Television Tho Prop Grops Throps

The idea seems to be that Roman needs to be a badass, which is exactly how he comes across without Vince's scripting. I mean, everyone could see it was the best thing to do, and they seem to have realised now. Bryan is collateral to the main story.

He does - but it could do without Triple H and Stephanie having a snigger at how much of an idiot he is to give up his shot (if anything, he could have been the one to offer it?) - the bit where he was shouting at Bryan to get out of his locker-room was weird too, felt more like a whinge then him being a badass.

The run in on Show at the end is the shit that he should be doing - got a great pop and easily the best reaction he's had in months.

Bryan wasn't much better either - again, at times he seemed to be more whinging then actually being a fighting hero/face.
 
He was being pushed like this, but the reaction was unanimously negative so they pulled the plug. Roman however…

Makn event of Mania will only be Reigns 3rd singles match at a PPV, which is just nuts, his booking can't be compared to Rocky Maivia, who was in the IC title picture. Doing the same thing with Reigns couldn't have hurt, there's no rush.
 
Makn event of Mania will only be Reigns 3rd singles match at a PPV, which is just nuts, his booking can't be compared to Rocky Maivia, who was in the IC title picture. Doing the same thing with Reigns couldn't have hurt, there's no rush.

Brock Lesnar's contract expires in 2 months.

So yes, there is a rush.
 
He does - but it could do without Triple H and Stephanie having a snigger at how much of an idiot he is to give up his shot (if anything, he could have been the one to offer it?) - the bit where he was shouting at Bryan to get out of his locker-room was weird too, felt more like a whinge then him being a badass.

He's confident enough to fancy his chances in these fight I guess. Kicking people out of your dressing room is something badass babyfaces have done all along.

The run in on Show at the end is the shit that he should be doing - got a great pop and easily the best reaction he's had in months.

Bryan wasn't much better either - again, at times he seemed to be more whinging then actually being a fighting hero/face.

That run in was fantastic. Bryan's character has always been a whinger tbf. Just look back at his entire 2013/2014.
 
Brock Lesnar's contract expires in 2 months.

So yes, there is a rush.

Bryan, Rollins, hell even Rusev would have been better champions at the moment if Brock leaves. There would only be a rush if there was no one other than Reigns.
 
He's confident enough to fancy his chances in these fight I guess. Kicking people out of your dressing room is something badass babyfaces have done all along.

Have they? Don't think The Rock, Stone Cold, Punk or even Cena would do the same - they're meant to be too cool to let it bother them.

That run in was fantastic. Bryan's character has always been a whinger tbf. Just look back at his entire 2013/2014.

Fair point.

I wonder if they're booking themselves a route for all possibilities (Reigns winning, Reigns losing, Reigns turning) ... which could lead to some weird (but fun) tele.
 
I wonder if they're booking themselves a route for all possibilities (Reigns winning, Reigns losing, Reigns turning) ... which could lead to some weird (but fun) tele.

It'd be a massive shock if he doesnt win at FastLane. Him winning via shenanigans is possible. They could get loads of heat for him siding with the Authority, would play into the already existing idea of him being an undeserving, corporate handpicked champion. Rollins is such an awesome heel already though so I think its more likely he'll win cleanly in an attempt to make him more credible. If Lesnar stays it'd be more viable I guess.
 
It'd be a massive shock if he doesnt win at FastLane. Him winning via shenanigans is possible. They could get loads of heat for him siding with the Authority, would play into the already existing idea of him being an undeserving, corporate handpicked champion. Rollins is such an awesome heel already though so I think its more likely he'll win cleanly in an attempt to make him more credible. If Lesnar stays it'd be more viable I guess.

He's definitely winning at Fast Lane - but wouldn't surprise me if they keep second guessing themselves.

I just don't know how they can have a match with Roman and Bryan and not expect Bryan to be the clear fan favourite...
 
Watching RAW now the first segment was really cool, I thought Reigns did his part well the crowd cheered him too. Rollins has improved on the mic since he first started as well. I think Bryan will put Reigns over big time and make him look good so that the fans fully back him an Mania.
 
Cesaro as new bond? It's a good gimmick

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It makes me sad that in 2015 Big Show and Kane are still the top monster characters, doing all the authority's work, when there's guys like Luke Harper on the roster. He looked fantastic against Ryback.
 
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"Don't change the channel."

There's a meta/fourth wall breaking gimmick waiting to be exploited and Axel is just the man to do it.
 
Rollins and Bryan had a great TV match, those can go! Imagine what they could do in given more time and hopefully they get that somewhere down the line.

