Wonder if we can throw Moyesy's daughter into the deal?
Thomas Vermaelen
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This isn't seriously going to happen is it? Surely not.
I'm not fussed on Vermaelen, he'll probably do alright, but Lescott is a stretch. He's always been shite.
A massive boner?
Havent been reading about transfer for a while. And then I see we're buying this guy?
Is that for real?
I mean we dont need him and he's not very good either.
If we're buying him as a backup and for cheap than ok but all in all it would be a strange transfer.
Is that for real?
I mean we dont need him and he's not very good either.
If we're buying him as a backup and for cheap than ok but all in all it would be a strange transfer.
We don't need him or we don't need a defender?Havent been reading about transfer for a while. And then I see we're buying this guy?
Is that for real?
I mean we dont need him and he's not very good either.
Maybe we should buy a defender but buying him would be a risk. If we're buying a CB we should go for someone like Hummels surely.
He'd be a risk at roughly £10m? Is that assuming hes not the only defender to come in? Why would be be a risk? Because he's not injured anymore or because he plays for Arsenal?
Risk is he's not very good anymore ( he was solid when he came to Arsenal ) and he's injured a lot. I dont see a purpose of this buy. If some other defender will come in all right but its just a strange deal as I said.
Jeez, that Woody's tougher than I thought...
That's what she said..
He's actually not that bad. He's also fit right now. The purpose is to buy a defender. Which other defender will come available? Which defender is realistic? Its not even strange. Hed be a squad player, at cheap price, with BPL experience.
We have no Europe next year so why not give Jones a year of domestic football as first choice. Vermaelen would be ideal to bring in as a rotation/back-up centre-back with PL experience and as a safety net in case Jones struggles when given the nod for a season.
I mean I'm against the signing of Vermealen but "conformation of where we now stand as a club, and how far we've fallen" is genuinely pathetic. Perhaps Sam also needs to be reminded that we signed Juan Mata and one of the best coaches in the world was desperate to sign for us but hey signing Vermealen will confirm our status as a 2nd grade club.
Well that's the point isn't it. He might be backup to the lads. Everyone is thinking he's a replacement for Vidic or Rio.
Question: Are Arsenal a second grade club because they signed Silvestre? Last I checked they were in the CL and we were not.
So if we get Vermaelen, do people think he'll be a back up? Also, does that rule us out of signing a left back, seeing as we've given Evra a one year contract extension, and Vermaelen can cover in that position? Van Gaal likes his defensive full backs so it'd probably make sense.
Defensive Options
Left Back (LB) - Evra/Vermaelen
Left Centre Back (LCB) - Evans/Vermaelen
Right Centre Back (RCB) - Smalling/Jones
Right Back (RB) - Rafael/Jones
Defensive Options
Left Back (LB) - Evra/Vermaelen
Left Centre Back (LCB) - Evans/Vermaelen
Right Centre Back (RCB) - Smalling/Jones
Right Back (RB) - Rafael/Jones
The bit at the end might be but the point still stands - Vermaelen just isn't good enough so it's daft for us to pretend otherwise.
Such a cringeworthy post this is.
Back-up is what I assumed. Jones steps up with Evans and he becomes the experienced back-up with Smalling. If Jones fulfils potential then we might not need to spunk £40m on a Rio/Vidic replacement. We may have to next summer if it doesn't work out with him, but with no CL this year why not hold fire to see. Could save a pretty penny if it works out.
Arsenal fan at work said he's a good player but since he got a bad injury he hasn't quite been the same.
Good enough for what? The club? Backup defender? Replacement for Rio or Vidic?
What isn't he good enough for and why? Compare and contrast with what we currently have.
Homework question
Exactly. Makes sense to me.
If you read my posts in this thread then I'm against this signing but that last point was completely ridiculous.
He started very well for them and is decent on the ball with good pace, suits teams trying to play a high line but Arsenal looked far better with Koscielny and Mertesacker playing together than they ever did with Vermaelen. Losing your place in the team and picking up a few injuries should not get him a 30% pay rise by coming to us.
Please cut the sick childish comments
Yeah, no worries, you gash-shy ring-tickler.
Assuming this is true, we have to assume that LVG reckons he can do a job. A good bit of sensible squad building if you ask me, especially if his fee is not much more then we had to pay Moyes to GTF.
Having said this, I don't believe a word of what is being printed in the press these days, except that so far, Chelsea has shown us a clean pair of heels in the transfer market. Apparently, we are the team that needs a rebuild.
Having said this, I don't believe a word of what is being printed in the press these days, except that so far, Chelsea has shown us a clean pair of heels in the transfer market. Apparently, we are the team that needs a rebuild.
Course not. Was very solid next to Kompany when they won the league.
Not good enough for United full stop. At times we sign young players that might not be a high enough level but have a good chance of being that in the future. Other times we sign more experienced heads to add quality to the squad.
Vermaelen is neither. He's an average 28 year old centre half who can't defend. Even at his peak he was positionally terrible and has never been famed for his actual defending, despite being a defender. He's significantly worse than what we currently have in a position that could do with strengthening. It's not like he's on a free either, paying 10m is just laughable.
Add to that the fact he's leaving because he wants regular football. It's been done to death in this thread already, but if he comes here it'll be to play more regularly.
Personally I still think there's a good chance it won't happen and I'm really hoping it doesn't.
If we're offering him £100k p/w (absurd wage) as one of the reports said, he certainly won't be back-up.
Fit and firing Vermaelen is twice as good as anything we've currently got.
That's pretty much the going rate these days. Sagna got 100k a week to go and cover Zabaleta from time to time.
Simply not true. There is a weird tendency to trash all our unfashionable players as being hopeless because we have seen their mistakes and their habits and we know the well, whereas we always consider other teams' players to be superior because we see their highlights every week but don't study them in as much detail as our own.
I suggest you don't rate Jones, Smalling and Evans simply because you are used to watching them week after week and fancy something new to look at.
He's not coming as back up. Why the hell would he swap sitting on the bench at Arsenal for sitting on the bench at United? And why the hell would we spend 100k a week on someone we're not planning on picking ahead of Smalling, Evans and Jones? Plus lets not forget that LVG apparently wants a ball playing left sided CB in our first team. That would be Vermaelen, no?
If he ends up as a rotation option it'll be because he wasn't able to step up to the role we have earmarked for him. No mistake, if we sign him it's with the intention of making him a first team player.
If he ends up as a rotation option it'll be because he wasn't able to step up to the role we have earmarked for him. No mistake, if we sign him it's with the intention of making him a first team player.
What City pay and the going rate are not really the same thing.
He's dog dirt. Always has been. The fee City paid for him was laughable.
Would it be safe to say if we get him, none of the high-profile defenders we've been linked with are coming?
Although right footed, we already have someone more than capable of playing that role in Evans, who is almost as comfortable with his left foot as with his right.
Maybe but with new rumors about Arsenal being interested in Smalling, maybe we will be bringing in 2 CBs
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