We are going to need more than 6 defenders to cover the 4 positions, especially considering how injury prone our current options are. 8 would likely be sufficient. I very much doubt signing Vermaelen would have any effect on a deal for Luke Shaw.
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We are going to need more than 6 defenders to cover the 4 positions, especially considering how injury prone our current options are. 8 would likely be sufficient. I very much doubt signing Vermaelen would have any effect on a deal for Luke Shaw.
Naah, bad attempt. You need to learn from the poster on previous page and call all of our current CBs garbage. If you have to talk shite, at least go through with it. Half hearted attempts like this will not earn you the attention you are craving for.
They signed Sagna on a free transfer(Bosman) so no money went to the selling club (Arsenal). The money saved by the buying club is often used as a financial incentive to the player in the form of a high wage offer.
Yet they had the best defence that season
That is quite true.
It's not a reply to my post but I can't question its accuracy.
I don't not rate them, I don't think Jones has shown to be a particularly good centreback thus far, Smalling has a lot of weaknesses. Evans has been great for us but only when played alongside Rio and Vidic.
Vermaelen is utter shit
At 12m and for 100k LVG would be mad to pursuit him really. His price is around 4-5M top. And there is little reason to give him a raise on his current deal as well. More lucrative bonuses is acceptable.
But for 12M United can easily find a lot of other options. Any of the current dutch defenders could be bought for such an amount.
But for 12M United can easily find a lot of other options. Any of the current dutch defenders could be bought for such an amount.
Belgium prefer 36 year old ex-City Van Buyten at to him at CB, and Verthongen at LB.
That about sums it up
That about sums it up
Exactly. Doesn't put him in a good light.
Kompany carried him. Lescott is shite, it's as simple as that.
Lescott's a bit of a clown now but at his peak he was a significantly better defender than Vermaelen's ever been.
Vermaelen was always a far better footballer than Lescott, which is presumably the type of CB LVG is looking for.
Think most people agree that Vermaelen isn't really good enough anymore, Hummels is unrealistic and Verthongen would cost a fortune.
Beyond those three, which other ball playing CBs are people recommending? There doesn't seem to be that many CBs of that ilk around who are a) available and b) good enough. Ideas?
Think most people agree that Vermaelen isn't really good enough anymore, Hummels is unrealistic and Verthongen would cost a fortune.
Beyond those three, which other ball playing CBs are people recommending? There doesn't seem to be that many CBs of that ilk around who are a) available and b) good enough. Ideas?
I would go for Dejan Lovren. He can be crazy at times but he's a good defender.
Benatia. He's a great all-rounder.
Benatia. Would cost a fortune but he'd be definitely worth it.
Both are shite and rated higher than they should've been because they scored a few goals from set pieces.
Beyond Thiago Silva I'd probably have Benatia over anyone else. He's an absolute beast, the perfect all round centre half.
That's a bit over dramatic. We've signed much worse players than him and been successful. He is shite though.
Is he bollocks. I'd have all our current CB starting ahead of him because they are infinitely better defenders. Vermaelen was a flash in the pan because he scored a few belters a few years ago. His positional play and decision making is diabolical, and he's a wimp too.
I just hope LVG reads this post, before he goes out and wastes some cash. He will be glad you set him straight.
He'd probably cost more than Vermaelen for a start. He's a bit of a disaster at times too in defence.
Of course he'd cost more cause he's better. As I said he has his crazy moments but I think we would do good if we bought him.
If United get involved in Lovren's deal then I fancy Southampton asking ridiculous money for him. Do you think he's worth 25-30m?
I thought Liverpool were buying Southampton
Hummels and Benetia were my top 2 choices for CB. I doubt Hummels is available but Benetia is available to the highest bidder...
A bid of around 40m should get him... I think it depends on whether LVG rates him or not, time will tell.
I've not really seen much of Vermaelen for a while now. But if Lovren is the best we can do then god help us.
In all honesty though, there does seem to ve a lack of real quality CBs around these days. That's why people like Luiz cost €50mill.
I think its more the case that PSG are mad.
which makes them mad.
Stinking rich and have no regard for financial fair play. Mad? No. Arrogant? Yes.
A French Chelsea of 04/05.
Pretty much my thoughts, although I think he'll be given the opportunity early on to cement a first-team place. I'd have thought the centre backs would all be starting on an equal footing under Van Gaal. I'm fine with Vermaelan coming in personally. He's more talented than he's generally getting credit for on here, and as you say, between him, Evans, Smalling and Jones there should be enough talent to mould a good centre back pairing. We're not going to able to bring in top quality in every position that needs addressing, and centre back seems the obvious one to take a hit on given the potential we've got there anyway.
Daily Star reporting Arsenal fans will "riot" if we sign Cleverley. How has become so loathed by English fans? I know he's a bit useless, but he's not Andy Carroll.
I feel quite sorry for him. If he'd developed similarly for someone like Wigan and then been bought by Everton, he'd probably be pretty well regarded. No doubt there'd be more than a few on here wanting us to buy him after an impressive season under Martinez (mentioning no McCarthys).
No way they'd let us take both Shaw and Lovren.
Apparently we're in for him and he's submitted a transfer request. He's not great on the ball so if Van Gaal is after someone who is more comfortable with the ball, Lovren probably isn't a great choice. He's very good defensively though.
Just goes to show how idiotic most of the football fans are irrespective of club alignment, how they lack basic thinking capability and how easy it is for media to twist them around their little finger.
The thing is he still prefers right side:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...playing-right-Manchester-Uniteds-defence.html
I'll be rioting if we end up turning down Cesc and signing bleedin' Cleverley.
I warm to this, then I don't, because stuff like this just doesn't sit easy. I suppose we're just going to have to wait and see. I highly rate what we already have, however, which is why I can't be too worried about who we sign at centre half.
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