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So, watching some classic Mania matches before the big event each year reminds me of how Savage/Steamboat is the most overrated match of all time.
If I cancel the network today, when will I lose it
I want to watch wmania, but I won't be watching it live and will try and watch in over mon/Tuesday following it
I want to watch wmania, but I won't be watching it live and will try and watch in over mon/Tuesday following it
If you want to cancel the network but don't want to miss mania, I can hook you up with something if you promise not to abuse it.
Really good. I laugh when he they chant "you cant wrestle" and he replies "I disagree" then "im very good" lol. Hes a good heel, and played of really well with Spud. A lot of charisma too.
I cancelled it about about two weeks ago and I don't lose access until March 30th. Got lucky!
I think it depends when you last paid for it. You'll have access until a month from your last payment.
I watched that for the first time recently. Came out of it like "...ok, that was good, but...greatest ever?"
Thank you! I just do not get why it is so overrated by people. Half the match is just Savage throwing steamboat to the outside.
Meh, you're judging 1987 by 2015 standards. It's a ridiculously large amount better than any other match from that era (which has just reminded me I really need to watch Flair Steamboat, which I always mean to watch but never get round to).
Just look at the main event from the same show, and it's a no contest.
EDIT: in fact, I'll go one further. Bret vs Shawn is raved about but is MUCH worse.
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I don't think that's the case though, at least for me, because I went and watched the Flair/Steamboat matches as well (from 1989), and I thought they were fantastic. I also watched the Razor Ramon/Shawn Michaels ladder match after having watched the likes of the Hardyz/Dudleyz/E&C matches, MITB, and that insane one in WCW featuring the Jung Dragons and 3 Count, and that was still entertaining.
Totally agree, doesn't matter about eras, it's an average match (great for the era) that has become a monster all of its own for God knows what reason.
I think it certainly stands up to Ramon/Michaels, which also had the help of a gimmick. As I mention Steamboat Flair is something I keep meaning to watch and not getting round to.
Well you've kinda just completely degraded your own point, it's great for its era, and it's still really good today, and that's the point. Look at the majority of wrestlers of today, they'll have been what, 10 at the time? A match like that which was really good and showed that wrestling didn't have to be two massively oversized lads bumping into each other repeatedly before a bodyslam and a leg drop obviously had a HUGE bearing on how they view wrestling. That's why it's viewed as it is.
In 20 years there's every chance people will have the same discussion about Cena vs Punk from MitB '11, which for me is one of the all time great matches, but stuff like that may be commonplace then.
Great for the era isn't saying much a d it's not really good today, it's average at best. I get the impact it had but it just is not that good, people call it possibly the greatest ever wrestlemania match. I could probably name 30 I'd consider better. I just do not get the hype.
Anyone hear Rey Mysterio killed someone in the ring over the weekend?
Completely inaccurate and incredibly libelous.
Really good today comes from watching it this morning and really enjoying it, that's my opinion. I don't think it is an all time great but it's above an average match, and by quite some distance, that's all.
The influence factor is what's important to remember.
Didn't he die from a blow to the head after a wrestling bout with him over the weekend?
He died from a neck injury obtained during a match Rey was one of the competitors in, likely when he messed up a spot and smacked his neck on the apron falling out of the ring.
Spot on about what Mojo said.
Yeah that's what I'm getting at, it's not an all time great and so many say it is, I just don't understand it.
Anyways...who's on Raw tonight, hoping for a good go home show before Mania.
Potentially the first Mania I might not be able to watch live in feck knows how many years. Got to be up for work at half 6. Contemplating calling in sick on the Monday, might be able to pull it off. Unless I pull an all nighter and turn up at work completely fecked 
Go for it either way. 23 was the first I watched live and haven't missed one since. Last few years (as we will be doing this year) me and my best mate get some ribs/wings in, plenty of beer and get Mania on the projector screen. Looking forward to Sunday.Potentially the first Mania I might not be able to watch live in feck knows how many years. Got to be up for work at half 6. Contemplating calling in sick on the Monday, might be able to pull it off. Unless I pull an all nighter and turn up at work completely fecked
What the iron man match? i need to rewatch now, but i think i strongly disagree.
Yes the Ironman, otherwise known as 'The Match of a Thousand Rest Holds'
I need to watch that again, i have it in my head as an absolute masterclass, i will get back to you.
I'm off to see CHIKARA in Wolverhampton next Friday. Will be the first wrestling show I've attended since...um...TNA in 2011, I think.
Fairly cool promo for Rusev....
The line about Cena training to look good reminded me of this...
The line about Cena training to look good reminded me of this...
HHH undone a button! Panic mode!
"Reigns and Lesnar going face to face for the first time since the Royal Rumble"...they didn't go face-to-face at the Royal Rumble, it was the night after. Would it kill them to double check what they are saying?
Fantastic opening segment with HHh And Sting. Got me hyped for their match at WM.
The Divas title match was brilliant. Still hoping they turn it into a fatal four way at WM.
Bryan vs Ziggler after a great showing on SD. Give them more time today please (and Ambrose hopefully as ref and its not too gimmicky)
The Divas title match was brilliant. Still hoping they turn it into a fatal four way at WM.
Bryan vs Ziggler after a great showing on SD. Give them more time today please (and Ambrose hopefully as ref and its not too gimmicky)
Axelmania > Hulkamania.
Snoop is ridiculously skinny.
Snoop is ridiculously skinny.
Axel should sing "rap is crap" as a tribute to his father.
Zeb doesn't seem happy
@gormless Well hes been tweeting in Caps for a while and ending it with @wwe too
Sick promo by Bray. done a fantastic job building for a match where his opponent is not even there.
Edit: WTF was that ending?
Edit: WTF was that ending?
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JC I cant stand Cena.....never have never will.
Final Raw before Wrestlemania and this is how they end it....
To be honest, I can't fecking wait for their match. It's going to be an absolute disaster.
To be honest, I can't fecking wait for their match. It's going to be an absolute disaster.
Fully expected them to drop the belt and start doing this:
was anyone else literally laughing at that ending? That is their final segment! That was a joke. They played tug-of-war for the title.I was going to take the day off to watch Wrestlemania live but this card and the build up have been a drag so i will watch after work.
A reminder for how exciting a Wrestlemania main event build up can be