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1. If Muller wants out and if the price is right, there is always a chance. If even your precious Figo could move from Barca to Real...

2. He might want a new challenge, try a new league after such a long time. The bundesliga isn't walhalla. That he could get paid more is a nice extra.

What on earth Figo forcing his way to Real got to do with Bayern selling Muller to United? :rolleyes:
Your 2nd point applies to most Barca/Real players including Messi, but only player who's interested to move to United is the one who's normally on bench. A simple fact to show that money isn't everything. In terms of economics, I would call this as "Law Of Diminishing Marginal Utility".
 
There is not a chance in hell this is happening. Shame on those for dreaming up the opportunity as you shall be left disappointed. In reality, we have a better at Goetze or even Lewandowski.
Except almost no one realistically believes it will happen among United fans here. Everybody knows kind of paper Express is.It is just a bit of transfer fantasy.
If you want to see a thread where people genuinely think a transfer can happen, refer Ramos thread. 143 pages compared to 22 of this thread and half of the posts here are knowledgeable Bayern fans telling us how it is impossible to happen.
 
1. If Muller wants out and if the price is right, there is always a chance. If even your precious Figo could move from Barca to Real...
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Well real Madrid activated the buy out clause in figos contract so barca had to sell even though they didn't want to
Correct me if I'm wrong but to the best of my knowledge Muller does not have a buy out clause.
As such it is up to bayern if they want to sell or not (from all the reports I see it appears not)
Therefore it seems a completely different scenario to figo
 
Why would Bastian leave Bayern for us?

Because he was in a different position - both in his private and his sports life. Apart from his position with the fans Bastian lost his importance for Bayern in the recent two seasons. In 11-12 he was still missed when he did not play - in 13/14 and 14/15 that was not the case anymore. Until 12/13 he still was the poster boy for Bayern and for Adidas in Germany.

At United he still can have that importance.

Bastian has already talked about going abroad in 2010 - it is not a new topic. But after getting into the final of the CL he renewed his contract as he wanted to win that trophy with Bayern. I think he might have left earlier without the injuries he had the last two seasons.

One thing could be his new girlfriend, too.

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Müller is in a total different position. And he is a totally different person.
 
Questions for those who think this is feasible -

1. Why would Bayern sell?
2. Why would Muller come to United from Bayern?


Note: I know BS came, but that's a different case. Contract runing out, possibility of losing starting spot to newer guys, 1 last pay cheque are obvious factors. None of these apply to Muller.

As a neutral fan in this whole business, I find it bizzare that those 2 vital questions have no satisfying answers.


We never wanted to sell Ronaldo but the player made his desires obvious and we were very well compensated. Every player has his price, even Messi. If a club came to Bacelona with an eye watering £150m there is no way they'd turn it down. They couldn't.

Why would Muller come ? Why wouldn't he ? We are the biggest club in the PL and the PL is an obvious league to play in if he were to leave the Bundesliga. We are in the CL and managed by someone he clearly has respect for.

This move is by no means beyond the realms of possibility but it will take Muller to ask for a transfer to get it moving.
 
What on earth Figo forcing his way to Real got to do with Bayern selling Muller to United? :rolleyes:
Your 2nd point applies to most Barca/Real players including Messi, but only player who's interested to move to United is the one who's normally on bench. A simple fact to show that money isn't everything. In terms of economics, I would call this as "Law Of Diminishing Marginal Utility".
Figo to barca, RvP to United, it means anything can happen if the price and situation is right: it illustrates my point perfectly. Calm down.

Barca and Real players are in la liga, one of the two top leagues as of now. It is not the bundesliga.

As for that law of ''useless cocknoses being forced to try their luck in a different hole'' crap... you do not become a professor by using quasi intelligent googled up terms. Talk football or go home.
 
Figo to barca, RvP to United, it means anything can happen if the price and situation is right: it illustrates my point perfectly.
Indeed... If Muller had a buy out clause or was in the last year of his contract we might have a chance...
As neither of those is true though there is no reason for Munich to sell
 
What's being said about this in Germany? Do they think it's a goer?
 
I didn't ignore the differences, I merely thought Bayern was ran as an adult business not as a highscool popularity contest, clearly that is not the case. I never suggested there was any reality in the transfer stuff though, I was merely debating how I perceived Bayern to be ran in a mature, pragmatic fashion, something I was clearly wrong about.

I think having three people in charge of three different things is pretty pragmatic.
 
What's being said about this in Germany? Do they think it's a goer?

