Ryder has a herniated disc in his back which is probably why they have taken the story line with him the way they did after he won the championship, losing it then Kane destroying him putting him out of action. All to develop the heat with Cena to keep the fans interested while Ryder recovers from the injury.
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Also, why is it that some wrestlers treat the fans with respect, while others don't? Don't they know that that gets them booed?
Not sure if serious. My point was that the motions they go through are the same time after time. It's like they loaded what the ref is about to do from a disk.
Whos the chick that's always with Teddy long in smackdown.
You know what I'd do if someone tried to Irish whip me? I'm not sure, but probably not intentionally bounce off the ropes and run into whatever move they hit me with.
It's feckin' wrestling.
It staying the same is fine by me. In the next few weeks, I'd like for him to start having some more competitive matches (which I'm sure will happen against Regal). Maybe add some crowd participation moves into his repertoire as well? (Like how Kofi has the "Boom! Boom!" for his leg drop, or Ryder has the "woo woo woo" for his Broski Boot).
Yeah... that still doesn't change the fact that they could change the record every so often. You know, sometimes when people get Irish whipped, they don't actually bounce off the ropes and run into whatever move the other superstar wants to hit them with. Food for thought.
Reverse Irish whip? Or one of the many irish whip counters?
Or the jump over/slider under/clothesline/jump into the guy who irish whipped them.
It just annoys me that's all, oh look the ref has gone to the other corner, I know what he's going to do now, he's going to point at him to go back to his corner and ignore everything being said and just completely forget that there's a match up going on behind him while someone else does it, and then turn around just after it's finished. Oh yeah, there he did.
I'd just like them to turn around and catch someone out once in a while, or not have it happen so many times in one night, or do anything other than running refereedistraction.exe every time. They just get painted as extremely stupid and incompetent. I'd like to see them grow some balls, catch out some dirty tactics etc.
So yeah, apparently I pointed it out and Excal is responsible for having the referees do that and has taken great offence.
They have once or twice caught the miscreants e.g. in the I Quit match between Miz and Cena (?) when Alex Riley used the tape player to make it seem that the opponent had quit. He got caught. There's some other Riley ones as well.
It's this for thought:
When in 2011 did you start watching wrestling, out of curiosity?
The point which has so strangely eluded you is that the referees are not in fact actual referees of a sporting competition, nor are they characters in need of development so we the audience can connect with them. They're props for the storyline, scenario. Heels need to cheat, and quite often, they need to get away with cheating. The number of ways heels can cheat in the context of an ordinary match is limited, and a distracted or out -of-position referee is one of those ways.
If wrestling was real, yes, refs would catch onto this, but the point about the Irish whip was that it's wrestling. Honestly, if you're gonna be bothered by unreality in professional wrestling, I don't know if WWE television is for you, but moreover I don't know how it's refs not catching heels cheating that sticks out to you as somehow being unusually unreal for the show?
People have private conversations in front of live television cameras broadcast to the entire crowd of the arena that they are in, and other people are apparently not privy to those conversations. Criminal assaults (and occasionally attempted murders) are regularly committed. It hurts to jump off of the top rope and land on the mat, unless you drive your elbow into the opponent, then you're fine. And the most common response to being Irish Whipped is to run to the ropes and bounce off of them.
Seriously. It's feckin' wrestling, already.
Yeah I remember that, but come on how long ago was that. Needs to happen more often.
It's this for thought:
When in 2011 did you start watching wrestling, out of curiosity?
The point which has so strangely eluded you is that the referees are not in fact actual referees of a sporting competition, nor are they characters in need of development so we the audience can connect with them. They're props for the storyline, scenario. Heels need to cheat, and quite often, they need to get away with cheating. The number of ways heels can cheat in the context of an ordinary match is limited, and a distracted or out -of-position referee is one of those ways.
If wrestling was real, yes, refs would catch onto this, but the point about the Irish whip was, that it's wrestling, don't take it so seriously. Honestly, if you're gonna be bothered by unreality in professional wrestling, I don't know if WWE television is for you, but moreover I don't know how it's refs not catching heels cheating that sticks out at you as somehow being unusually unreal for the show?
I've got no idea what you're talking about, who said it was real? Get off your soapbox. It's a production, an act, therefore it needs to be acted well. End of story. They are all actors playing out a story. 'Quite often' is not the same as 'every time' and my post was not so much towards the act of it happening itself, but the boring mundane same way they do it time after time. Whether it's real or not has nothing to do with this, I have no idea why you're getting on your period about it. I'm sorry if your dad is a WWE ref or something, but quite often people have opinions on things that may or may not match up with your own personal opinion.
I remember when the wrestlers used to knock Earl Hebner out cold just by running into him. He was seeing stars!
Madface Cena shows you how high the bar is for acting well.
And you're griping that the extras aren't being realistic because they're all staying off to the side rather than walking between the camera and the stars.
