Thomas Müller

Muller is the guy who strikes me as somebody that can do well in an already functioning team, as he is intelligent and knows where to be. Nonetheless, his statistics make him seem better than he is I think, since his technical abilities leave much to be desired.
 
His attitude is absolutely amazing and we could with a guy of his intensity and leadership on the pitch. As it stands only Rooney is that kind of person in our squad and even he isn't being as bullish as he used to be. Muller's lack of physical attributes is rather over stated, he has pretty good short bursts of acceleration and excellent finishing quality.
 
Muller is the guy who strikes me as somebody that can do well in an already functioning team, as he is intelligent and knows where to be. Nonetheless, his statistics make him seem better than he is I think, since his technical abilities leave much to be desired.

Thats quite an odd statement, he is actually very good technically.
 
Muller is only 25 years old? Get your fat Nigerian ass out of here!! :eek:
 
Think this guy is still somewhat underrated. He never seems to come up in discussions of the world's best players when he really should. Better than the likes of Robben, Ribery, Goetze, Lewa and Reus imo.
 
Muller is Bayern through and through. He shouldn't leave.
 
Muller is the guy who strikes me as somebody that can do well in an already functioning team, as he is intelligent and knows where to be. Nonetheless, his statistics make him seem better than he is I think, since his technical abilities leave much to be desired.

He's brilliant technically!
 
Think this guy is still somewhat underrated. He never seems to come up in discussions of the world's best players when he really should. Better than the likes of Robben, Ribery, Goetze, Lewa and Reus imo.
Agreed for me he is up there with the best if you look past Ronaldo and Messi.
 
Ronaldo with the reasoning that he went to Madrid the first place and his age is starting to kick in. Bale with the reasoning that he is a one dimensional one trick pony. What is the reasoning behind an intelligent player like Muller who has been critical for Bayern and the german squad ?

Why are your asking me? I'd take any of them for the most obvious reason that they're all better than anyone we've currently got.
 
Think this guy is still somewhat underrated. He never seems to come up in discussions of the world's best players when he really should. Better than the likes of Robben, Ribery, Goetze, Lewa and Reus imo.

wasnt he 5th in the balon dor vote? He is a fantastic player, but he isn´t underrated. He is also certainly not better than Robben or Ribery. Lewandowski is also at least on par with him.
 
Muller is the guy who strikes me as somebody that can do well in an already functioning team, as he is intelligent and knows where to be. Nonetheless, his statistics make him seem better than he is I think, since his technical abilities leave much to be desired.

What part of his technical game is actually lackluster? His first touch is pretty darn good, as is his close control. His passing game is rock solid and his shooting top class. What Müller lacks and what IMO led to him being underrated for a long time is grace and flair. He sometimes looks clumsy and even weird on the ball. You have to fear that some of his moves lead to breaking his own legs, but the truth is that his movements get consistent results and even make him pretty hard to predict.

His biggest strengths are his enourmous game intelligence and big game attitude. He is not someone who needs his team around him to perform but is rather the guy you look at to do something when the team doesn´t work smoothly.

His accomplishments at the age of 25 are simply staggering and given that he is pretty much made out of iron you can expect him to break a couple of records in his career.

He is as Bavarian as it gets, which will probably mean that he will likely spend his whole career at Munich. After Messi the most unrealistic target United could possibly pick.
 
In addition to lacking grace and flair he might be the least flashy player ever. Look at this:
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That shouldn't be one of the best attacking midfielders in the world, but it is.
 
he is a 13-goals a season player - and I mean that quite litterally.

He has scored 13 League goals the last 3 seasons :)

He has 13 goals and 14 assists during the current season, in 31 Bundesliga games.
39 goals and assists combined in 47 games, cup and CL added.
40 goals/assists in 12/13 and 41 goals/assists in 2013/14.

So he is the complete package these last 3 seasons. ;)

About the rumor; never. Only Messi would add more to a club(Ronaldo is 4 1/2 older then Müller) for me.
A monster, already a legend and one of our core players.
Try 90 million.

P.S. I really get annoyed about the "punch face" talk. He gets angry in certain moments, like any player. Dont hate because you see him play twice a year or because of his team.
Such a great character.

And he is no Messi on the ball, yes. But he is also no 1,74.
He is a tall guy. His technique is very, very good.
He lacks the grace but only because he is a fighter and like I said, quite tall and he also just doesnt care. What works at that moment is fine.

 
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That is a 5 year old video. First match of CL group stage 2010/11.


The technic - he somehow has his own technic and has his own ways - but most important gets the job done. I think he looks less awkward with every year...


That was in May/June 2007. The number 7.
 
