Let me guess Ronaldo and Messi are carrying their teams?
The teams with Bale, Benzema, Modric, Kroos, Rodriguez or Suarez, Neymar, Iniesta, Busquets, Mascherano and Pique.
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Let me guess Ronaldo and Messi are carrying their teams?
The teams with Bale, Benzema, Modric, Kroos, Rodriguez or Suarez, Neymar, Iniesta, Busquets, Mascherano and Pique.
Our bid for Bale has since been confirmed by the journalists who cover us, journalists who cover Spurs and the journalists who cover Real. Nearly positive Woodward made a reference to it in one interview as well. It definitely happened.
Edit: Moyes confirmed it too when he left.
Let me guess Ronaldo and Messi are carrying their teams?
The teams with Bale, Benzema, Modric, Kroos, Rodriguez or Suarez, Neymar, Iniesta, Busquets, Mascherano and Pique.
Nah both Real Madrid and Barcelona would easily do without them both and still be as dominant.
For fun, Ronaldo scored more then Bale, Benzema, Modric, Kroos, Rodriguez combined. But obviously you are trying to be a justice warrior saying its a team effort QQ.
Link me a trust worthy source then which does not state it as a rumor. Who cares about intrest? Who wouldn't be interested in the best players in the world. Its about the official offer made.
Real's ex-President Ramon Calderon has said it also & all the top journo's, plus as Katie said - Moyes said he wanted Bale & he bid, but Bale was only heading to Real & no-one else..
None have stated that there was an official bid exceeding 100m, thats absolute bullshit.
Stop actin like a dick. You're annoyin a few people on here already today..
I know, guns are so passé!
Either im blind or you are on drugs,
But again like i already said 10x there is NO MENTION OF ANY OFFICIAL BID EVER MADE and SPECIALLY NOT OVER 100m.
"It's been well documented that we wanted Cesc Fabregas, Gareth Bale and Cristiano Ronaldo," - David Moyes
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...at-manchester-united-last-summer-9674141.html
How am i acting like a dick when im asking for proof?
You guys see newspapers and twitter journalists as a reliable source of inside information. And you find it weird that im asking you to back up your claims with an official article?
Who counts as a trustworthy source?
Here's Ogden from the Telegraph:
"The club also made a late attempt to hijack his move from White Hart Lane to Real two years ago, when a £100 million bid by United failed to persuade Bale to reject a move to Madrid."
The other journalists who cover us reported the same bid at the same time, as did the journalists who cover the other clubs.
How about SkySports, BBC, Bild, etc?
You know the companies that dont need to talk shit 24/7 just so their papers get sold.
*and before you start pointing out wrong stories from the above named. Shit happens thats news, but atleast they dont try to make stuff look as dodgy as possible to get views. They just make mistakes.
Not being ignorant, but its just unbelievable that when i say proof that people post quotes from sensation newspapers.
Whats next people giving Wikipedia as sources? Come on man.
Is Bild not a newspaper too?
Bild is a magazine, but they are known for their trust worthy research on football rumors.
Unlike english newspapers they classify stuff like "Cavani to United" as a rumor, and not as a news item in big ass caps on the front page without any story to back it up with.
Is there more than one publication called Bild? It would explain a lot if there was because a quick google search tells me:
"Bild has been described as "notorious for its mix of gossip, inflammatory language, and sensationalism" and as having a huge influence on German politicians. Its nearest English-language stylistic and journalistic equivalent is often considered to be the British national newspaper The Sun, the second highest selling European tabloid newspaper, with which it shares a degree of rivalry.
Der Spiegel wrote in 2006 that Bild "flies just under the nonsense threshold of American and British tabloids ... For the German desperate, it is a daily dose of high-resolution soft porn". According to The Guardian, for 28 years from 1984 to 2012, Bild had topless girls featuring on its first page; the paper published more than 5,000 topless pictures."
That surely isn't the publication you're ranking ahead of the combined weight of The Times, The Guardian and The Telegraph, is it?
Still maybe you're right. All the English newspapers do have sales to make, whereas Bild presumably runs on good-will and fairy dust. :P
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Yeah he probably took more shots than them combined, too.
Call me when he carries Portugal past the USA.
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Your quotes are spot on, Bild isn't comparable to The Times at all, however their Sport section is the exception, especially in regards to Bayern. Sportbild on the other hand is shite when it comes to transfer gossip etc.
Your quotes are spot on, Bild isn't comparable to The Times at all, however their Sport section is the exception, especially in regards to Bayern. Sportbild on the other hand is shite when it comes to transfer gossip etc.
So are we signing him or not?
Well it's fecking Bavaria. They go medieval on yo ass if you don't watch it.
Is Moyes lying?
Do you just read like 1 comment per page or do you actually read the entire conversations before you respond?
Where have i said that Moyes is lying?
What i said is that there has never been an official offer from Man United and specially not above 100m (Ive been saying this in nearly every comment, but for some reason people just completely ignore it). And there are 0 reliable sources that back up the rumor that Man United ever made an official bid.
