Look how well he's selling the move!
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Look how well he's selling the move!
I loved that, he was just there, planking like a baws.
That is superb selling... though as people have alluded too, still not the best face of the night...
Then I suggest you sort it!
Then I suggest you sort it!
The Kane/Cena storyline is a bit shit, but if it achieves the end goals of a more serious Ryder and a heeli-ish Cena it's job done. Kane is just Kane, he can do what he wants at this stage in all honesty.
Actually the world title is the title with the history and the prestige.
WWE Title has been around a lot longer than that World Heavyweight Championship. The WHC is currently represented by the same belt as the old WCW Title, but it's a separate title that was created in 2002. The WCW Title's lineage follows into the current WWE Title as they were unified in 2001 or 2002.
Didn't they announce that anybody can enter the Rumble this year? Or at least emphasise it?
If the unification rumours are true, then maybe Punk or Bryan could win it and challenge the other? Or whoever's champion following the world title matches. Punk vs. Bryan at Wrestlemania would probably cause the internet to melt
If the unification rumours are true, then maybe Punk or Bryan could win it and challenge the other? Or whoever's champion following the world title matches. Punk vs. Bryan at Wrestlemania would probably cause the internet to melt
Wouldn't surprise me. With Rock vs Cena headlining and Undertaker coming back, the title matches would get a bit lost in the shuffle. If they unify, this could be the perfect blend of a PPV for the older and younger fans. On top of that they're bringing back Money in the Bank and that instantly makes the overall card stronger.
I agree, but I don't think it was ever going to have the same impact no matter how high they built it up. It was always going to be a copy of the original.
Also I really hope they find a way to keep Johnny Ace on tv. He's grown on me every week.
They've needed to trim the belts down for a while now, they also really need to get all their talent into some effective tag team division, which has been lacking for years. Teams that will stay teams as opposed to headline singles wrestlersbeing given soemthing to do whilst they're not part of any storylines.
It's also about time they figured out how to utilise some Japanese wrestlers properly.
I personally would hate a title unification... I like the two belt system they currently have. It gives more guys a shot at legitimacy, and it allows for a guarenteed two big matches on every PPV... it's not like the talent isn't there to fill the spot, there is a fairly strong upper midcard at the moment.
In a one belt enviornment, Daniel Bryan would never have become a champion and given the excellent push and character development he's now recieving. Sure, a unification match is a good hook, but is it really all that beneficial in the long term?? Is anyone strongly against the current system?? If it isn't broke...
In a one belt enviornment, Daniel Bryan would never have become a champion and given the excellent push and character development he's now recieving. Sure, a unification match is a good hook, but is it really all that beneficial in the long term?? Is anyone strongly against the current system?? If it isn't broke...
The problem is that one belt always plays second fiddle to the other. Basically one of them has replaced the old intercontinental belt. The Intercontinental belt was were the younger wrestlers made their name before being moved onto the headlining acts.
Possibly... but I don't think the distinction is as clear as with Top level/IC level... both are WHC and both strike me as being very big deals. Look at the reaction that Christian and Daniel Bryan recieved for winning the WHC this year... that was a world title level reaction from the crowd and from pretty much everybody, I doubt it would have been bigger/better if it was the WWE title instead.
If Cena has the WWE Title, and Undertaker has the WHC, is there really a clear second fiddle there?
If Cena has the WWE Title, and Undertaker has the WHC, is there really a clear second fiddle there?
The reactions were the same for the Intercontinental back in the day. It depends on whose story they push more. Smackdown and Raw no longer feel like seperate entities, so having 2 belts isn't as needed. They should drop the WWE belt if they do and stick to the WHC as that was the belt that mattered for over a hundred years.
The current WHC belt hasn't given anyone more opportunities as much as it has pushed the Intercontinental Championship down to a lower status. I disagree that there's too many belts, but the idea of trying to have two top titles billed as equals when everyone knows that's not really the case is what bothers me. They used to have the WWF, Intercontinental, Hardcore, European, Light Heavyweight, Women's, and Tag titles. That's one more than they have now, actually. But the benefit to the old system is that each belt meant something different. Now it's brand champ and brand up-and-comer champ on two brands and it just seems redundant.