Yeah play this card. Talk bollocks to try and look smart, get called on it, claim the other person is angry. It's as original as refs missing the face team's tag.
I'm sorry if my personal opinion that watching a ref get distracted 5 times and they all do the same motions time after time after time a carbon copy of the last one that did it and the one before him is something of a minor annoyance to me when watching a story. I'm sorry if every once in a while I'd like to see one turn around and DQ someone for cheating just to put a bit of a twist into the match ups. I do apologise for not agreeing with you Excal.I stated my opinion and you came in here all high and mighty. Grow up. You're the one with your panties in a twist trying to condemn another persons opinion.
Guys, I know how we can settle this. Go to the back and get ready. I'm placing you both in a TLC match where the prize is a pair of knickers tied in a knot. Whoever retrieves them can undo the knot to prove their knickers are not in a twist.
That match is NEXT!
That match is NEXT!
That's the only way to settle Excal on the internet. He was like this in the WW threads too. Will there be a referee? I want to know if I can get away with something illegal 5 times in a row or not.
I believe you have in fact seen that done just about five times....
...because even after the other posts pointing out instances where this has happened (there's many others), you're still on about this.
Zarlak-facht: I'm upset Zarlak isn't agreeing with me. You can tell this because I am pressing my case. He is totally cool with me not agreeing with him. You can tell this because he...kind of isn't, anymore. I'd ask for a judgement call but the ref's over there arguing with 101.
*insert passive-aggressive dig at Zarlak that totally proves he's the mad one and not me here* totally aware of the ironyNo, you're a wum who doesn't let anything go which we saw in the WW threads. You just get your teeth into something and don't let go.
If you actually read properly, you'd see I agreed with the instance that had been pointed out which was 8 months ago by the way... lot's of WWE since then.
I stated something that was my opinion, you had a hissy fit. I posted my opinion, and you followed up with sarcastic posts. It's you that's got the issue with what I said, not the other way round. I'm laughing here. I can't understand how something minor that grates on me, provokes such a response from you who feels so strongly it seems about it. Tell your dad on Sunday I'd like him to be extra vigilant when someone distracts him.
Now you've done it. I'm the special guest referee! Queue my music!!
The argument goes something like this: The title Flair brought to WWF in 1991 was the NWA belt - the big gold belt he never lost. WCW than created a new belt that was won by Lex Lugar. Flair unified those two belts when he won the Rumble. Later in 92 Bret Hart won that belt from Flair. So the WCW belt used from 1991 on technically isn't the real WCW belt.
Uh, make up your mind? Am I wumming or have got my teeth in something and am not letting go? Those aren't really the same thing.
Ooh, I can play that game!
You stated something that was really bothering you, I pointed out that that thing is an age-old wrestling trope. You shit your pants at someone disagreeing with you, clubbed a baby seal, and shot a man in Reno. I at all times was cool and collected, like the love child of Barack Obama and Spock.
Your turn!
I trust I don't need to explain to you, that you can be both? And that I also didn't say you were wumming here, but merely said you were one? I trust I don't actually have to explain that to you?
Really bothering me? I suggest you re-read the posts you're having a huff over. I believe I used the team 'really starting to grate'
I never shit over anything. You posted sarcasm to my opinion, I posted not sure if serious, I posted more as to why it had started to annoy me, you posted a big post back to me with a load of rubbish in it about me only starting watching WWE from 2011, me for some reason needing reminding that wrestling wasn't real, with a few extra tidbits thrown in for free about it hurting if you jump off the top rope. Really you just posted a lot of indignant shite to what is my opinion. Bizarre really. You could have just filed it away under 'not quite your opinion' but no... that would have been too easy.
Those are 2 very disturbing images.
Now I wonder if you're wumming, here. You took a sentence that had you clubbing a baby seal and shooting a man in Reno as my facht-you-all opinion?
Here. Enjoy Scouse Daniel Bryan and stop bloody moaning already:
Now I wonder if you're wumming, here. You took a sentence that had you clubbing a baby seal and shooting a man in Reno as my facht-you-all opinion?
Here. Enjoy Scouse Daniel Bryan and stop bloody moaning already:
No, I took you taking my opinion about watching someone do the same thing over and over and over as starting to get stale and turning it into this, as a bit bizarre and funny.
Anyway, let me have my opinion and let's agree to disagree. I see your scouse Daniel Bryan and raise you...
Zarlak...you're wrong, about whatever you and Excal are moaning about. We should make this...A TAG TEAM MATCH...PLAYA
Right... who spilt the Coffee on who??
Surely he'd have been stripped of the title regardless of the belt though? In either case, the current WWE Title is still the unification of the NWA/WCW Title, either by way of Flair unifying them or Jericho unifying them, so I'd say that's the one with all the history.
We need to get Teddy Long to sign up to this forum. He'd sort everything out.
Mostly by putting Zarlak and Excal into a tag team match.
Mostly by putting Zarlak and Excal into a tag team match.