Everyone's available. Dortmund couldn't turn down 50m for him.
It would be a massive bitchslap to Bayern fans to have to endure losing Schweinsteiger and Muller to one club in one summer. That's why I have my doubts this will happen. As @NoLogo said, Rummenigge and Pep would become instant Pinata boys of Bavaria.
Of course they could. They are the second richest club in Germany, they don't need €50m, they need Reus.
Dortmund have more money than Wolfsburg? Club's in Germany don't have nearly the same financial strength as the top 4 in England. He'd be sold if they got a 50m offer.
I think so, yes. And you are right, of course, German clubs bar maybe Bayern can never compete with the financial strength of the English ones, but as I said, Dortmund doesn't need that money, they need the player. And given that Reus just renewed his contract earlier this year without a release clause it's pretty obvious in my opinion that he's content to stay at the club.
There will not be a proof - even denials or confirmations aren't really a proof because you have to see the politics behind it, too. We just can try to find out how relieable the media was before in different cases.
About BILD - if they phrase something with "BILD knows" they always have been very relieable. Whereas the Sport1 article before was seen as a little shady from a lot of us.
Planted by Bayern officials - hell no. The climate is too hot for games like this right now. Everybody of the media is eyeing the relationship between Müller and Pep closely since months.
No-title-Reus and Griezmann comparable - hell no. Maybe they work better on FIFA. But FIFA is not the real world.
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And do we really have to discuss 100m EUR for Müller if the newest news is that City wants to pay 86m EUR for DeBruyne.
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About Reus - what do 50m EUR help you if you do not get anything for the same amount on the market?
About BILD - if they phrase something with "BILD knows" they always have been very relieable. Whereas the Sport1 article before was seen as a little shady from a lot of us.
Planted by Bayern officials - hell no. The climate is too hot for games like this right now. Everybody of the media is eyeing the relationship between Müller and Pep closely since months.
No-title-Reus and Griezmann comparable - hell no. Maybe they work better on FIFA. But FIFA is not the real world.
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And do we really have to discuss 100m EUR for Müller if the newest news is that City wants to pay 86m EUR for DeBruyne.
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About Reus - what do 50m EUR help you if you do not get anything for the same amount on the market?
thread is hilarious
It depends on what your definition of "need" money is, sure they won't go bankrupt without it but every player has a realistic price and 50m for him would be great value.
Planting a story about how Bayern turned down 100m is exactly how you cool down a climate rife with questions and suspicion. When anyone questions the relationship between Pep and Muller the answer is simple "he obviously likes him or he wouldn't turn down 100m!"
Bayern have planted plenty of stories in the past, Gotze for example.
Reus/Griezmann was an example of two players who could make them better for 100m, there's plenty of other combinations as well, Muller isn't worth two world class players. City won't even pay 50m EUR for De Bruyne nevermind 86, do you believe everything printed in the German media?
BILD is a daily newspaper. Probably the German equivalent to the Sun. They are very well connected (at least at certain clubs) and when something happens they are usually among the very first to know/report, but for every solid piece of information they also publish a couple of articles that are purely speculation or probably made up.
Then there is SPORT Bild, which is a weekly (?) sports magazine from the same publishing company. I haven't read that one ever, but my impression is that the speculation/BS vs solid information ratio is even worse for them.
Dortmund supposedly turned down an offer in the region of €50-60m from Real when the clause was still in play, if I remeber correctly that was supposed to be 2013, even before they sealed their new deal with Evonik and before they sold a lot of shares to Puma&co.
We can only speculate how big the influence of their share holders is but Puma surely wouldn't be happy about losing Reus to an Adidas club.
And if Reus was planning to move he probably would not have extended his contract and made the statements that he did.
I also don't see Bayern offering silly money to a rival, especially when the player was available for much less just a couple of months ago.
Well that might be correct for most situations, but at Bayern such decisions are not made by Pep. And given that Guardiola's contract is running out at the end of the season Bayern have a pretty good reason to keep a hold of Müller even if Pep and him really despise each other.
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If De Bruyne really becomes available, City will get him at almost any price, maybe not up to €86m but they would certainly pay €70m for him if necessary.
And Dortmund wouldn't ever sell Reus for €50m. Like do.ob already said, they supposedly rejected €65m bids from Real and Liverpool so money is not an issue for them.
Last of all, you don't get Reus and Griezmann for €100m in today's market, you'd probably be looking at €120m to even begin with.
I've read your posts in here and what we have to go on is a few articles, Moyes and Perez all stating we made a bid. Now if you want to believe we bid over or under 100 m or whatever is up to you, but according to those two we made a bid. Don't know why that sound so unbelievable when we've seen more of what Woodward is like the last year.
What's sad is, I'm still confident with those players Moyes would have found a way to feck that up.
I think most of us all think like that Vice..
He was just out of depth coming to us & Fergie should never have chose him. He seems like a really good guy & i hope he succeeds at Real though..
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