Basically they need one world title, one midcard title, one up-and-comer title, and a cruiserweight title so they can give all they high flyers they have something to compete for.
Why am I seeing no mention, on a board full of Brits, of the best part of Raw last night? REGAL:
"I danced my backside off. Look at my derriere going!"
"400 pounds of septic tripe dancing. It's disgraceful. Looks like a bloody blancmange!"
"Watching him gyrate is like watching a walrus give birth."
and the best of all:
"It's like a jungle sometimes. It makes me wonder how I keep from going under."
Regal quoting The Message = epic win.
"I danced my backside off. Look at my derriere going!"
"400 pounds of septic tripe dancing. It's disgraceful. Looks like a bloody blancmange!"
"Watching him gyrate is like watching a walrus give birth."
and the best of all:
"It's like a jungle sometimes. It makes me wonder how I keep from going under."
Regal quoting The Message = epic win.
I thought the United States championship was building up to replace the Intercontinental title. It propelled Ziggler and who knows what it could have done for Ryder if creative hadn't blanked out.
Ziggler's a former World Heavyweight Champ (under suspicious circumstances) and Intercontinental Champ though. The only thing that makes the US championship propel anyone is the fact that it's on the same brand as the WWE championship.
They've got a lot of work to do then if they really want to make the I.C title as legitimate as it was 10/20 years ago... (though in fairness, they're on the right track with Cody). Out of that and the US, they should definitley keep the US... it means next to nothing these days.
Anyway, my rumble predictions
No. 2 (as Miz is no.1) - Justin Gabriel
No. 30 - Chris Jericho
Shortest Stint - Drew MacIntyre
Longest Stint - Wade Barrett
Most Eliminations - Brodus Clay
Winner - Chris Jericho.
Anyway, my rumble predictions
No. 2 (as Miz is no.1) - Justin Gabriel
No. 30 - Chris Jericho
Shortest Stint - Drew MacIntyre
Longest Stint - Wade Barrett
Most Eliminations - Brodus Clay
Winner - Chris Jericho.
No. 2 - Alex Riley (just for a brief rekindling of the Miz/Riley feud
No. 30 - The Big Show
Shortest Stint - David Otunga
Longest Stint - The Miz
Most Eliminations - Kane
Winner - Going to agree here, and say Jericho.
I can actually see him entering fairly early on, like 5th, and celebrating his way down to the ring, around the ring, and then backstage. Commentators puzzle about it, but then all mention stops until right at the end, when the "winner" is celebrating. Jericho out of nowhere bah gawd for the win.
No. 30 - The Big Show
Shortest Stint - David Otunga
Longest Stint - The Miz
Most Eliminations - Kane
Winner - Going to agree here, and say Jericho.
I can actually see him entering fairly early on, like 5th, and celebrating his way down to the ring, around the ring, and then backstage. Commentators puzzle about it, but then all mention stops until right at the end, when the "winner" is celebrating. Jericho out of nowhere bah gawd for the win.
No. 2 - Alex Riley or R-Truth
No. 30 - Randy Orton
Shortest Stint - Drew McIntyre
Longest Stint - Wade Barrett
Most Eliminations - Sheamus
Winner - Chris Jericho (I would put money on this).
No. 30 - Randy Orton
Shortest Stint - Drew McIntyre
Longest Stint - Wade Barrett
Most Eliminations - Sheamus
Winner - Chris Jericho (I would put money on this).
No. 2 - John Morrison (shock return)
No. 30 - Chris Jericho
Shortest Stint - Trent Barretta
Longest Stint - Miz
Most Eliminations - Sheamus
Winner - Chris Jericho
No. 30 - Chris Jericho
Shortest Stint - Trent Barretta
Longest Stint - Miz
Most Eliminations - Sheamus
Winner - Chris Jericho
Is Cena in the Rumble match?
Yeah, but he's going to be wrestling the Rock at Mania.
No. 2 (as Miz is no.1) - R-Truth (for the lolz)
No. 30 - CM Punk
Shortest Stint - Drew MacIntyre
Longest Stint - Miz
Most Eliminations - Brodus Clay
Winner - CM Punk or Ziggler. Something shocking will happen.
