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Annihilate Now! said:
Right... and what impact did that have to the way any of them were a) percieved or b) booked?
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Bray Wyatt went on to face the Undertaker at Wrestlemania with many predicting (foolishly) that he could win, he should have, but he never was.

CM Punk spat his dummy out the next day and was never seen again.

Dolph Ziggler won the world title 2/3 months later.

The Miz's 2012 was the exception in the cases you mention.

Legitimising AJ Styles to a casual fan will take being booked well by the WWE from this point forward. He made a big debut, it generated a great reaction from the crowd (which any casual fan could see/hear) and it got people talking (with Smarks obviously, but the casual fan will surely want to know more about AJ Styles after yesterdays match)... which is exactly what it needed to do. Now they have to build on it.

The only two ways in which he would have done that any greater then he did last night would have been to a) win the thing or b) eliminated tons of people (though even that often gets lost after a while) ... short of that, the simple fact that he didn't last as long as Chris Jericho is completely inconsequential.
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You're assuming that casual fans watch Raw. The numbers suggest nobody watches Raw anymore, and who can blame them.

JP77 said:
I hope they completely bury AJ Styles just to see @phelans shorts have a meltdown, it'll be glorious. Have him lose on the pre-show of Wrestlemania to Charlotte.
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So do I tbh, I won't have anything to search out on Tuesday's then and I can just relive all of his excellent stuff over and over.
 
phelans shorts said:
Bray Wyatt went on to face the Undertaker at Wrestlemania with many predicting (foolishly) that he could win, he should have, but he never was.

CM Punk spat his dummy out the next day and was never seen again.

Dolph Ziggler won the world title 2/3 months later.

The Miz's 2012 was the exception in the cases you mention.



You're assuming that casual fans watch Raw. The numbers suggest nobody watches Raw anymore, and who can blame them.



So do I tbh, I won't have anything to search out on Tuesday's then and I can just relive all of his excellent stuff over and over.
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I think a Styles/Charlotte love angle could do him wonders too. Or even put Styles alongside her as her manager to get him over.
 
phelans shorts said:
I just really dislike Chris Jericho at this point tbh. It's like letting Regina George's mum wrestle.
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Agree, he was past his best about 13 years ago and past caring about 5 years ago. Anyone half suspect this may be his final run and he could go into the Hall of Fame?
 
Hal9000 said:
It's been known for a whilst, but yesterday reinforced it.

Dunn needs to be sacked.
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I was never really that bothered about the camerawork in WWE, but after watching Lucha Underground (which does that, amongst many other things, superbly), it's really hard to go back to WWE's way of doing it.
 
phelans shorts said:
Very easy to hate Chris Jericho in 2016, because he's Chris Jericho and its 2016. He's an embarrassment.

Imagine putting the best wrestler in the world at an early Rumble number then have him look like a total geek being easily out lasted by Chris Jericho.
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Come on.

Jericho might be older now, but he's given his life to the industry. 2008 was one of the best year a wrestler's ever had.He's also been one of those that puts younger talent over.

Even if he lasted long last night, there's was really nothing stopping the WWE pushing someone else to do the same. Its been done before.
 
Sylar said:
Exactly the problem I had with it. It was just bizarre and usual WWE stuff we get on the road to WM and then they wonder why nobody cares about regular talent after Wm when they rely on them.



Except he got cheered, and hes going to do those same promos he did against Cena years ago which will make the fans boo Reigns even more and make the crowd 50/50 for their match. HHH is not a good heel anymore because he does the whole "im too cool so please cheer for me" and then the fans do.
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The crowd is going too boo Reigns anyway.

I think a triple threat match would work. Ambrose can always brag that he outlasted Reigns, simmer tensions between the two. Then maybe have a 1 contendor match at fastlane. Have a screwy finish and give us HHH v Ambrose v Reigns . Have HHH tap in the main event again like that Wtestlemania that never happened....
 
K2K said:
Jericho might be older now, but he's given his life to the industry. 2008 was one of the best year a wrestler's ever had.He's also been one of those that puts younger talent over.
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The thing is he was a non-entity in the match. A longer Wyatt beat up of Lesnar might have developed into a feud, or more of Zayn vs KO, or more of Kofi would all have been more memorable for this match.

K2K said:
The crowd is going too boo Reigns anyway.
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The plot makes it prime for Roman to be boo'd. He was pushed as a superman and got boo'd last time. He won his way back with gritty matches and now they repeat the same mistake where he vanishes and suddenly comes back and clears the ring. Fans respect a good fight more than the fighter.
 
