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Wrestlemania tickets have soared since the decision was made to deliver them by airmail.
 
#maniaTicketsSalesHaveSoaredSince

Think we have a winner here :lol:
 
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Lesnar announced for Raw...I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict a Rollins cash-in throwing WM plans into wakco!
 
Lesnar announced for Raw...I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict a Rollins cash-in throwing WM plans into wakco!

Lesnar is box office. No way is Vince taking the title off him before 'mania dude.
 
I like Axel's current gimmick. Aside from this amusing thing he is doing at the moment though, he just bores me.
 
Lesnar announced for Raw...I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict a Rollins cash-in throwing WM plans into wakco!
That would make no sense surely.

But having watched bits of wwe over last couple of weeks as well as looking at a few things from the last year on the network. Roman Reigns really should be no more than a mid carder. Out of the guys from the sheild he is easily the worse of those three

Not sure why vince has such a hard on for him
 
Why is does Axel never seem to win with a Perfect-Plex? I absolutely loved that move when I was a kid.

I actually don't like the fact that hardly any of the "finishing moves" are protected anymore. Every kicks out of bloody everything.
 
Not an induction - looks like a new annual award they're giving out, named after Warrior.
 
Anyone watch TNA or any smaller, indie promotions?
Can't stand WWE. What kind of wrestling show censors all the decent moves? What's even the point in watching that?
 
Anyone watch TNA or any smaller, indie promotions?
Can't stand WWE. What kind of wrestling show censors all the decent moves? What's even the point in watching that?

Such as?

Outside of WWE, I mainly watch New Japan, I watch PWG whenever I get a chance too. Weekly shows I usually watch Lucha Underground (I am a week behind though, mainly because I REALLY don't want to see what happens with Big Ryck vs Sexy Star), I'll watch anything that stands out on the ROH weekly show, and New Japan on AXS if it's getting rave reviews and I feel like watching the match back (which given that I've watched 2 episodes isn't that often). As for weekly shows though NXT blows them all out of the water.
 
RAW is getting seriously uninteresting.

IC title is just getting thrown about and good talents like BNBV, Ambrose are rotting in midcard mindless matches without even a proper story arc.
Rollins is the now the face of Authority? And he lets himself be hoodwinked by Orton of all people. What moron came up with that climax?
Bryan, Cena, Rusev, Ziggler are all rusting away.

The only plus point is the Taker/Wyatt match. Should be epic. Even if Taker is rusty, Wyatt should be able to balance things out nicely.
 
I hate these Undertaker Rammstien like stunts. The thought of Taker sitting at home photo shopping while listening to Johnny Cash before uploading a video to dropbox for the production team really does my head in.
 
Anyone watch TNA or any smaller, indie promotions?

I don't like TNA, and haven't watched them (bar one episode) since 2012. I used to watch CHIKARA, but their break and subsequent storyline did nothing for me (although I am going to a live show in April). I'll watch NJPW or ROH when there's a big show on and I fancy watching something, but that's pretty rare.

I only really watch WWE PPVs at the moment. I'm just down on wrestling overall, really.
 
TNA has been decent this year. The problem is theyve done so much bad over the years theyve turned off a lot of people who are trying to look for an alternative.
 
That Heyman promo was awesome. Loved the line about unifying the WWE/UFC belts too. He's the only hope at making the match seem worthwhile.
 
That Heyman promo was awesome. Loved the line about unifying the WWE/UFC belts too. He's the only hope at making the match seem worthwhile.

Agree. Heyman has been awesome on the microphone the last few weeks.
 
Such as?

Outside of WWE, I mainly watch New Japan, I watch PWG whenever I get a chance too. Weekly shows I usually watch Lucha Underground (I am a week behind though, mainly because I REALLY don't want to see what happens with Big Ryck vs Sexy Star), I'll watch anything that stands out on the ROH weekly show, and New Japan on AXS if it's getting rave reviews and I feel like watching the match back (which given that I've watched 2 episodes isn't that often). As for weekly shows though NXT blows them all out of the water.
Can't say specifically, was watching it a while back and every time there was a decent throw or landing the camera quickly cut away. Could have been because it was in the morning I guess, but still fecking stupid. Would be like watching an action flick without the explosions.

I don't like TNA, and haven't watched them (bar one episode) since 2012. I used to watch CHIKARA, but their break and subsequent storyline did nothing for me (although I am going to a live show in April). I'll watch NJPW or ROH when there's a big show on and I fancy watching something, but that's pretty rare.