Muller is the guy who strikes me as somebody that can do well in an already functioning team, as he is intelligent and knows where to be. Nonetheless, his statistics make him seem better than he is I think, since his technical abilities leave much to be desired.

Harsh wording, but I know what you mean. He's an accomplished footballer, good finisher, good touch, good in the air, good passing, good physical attributes, but to me its his knack of popping up on the right place that is his main strength. I definitely see why he isn't mentioned in the same bracket as Suarez, Robben etc
 
Muller is the guy who strikes me as somebody that can do well in an already functioning team, as he is intelligent and knows where to be. Nonetheless, his statistics make him seem better than he is I think, since his technical abilities leave much to be desired.

I think he'd do well on a worse team, though, because he'd have a chance to play on the counter more and he seems to be pretty brilliant in his movement when there is space in behind to exploit.
 
Can't see any reason for Bayern to sell him. I would absolutely love him here though.
 
Isn't he pretty much Mr Bayern Munich? Does anyone really think they'll sell or that he will want to go? Not a chance.
 
There's a blogger out there who is basically a mathematician and not really a football fan in the sense that he is more interested in the numbers and statistics than in the game itself. He created an algorithm that rates players according not to their stats like goals or assits, but ccording to what this blogger calls "Goalimpact". It basically measures the average goal difference of a team with and withoutthe player on the field. The better his team performs in terms of goals difference with the player on the field compared to how it performs without him, the higher his "Goalimpact".

The guy himself says his "GI" doesn't necessarily reflect how good a player is individually and that it can always be improved, but I think he's on a pretty good track with this thing.

Point is: Not only is Müller's score of 217 the highest "Goalimpact" in the world by far (the average of all players is always 100), it is actually the highest in the history of world football (as far as the calculator's database goes, at least. Puskas is #2).
Tells you all you need to know about Müller. If a game is truly important, the more Müllers you have the better. It also mirrors what Badstuber, who played alongside Müller in Bayern's youth teams, once said about him. Paraphrased, it was something like: "He was never the best at anything or the outstanding player in the team but in practice matches, the team he played for always won, no matter who he was playing with."

Just thought you might be interested.
http://www.goalimpact.com/p/blog-page.html
http://www.goalimpact.com/2015/04/top50-football-players-april-2015.html

Oh, just to say it again: This deal won't happen.
 
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There's a blogger out there who is basically a mathematician and not really a football fan in the sense that he is more interested in the numbers and statistics than in the game itself. He created an algorithm that rates players according not to their stats like goals or assits, but ccording to what this blogger calls "Goalimpact". It basically measures the average goal difference of a team with and withoutthe player on the field. The better his team performs in terms of goals difference with the player on the field compared to how it performs without him, the higher his "Goalimpact".

The guy himself says his "GI" doesn't necessarily reflect how good a player is individually and that it can always be improved, but I think he's on a pretty good track with this thing.

Point is: Not only is Müller's score of 217 the highest "Goalimpact" in the world by far (the average of all players is always 100), it is actually the highest in the history of world football (as far as the calculator's database goes, at least. Puskas is #2).
Tells you all you need to know about Müller. If a game is truly important, the more Müllers you have the better. It also mirrors what Badstuber, who played alongside Müller in Bayern's youth teams, once said about him. Paraphrased, it was something like: "He was never the best at anything or the outstanding player in the team but in practice matches, the team he played for always won, no matter who he was playing with."

Just thought you might be interested.
http://www.goalimpact.com/p/blog-page.html
http://www.goalimpact.com/2015/04/top50-football-players-april-2015.html

Oh, just to say it again: This deal won't happen.

That's all well and good... but Ozil is second on that list which makes me question it somewhat.
 
It does seem pretty clear Guardiola doesn't know how to get the best out of him so I wouldn't be surprised at all if he was fine with him moving on, but Bayern would obviously never allow it. I'd love him here.


Bayern would rather sack Guardiola than selling Müller. Same thing for the likes of Neuer and Alaba, they are Bayerns most valuable players (the others are old already). Tbh i can see Real trying to buy Neuer since Casillas is past his days but there would be no chance for them, at least not under 100 Mio.

For the one's who asked in which position Müller plays ecactly: 9, false 9, 10, false 10, right winger, right midfielder, even right defender if necessary :lol: He is constantly rotating, the only thing you almost never see him from him is moving to the left.
 
"I'll end here", accompanied by a picture of him celebrating a league title. What he means to say is his time at Munich has now ended.
 
"I'll end here", accompanied by a picture of him celebrating a league title. What he means to say is his time at Munich has now ended.

I admire your optimism. Well done Sir.
 
The picture clearly shows that he intends to support Bayern when his career at United ends.