I am really interested to see what they'll do with Reigns vs Bryan hopefully it'll be a good one and Reigns steps up with his ring work.
 
Raw was really entertaining. I didnt like Reigns losing to Big Show because it means another Reigns vs Big Show match bleh. Im just hoping Reigns destroys Big Show next week and thats the end of that.
Reigns / Bryan blurring the line was a good idea imo. PPVs usually have "smarkier" crowds vs the general Raw crowds given its a sunday night. But it will be interesting to see the reaction for Reigns vs Bryan at the PPV. Reigns can go either way now. Also agreed with @phelans shorts
His promos are much better when he speaks himself, and like a man rather than Vinces over scripted disney comedy stuff that makes no sense.

Luke harper vs ryback
Ziggler vs Bray
Rollins vs Bryan
were all really good matches and that was given time to develop and let the fans get into it.

Can see from last week SD and this weeks promo, Bray planting the seeds to call out Taker. The result of that match will be interesting because Taker losing 2 in a row at WM would be weird, but if Taker wins, Bray will look like a real idiot (who will also lose 2 in a row at WM in big time matches)

Theyre also planting seeds for Mizdow vs Miz (hopefully Mizdow doesnt go the way of Alex Riley when he breaks free) and Stardust vs Goldust.

Also Cena is the worst friend to have. He never comes out to rescue you. He just let Rowan get destroyed lol.
 
Also Cena is the worst friend to have. He never comes out to rescue you. He just let Rowan get destroyed lol.

"Thanks for being there for me John" said Rowan just before being left to fend for himself. Even if Cena doesn't want to save Rowan, he's meant to be feuding with Rusev, so surely he'd want to spoil Rusev's fun?

I quite like Rowan though. He's not great in the ring, but there's something about his chill persona that's really likable.
 
Can see Bray/Undertaker not being an actual match but some kind of confrontation that allows Undertaker to be written off in a suitable way once and for all while putting Brat over big time as the man who finally vanquished Taker.

Also looks like we will get Gold vs Stardust, Miz vs Mizdow. Still think Ziggler Vs Bryan, Reigns vs Lesnar, Rollins vs Orton, Sting vs Triple H, Cena vs Rusev, Battle Royal and a Tag Title Match (Usos vs Kane & Big Show/Ascension/Cesaro & Kidd).

The other option is have Reigns lose, have him name Rock for interfering in the first place and have Rock vs Rollins and Bryan vs Lesnar.

Edit: Having looked at that card there's too many singles matches...maybe we get Bryan vs Reigns vs Lesnar.
 
Can see Bray/Undertaker not being an actual match but some kind of confrontation that allows Undertaker to be written off in a suitable way once and for all while putting Brat over big time as the man who finally vanquished Taker.

Also looks like we will get Gold vs Stardust, Miz vs Mizdow. Still think Ziggler Vs Bryan, Reigns vs Lesnar, Rollins vs Orton, Sting vs Triple H, Cena vs Rusev, Battle Royal and a Tag Title Match (Usos vs Kane & Big Show/Ascension/Cesaro & Kidd).

The other option is have Reigns lose, have him name Rock for interfering in the first place and have Rock vs Rollins and Bryan vs Lesnar.

Edit: Having looked at that card there's too many singles matches...maybe we get Bryan vs Reigns vs Lesnar.

They have 4 hours PLUS a 2 hour preshow, they'll have plenty of spots for the Rhodes match and Miz's that's not on the card itself.
 
Austins podcast with HHH was fun.
Mentioned Chyna and Hall of Fame and the difficulties with it.
Also mentioned the scripted promos, HHH being in charge of NXT and what HHH would change to Raw (would love it to be 2 hours and have more slow burning stories)

"Thanks for being there for me John" said Rowan just before being left to fend for himself. Even if Cena doesn't want to save Rowan, he's meant to be feuding with Rusev, so surely he'd want to spoil Rusev's fun?

I quite like Rowan though. He's not great in the ring, but there's something about his chill persona that's really likable.

Yeah haha. In fact even during the Survivor Series run up, he just always let his partners get beat up.

If this was a normal TV show, this would end with Cena being the "face of the company" for the Authority.
 
They have 4 hours PLUS a 2 hour preshow, they'll have plenty of spots for the Rhodes match and Miz's that's not on the card itself.
Not time I'm worried about, its variety. There's no real multi-man matches, it's hard to have that many singles matches and make each of them stand out in their own way. As it stands I'd go (in Order)...