Nothing at all, complete non story over here since Rummenigge put his foot down. No reports of Müller being unhappy, either. He just looked grumpy when he got substituted against Wolfsburg.

Clear indicator's that he's on his way out. :angel:
 
Not sure what I find most funny, the delusion or the resident Bayern fans getting all uppity about it.
 
What an adult business means is that the manager calls the shots like anyone who is in charge of a team or unit of workers. If he wants to get rid of a player because he has issues with him or he doesn't fit in with how he wants to play, then he gets rid of him as no one player is more important than the manager, regardless of whether he was born in the home town or not.

An "adult business" (it's starting to feel like we're talking about porn here) is one that is able to balance the different demands and situations. There are very few successful businesses or any other organisations that are run as an absolutist autocracy. In this case, not pissing off your entire fanbase is an important part of making the "mature" decision.
 
Figo to barca, RvP to United, it means anything can happen if the price and situation is right: it illustrates my point perfectly.

The Bayern supporters here have been very patiently trying to explain that the situation is not right.

Not sure what I find most funny, the delusion or the resident Bayern fans getting all uppity about it.

Haha, you'd know all about getting uppity. :angel:
 
An "adult business" (it's starting to feel like we're talking about porn here) is one that is able to balance the different demands and situations. There are very few successful businesses or any other organisations that are run as an absolutist autocracy. In this case, not pissing off your entire fanbase is an important part of making the "mature" decision.

The fanbase dictating anything is letting the inmates run the asylum.
 
The fanbase dictating anything is letting the inmates run the asylum.

You have a very black-and-white view on things. Taking into consideration the feelings of the fans does not equal letting them "dictate" anything.

This always having to ask that your words not be taken to the absolute extreme in order to be refuted is really getting quite tiresome. I believe I have made my point, so have a good day.
 
You have a very black-and-white view on things. Taking into consideration the feelings of the fans does not equal letting them "dictate" anything.

This always having to ask that your words not be taken to the absolute extreme in order to be refuted is really getting quite tiresome. I believe I have made my point, so have a good day.

Yes it does, fans should have no say in what a manager chooses do with the players in his squad, a player being local should have zero bearing on what the manager can or can't do in building his team, it simply undermines him and his job.

I have honestly no idea what you mean in this second sentence, sorry.
 
Every player has his price, even Messi. If a club came to Bacelona with an eye watering £150m there is no way they'd turn it down. They couldn't.

If Messi was available for 150mil, barca's fax machine would crash with offers.

The only chance this Muller transfer happens is if Muller goes mental and pushes this through. Even that wouldn't be enough I believe as Bayern proved with ribery. In any case, there is no way Muller pushes this to the extent that Bayern's hand is forced.
 
Yes it does, fans should have no say in what a manager chooses do with the players in his squad, a player being local should have zero bearing on what the manager can or can't do in building his team, it simply undermines him and his job.
You know that the fans are kinda the owners of the club, right? They basically vote in the board after all. Sure, they can't be involved directly, but saying you should just ignore them and their wishes 100% is a bit silly. If you don't lead the club in a direction that they like, you're rightfully gone.
 
This thread should not still be at the top. It should be locked and thrown into the depths of caf hell so we can forget about it and move on. God I hate you people for even starting to get my hopes up.
 
You know that the fans are kinda the owners of the club, right? They basically vote in the board after all. Sure, they can't be involved directly, but saying you should just ignore them and their wishes 100% is a bit silly. If you don't lead the club in a direction that they like, you're rightfully gone.
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There are so many reasons why I would love us to sign Muller. Now I have a new one to the list; to see the meltdown by the Bayern fans on here. They are a touchy lot.
 
Probably the best moment on the Caf if we buy due to the no believers. They seem to forget who we've pulled out the bag in the past. Like they always say.. In football anything is possible.
 
Who have we 'pulled out of the bag' in the past?

The only real surprise I can think of is Schweinsteiger. Other than that we've generally bought from smaller clubs or a player who has been forced out (like Di Maria).

Even Schweinsteiger was for a player who isn't really first choice any more.
 
This is getting seriously crazy here... But count me in, Müller macht´s or Müller macht glücklich..
 
Who have we 'pulled out of the bag' in the past?

The only real surprise I can think of is Schweinsteiger. Other than that we've generally bought from smaller clubs or a player who has been forced out (like Di Maria).

Even Schweinsteiger was for a player who isn't really first choice any more.

You're forgetting Robin Van Persie.
 
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