I only really watch WWE PPVs at the moment. I'm just down on wrestling overall, really.
I've only been watching for like a year and a half, they went through a crappy patch while they were on the road, but now they've stopped that it's got pretty good again imo, just think they need a slightly bigger roster.

I keep wanting to get into some of the smaller ones but struggle to find the time. Been to a couple HOPE shows and a Southside one recently. Southside was pretty good too, had a few TNA stars there.
 
Can't say specifically, was watching it a while back and every time there was a decent throw or landing the camera quickly cut away. Could have been because it was in the morning I guess, but still fecking stupid. Would be like watching an action flick without the explosions.


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WWE before the watershed has been cut for years and years. You need to watch it after 9pm
 
What happened to these things in the WWE?


1. During a long invested bout, not only do the wrestlers get tired, but the referee gets hurt, and at the end of it crawls across the ring slowly to make a very slow..............1....................2.......................3. This actually gave a legitimate reason for people to kick out of big finishers and amped the suspense up to 100%

2. With both wrestlers showing immense fatigue, finally one of the wrestlers hits their finishing move from nowhere, but only has enough energy to crawl on top of his opponent and drape an arm.

Nowadays, there's almost no ring psychology. Even in the infamous indy scene, there's lacking this element that was so prevailing during the 80's/90's of US wrestling.
 
What happened to these things in the WWE?


1. During a long invested bout, not only do the wrestlers get tired, but the referee gets hurt, and at the end of it crawls across the ring slowly to make a very slow..............1....................2.......................3. This actually gave a legitimate reason for people to kick out of big finishers and amped the suspense up to 100%

2. With both wrestlers showing immense fatigue, finally one of the wrestlers hits their finishing move from nowhere, but only has enough energy to crawl on top of his opponent and drape an arm.

Nowadays, there's almost no ring psychology. Even in the infamous indy scene, there's lacking this element that was so prevailing during the 80's/90's of US wrestling.
Sleeper holds with the lifting of the arm is another one. It really steadied the pace of a match and again worked into fatigue. We still have rest holds but a sleeper was an offensive move, trying to win the match.
 
Sleeper holds with the lifting of the arm is another one. It really steadied the pace of a match and again worked into fatigue. We still have rest holds but a sleeper was an offensive move, trying to win the match.

Damn, that too!

When's the last time you remembered a fatigued ref slow count off the top of your head?

Top rope moves too....I used to love the way RvD would sell the splash, hold his belly for a moment, and then crawl over. Nowadays, they hit the move and they're right up. It actually takes away from the weight of the impact to the viewer when they do this.
 
Hate it when wrestlers just trade off big moves, get two counts, then pop right back up for the next thing. A few indies take it to stupid levels.

Although the no-sell can actually work well in rare occasions. Forget who it was, but some guy in NJPW took a German Suplex, and just got straight back up all "RAAAAAAAAAAAARGH" - it actually looked really cool then.
 
I'm surprised that nobody uses a "sleeper" as a finisher nowadays, seeing as loads of Mma fights are decided by rear naked choke and the audience now know it's a legit finish.

There's a few, cool looking submission fairly commonly used in MMA which are hardly ever used in pro wrestling. Why does nobody use a triangle Choke?
 
Hate it when wrestlers just trade off big moves, get two counts, then pop right back up for the next thing. A few indies take it to stupid levels.

Although the no-sell can actually work well in rare occasions. Forget who it was, but some guy in NJPW took a German Suplex, and just got straight back up all "RAAAAAAAAAAAARGH" - it actually looked really cool then.

As a fan of the Young Bucks I have to disagree in part here, but there's very few talents anywhere that can do what they do, and it's a complete spectacle because they are so fecking good at it.

I'm surprised that nobody uses a "sleeper" as a finisher nowadays, seeing as loads of Mma fights are decided by rear naked choke and the audience now know it's a legit finish.

There's a few, cool looking submission fairly commonly used in MMA which are hardly ever used in pro wrestling. Why does nobody use a triangle Choke?

Dolph used to use the sleeper as a finish and it made him look like the biggest geek in wrestling history. Well, that and the fact that he is generally one of the biggest geeks in wrestling history.

As for the Triangle, Undertaker has the Hells Gate which I suppose is more of a Gogoplata but still looks very similar to the untrained eye, enough for them not to give it to anyone yet (in WWE at least), I'm pretty sure I've seen ReDRagon use Triangle chokes but they do have an MMA gimmick (although not as good as Double J Double M A as a gimmick). Charlotte Flair is probably the closest outside of Taker and ReDRagon, but she's just generally terrible (and it's not a finish anyway)