No. 30 - CM Punk
Shortest Stint - Drew MacIntyre
Longest Stint - Miz
Most Eliminations - Brodus Clay
Winner - CM Punk or Ziggler. Something shocking will happen.
You could make a case that the WWE title - and not the big gold belt - is the actual linear successor of the WCW/NWA title. They were unified when Flair won the Rumble in 91.
No. 2 - The Miz
No. 30 - The Undertaker (I hope!!!)
Shortest Stint - Some no-name
Longest Stint - The Miz
Most Eliminations - Kane
Winner - Chris Jericho.
No. 30 - The Undertaker (I hope!!!)
Shortest Stint - Some no-name
Longest Stint - The Miz
Most Eliminations - Kane
Winner - Chris Jericho.
They need to go back to the World title they had in 2000. Amazing that was.
Although I do like the WHC but think they should have one.
WWE Title
Intercontinental Championship
European Championship
Hardcore Title
Tag Team Championship
Womens Championship
Although I do like the WHC but think they should have one.
WWE Title
Intercontinental Championship
European Championship
Hardcore Title
Tag Team Championship
Womens Championship
I miss the 90s.
That's all.
That's all.
What about the WCW Title Booker T brought to WWF when they two companies merged?
I used to love the Hardcore Title, back when Big Show was the champ, and they had the 24 hour rule in place. He used to just wander about backstage throwing anybody who challenged him into whatever he could find. I remember him powerbombing Essa Rios through a basketball hoop.
More matches should go backstage. Falls Count Anywhere/Hardcore matches now are rubbish for the most part. They only go as far as the stage
More matches should go backstage. Falls Count Anywhere/Hardcore matches now are rubbish for the most part. They only go as far as the stage
Anyone convinced about Brodus Clay? He's like a cross between Rikishi and Prince Albert.
He seems quite light on his feet for a big fella! This gimmick will get old very quickly so it will be interesting to see where they go from there.
He's a bit cheesy when he says "shall I get him".
His dancing sucks as well. Rikishi would destroy him in a dance off. I've only started watching wrestling again since the late 90s early 2000's. Has changed immensely.
What's really starting to grate on me is the refs and how they do the same thing time after time, the whole getting distracted by someone and telling them to go to their corner and ignoring everything they are saying while the other side do something illegal... You'd assume they'd "watch replays" of the matches and become wise to this sort of thing, and not do the same thing every matchup but it just seems to be a stale repetitiveness that they are all naive and don't see what happens and never learn from it.
Even the motions they do while they are being distracted are 100% the same matchup after matchup.
Even the motions they do while they are being distracted are 100% the same matchup after matchup.
No. 2 - John Morrison (the fact that he has been acknowledged since leaving makes me hugely suspicious.)
No. 30 - Undertaker (got a strange feeling here)
Shortest Stint - Santino
Longest Stint - John Cena (naturally)
Most Eliminations - Kane
Winner - Randy Orton
No. 30 - Undertaker (got a strange feeling here)
Shortest Stint - Santino
Longest Stint - John Cena (naturally)
Most Eliminations - Kane
Winner - Randy Orton
Also, this Brodus character worked really well as a shock factor, and he seems to enjoy playing the character, which gives it some sort of credence. Don't expect it to change for a while.
Also announcing someone has broken their back is a strange move, I guess Ryder has either been a rather naughty boy or there are big plans for him and they want to scrap his current character ASAP (it is a bit crap tbf.), that said it could just be outting him down again (his rise was somewhat pathetic) to get over a Cena heel turn, making him a pawn for Cena ()
Also Vince >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurinaitis at selling moves. Fact.
Also announcing someone has broken their back is a strange move, I guess Ryder has either been a rather naughty boy or there are big plans for him and they want to scrap his current character ASAP (it is a bit crap tbf.), that said it could just be outting him down again (his rise was somewhat pathetic) to get over a Cena heel turn, making him a pawn for Cena (
)Also Vince >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurinaitis at selling moves. Fact.