Minkaro said:
I was never really that bothered about the camerawork in WWE, but after watching Lucha Underground (which does that, amongst many other things, superbly), it's really hard to go back to WWE's way of doing it.
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Just one of many from last night, including focusing on Roman during AJ's entrance, missing Kofi and a few others eliminations, completly missing Becky's reaction after her match.
 
K2K said:
Come on.

Jericho might be older now, but he's given his life to the industry. 2008 was one of the best year a wrestler's ever had.He's also been one of those that puts younger talent over.

Even if he lasted long last night, there's was really nothing stopping the WWE pushing someone else to do the same. Its been done before.
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The problem with Jericho is that he's predictable. He comes back, gets the odd win or so to not lose his standing, puts over a few younger talents, then disappears. It's mindless fun but it's mindless fun again and again. He should probably appear less often, and/or talk more (and wrestle less). He's better on the microphone than most of the talent today, anyway.
 
Hal9000 said:
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Just one of many from last night, including focusing on Roman during AJ's entrance, missing Kofi and a few others eliminations, completly missing Becky's reaction after her match.
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That's really absurd. Sums it up really. I remember another moment where the commentators were shouting "Roman's going over, he's gonna be eliminated!" and they cut to a shot of somebody just lay in the corner.
 
My god the camera work was bad last night. Actually ruined and missed some good spots just because it felt the need to be super shaky and super close up. The whole focus on Reigns walking up the ramp rather than people getting eliminated from the Rumble was especially annoying.
 
I watched the RR again today with my bro and dad. They actually showed a replay of Kofis elimination like 10 minutes or so after it happened.

K2K said:
The crowd is going too boo Reigns anyway.

I think a triple threat match would work. Ambrose can always brag that he outlasted Reigns, simmer tensions between the two. Then maybe have a 1 contendor match at fastlane. Have a screwy finish and give us HHH v Ambrose v Reigns . Have HHH tap in the main event again like that Wtestlemania that never happened....
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WWE have put him in a position to get booed as @Edgar Allan Pillow said.
Dude worked his ass off to get accepted, and had Philly chanting Thank You Roman, cheering his title win, only just two or three weeks ago. Now they go and do that to him yesterday. Its bonkers.

The worst part is when they had Roman stop being carted off, he gets up and then just walks to the back himself.
But then a minute or so later, Owens who is badly injured, limps to the ring like a badass ready to fight.

Then later in the night, Miz, the heel waits for his time to enter the ring by waiting outside (on commentary). And then moments later Roman comes out (like he was waiting his time to come back into the match).

Adcuth said:
Please put AJ, Sami and KO in a ladder match at mania
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Ladder match for what?

Anyway, id prefer KO vs Sami in a match and then Kalisto vs Aj vs Neville for the US title.
 
bleezy said:
My god the camera work was bad last night. Actually ruined and missed some good spots just because it felt the need to be super shaky and super close up. The whole focus on Reigns walking up the ramp rather than people getting eliminated from the Rumble was especially annoying.
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Totally fecked up on AJ's debut. The crowd popped as Phenomenal came up on the tron, yet all we saw was Romans face.

 
Sylar said:
I watched the RR again today with my bro and dad. They actually showed a replay of Kofis elimination like 10 minutes or so after it happened.



WWE have put him in a position to get booed as @Edgar Allan Pillow said.
Dude worked his ass off to get accepted, and had Philly chanting Thank You Roman, cheering his title win, only just two or three weeks ago. Now they go and do that to him yesterday. Its bonkers.

The worst part is when they had Roman stop being carted off, he gets up and then just walks to the back himself.
But then a minute or so later, Owens who is badly injured, limps to the ring like a badass ready to fight.

Then later in the night, Miz, the heel waits for his time to enter the ring by waiting outside (on commentary). And then moments later Roman comes out (like he was waiting his time to come back into the match).



Ladder match for what?

Anyway, id prefer KO vs Sami in a match and then Kalisto vs Aj vs Neville for the US title.
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For a hell of a freaking match, but if need be take the IC title off Ambrose (pisses me off), give it back to Owens then build this match.
 
I really really like AJs theme and the way he walks out to it.

Also lol, a 20 minute Authority promo to be interrupted by Roman zzz. Basically would rather HHH comes out to promo but instead Roman just comes out and they start brawling like crazy. Fck the talking, just fight. Save the talking for later.

I can just imagine HHH coming out and talking about how hes the greatest, Stephanie pretending shes Vince, Reigns then comes out, all smiling despite losing. He comes to the ring and blasts HHH then gets slapped by Stephanie and he has to take it and HHH laughs.Ugh.
 
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