and out his mouth and he calmed down, so you’d have to have someone like him to help people who are about to vomit
 
What now? I am pretty sure they don't move a submarine around with any sort of game controller like device. They can probably use it to control some external equipment on the sub or some unmanned mini subs.
Ye I've seen it used for all sorts but not actual vehicles carrying humans (other than in test scenarios).
 
Like when the fair comes to town and you have that thing that swings side to side. You could easily use that. Only one time my friend Jonesy got motion sickness and almost vomited, but an older man instructed him to breath in through his nose and out his mouth and he calmed down, so you’d have to have someone like him to help people who are about to vomit

and then if you have someone there stopping people from vomiting, you probably need someone there to help people that want to vomit. it’s becoming an unmanageable nightmare. let’s just sack the whole thing off.
 
It 100% has this feature, doesn't mean it worked though.
Of course they’ll have a feature to resurface. I was speaking in jest at the journey of how it was designed. If it didn’t have a feature to automatically return to the surface that’s just pure criminal negligence.

Even if I was a billionaire, there is nothing exciting about getting in these capsules sat on the floor in a squatting position for 10-12 hours of the whole journey. That’s torture in itself!

Apparently mechanical problems and failures are very common with these submersibles. They apparently plan 5 a week and are lucky if one is successfully completed.
 
Imagine if they find it on a surface in a week or so with the CEO being the only survivor after killing the rest of the crew and claiming it was in the contract that in case of emergency the company has priority for oxygen.
 
If I was on board and knew my time was up I'd beat the owner sitting beside me to death.
 
Why will they freeze to death? The temperature of the water around them will be 0 degrees or up, so I see no reason why they would be freezing in there given the structure is still intact.
Probably "freeze" was an overstatement. The craft being surrounded by water at near freezing 1-2C is a lot different to air at the same temperature. I don't know how well insulated the craft is, but I struggle to see how the air inside the craft wouldn't very quickly equalize temperature wise. I'm assuming they don't have cold weather gear, so imagine sitting outside at 1C in light clothing.
 
Imagine if they find it on a surface in a week or so with the CEO being the only survivor after killing the rest of the crew and claiming it was in the contract that in case of emergency the company has priority for oxygen.
That would be the biggest tragedy. It returns to the surface but they still can’t get out because it has multiple bolts from the outside keeping them inside. It’s like being so close but yet so far. It reminds me of the Interstellar movie where he can see himself through the book shelf but can’t do anything to stop himself.
 
Probably "freeze" was an overstatement. The craft being surrounded by water at near freezing 1-2C is a lot different to air at the same temperature. I don't know how well insulated the craft is, but I struggle to see how the air inside the craft wouldn't very quickly equalize temperature wise. I'm assuming they don't have cold weather gear, so imagine sitting outside at 1C in light clothing.

Agreed. That would be highly uncomfortable, but would nowhere near kill you. So that is actually a scenario in which the passengers could survive.
 
and then if you have someone there stopping people from vomiting, you probably need someone there to help people that want to vomit. it’s becoming an unmanageable nightmare. let’s just sack the whole thing off.
For feck's sake. :lol:
 
Is it true one of the guys took his teenage son with him as well.

Surely it's enough you do something that stupid on your own but to drag your own teenage son into it as well is shocking
 
It's quite an interesting story, this. One small group of rich people's gawping underwater grief tourism has turned into a morbid adventure for the entire world to enjoy from the safety of their homes. Almost egalitarian of them.
 
There's no windows in the sub. They'd be watching it on monitors just like anyone could on dry land.
 
Is it true one of the guys took his teenage son with him as well.

Surely it's enough you do something that stupid on your own but to drag your own teenage son into it as well is shocking
A Pakistani business man, Shahzada Dawood is on board with his son, Sulaiman (who's 19).
 
I apologise for being dumb in advance but would it be that difficult to find?

I presume they know the spot of the Titanic exactly so would they not just go straight down from there? If something happened the sub wouldn't it just sink straight down close to the Titanic? Or are the currents down that deep strong enough to sweep it way off course?
 
What's the need for it to be bolted from the outside. I assume it's not for the purpose of maintaining an air tight chamber so is it to prevent anyone from opening it from the inside?
 
I presume they know the spot of the Titanic exactly so would they not just go straight down from there? If something happened the sub wouldn't it just sink straight down close to the Titanic?

The submarine staying submerged is the worst possible scenario. There's a reason for why it cost them 250k per head to go down there. It's a not a trivial matter and there are very few submarines capable of getting there. And even if there were, they'd still need to be pulled up. I'm not sure if such a technology even exists at such depths? The submarine could also be stuck in the Titanic itself.

The sub needs to surface and they need to be found before Thursday(?). That's their only hope for survival.
 
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I apologise for being dumb in advance but would it be that difficult to find?

I presume they know the spot of the Titanic exactly so would they not just go straight down from there? If something happened the sub wouldn't it just sink straight down close to the Titanic? Or are the currents down that deep strong enough to sweep it way off course?
I assumed it was tethered to the surface, seems like a no brainer.