Pre-show:
The Usos vs Kane & Big Show
Miz vs Mizdow

Main Show:
Bryan vs Ziggler
Undertaker/Wyatt Confrontation
Goldust vs Stardust
Rollins vs Orton
Battle Royal (The Ascension, Ryback, Rowan, Harper, Cesaro, Kidd, Swagger, Kofi, Big E, Barrett, Ambrose, Jimmy, Jey, Big Show, Kane, Miz, Mizdow + Jobbers and a few NXT guys)
Cena vs Rusev
Triple H vs Sting
Paige vs Natalya vs Nikki Bella vs Brie Bella
Lesnar vs Reigns
 
Owens vs Zayn
Balor vs Neville

On WWE TV...what the shit?

@phelans shorts WE'RE IN BIZARRO WORLD MAGGLE!!!

The latter is no surprise, Trips favourite match ever innit.

Zayn vs Owens however just seems mental. Both are exactly what WWE don't look for in signees.

Don't even get me started on commentary. feck Alex Riley. feck Corey Graves. feck Jason Albert. feck Renee Young. You know quality is awful when RICH BRENNAN is the best they have ffs.

EDIT: the match, for anyone interested

 
Owens vs Zayn
Balor vs Neville

On WWE TV...what the shit?

@phelans shorts WE'RE IN BIZARRO WORLD MAGGLE!!!
Nxt was excellent again this week. The two above matches, Corbin/Dempsey and the women's title plus probably a tag title rematch and Hideo vs Kidd maybe? Cannot wait for takeover.
 
Listened to the first part of the steve austin/HHH podcast and I was suprised with how honest HHH was. I need to listen to the rest of it though.
 
Really interested to see who goes over in the Zayn - Owens feud. Could see Owens taking the title with Sami moving up to the main roster after Mania.
 
Id be a little worried about how they are going to incorporate some of these guys into the main roster and how they present them. Adrian Neville is a big worry because id never ever see Vince having him near the main event.
 
Id be a little worried about how they are going to incorporate some of these guys into the main roster and how they present them. Adrian Neville is a big worry because id never ever see Vince having him near the main event.

There's a very good reason for that, he's just not a main eventer. He never has been in any promotion, barring NXT, where he was only in that role as he was the least likely of the top 6 or so guys to get the call up at that time.

Great wrestler, but not a top end guy, he just doesn't have the charisma for it.
 
@phelans shorts
Which is fair enough, but I dont even think he would be given a shot at that. Granted his accent is very off putting. But given he wouldnt be given a chance, it does make you think what would happen to him if he got called up. Id say the same for Finn because of his accent and how he sounds. Hideo too.

Even without those guys, Zayn and Owens arent exactly guys that scream "Vince will push them".
 
@phelans shorts
Which is fair enough, but I dont even think he would be given a shot at that. Granted his accent is very off putting. But given he wouldnt be given a chance, it does make you think what would happen to him if he got called up. Id say the same for Finn because of his accent and how he sounds. Hideo too.

Even without those guys, Zayn and Owens arent exactly guys that scream "Vince will push them".

Well that he wouldn't get a shot is a pretty ridiculous thing to throw out there, plenty of guys that would never get pushed have been, just look at Rey Mysterio or Shawn Michael or CM Punk etc... Neville will be put in there at upper midcard level and probably never really advance because, quite bluntly, that's his level.

The other names are interesting as to where they end up, Finn has that superstar aura that Neville is missing, and he also has the body of a Greek god, which will no doubt help. These things combined will probably see him move up no problem.

Hideo has always been a big fish in a small pond, Trips in particular is desperate to expand into Japan so we'll probably see him stick around that upper midcard, again the charisma just doesn't seem to be there, that being said I'm willing to give him the chance to adapt and learn English before saying he hasn't got that ability.

Zayn might not have the look but he makes Daniel Bryan look like the most hateable guy on earth, has a far more WWE style of wrestling and can talk much better. No chance he doesn't end up at the very top.

Owens has more question marks than Zayn but I'm pretty confident he'll largely be up there. Big question is whether they tone him down, he really shouldn't be doing most of his indie stuff anymore, he's far too big to be breaking out suicide dives like he used to on the regular.
 
This is up there with the best they've ever done. It makes you just want to see Zayn kick Owens head off.


So good. I just can't understand how NXT is so much better then WWE, how does this happen? if you take the two main events from their next two big shows.

NXT Takeover - Sami Zayn Vs Kevin Owens for the NXT championship/

WWE Fast lane - Daniel Bryan Vs Roman Reigns for a spot in the Wrestlemania main event.

I know which one i am more excited about.
 
Well that he wouldn't get a shot is a pretty ridiculous thing to throw out there, plenty of guys that would never get pushed have been, just look at Rey Mysterio or Shawn Michael or CM Punk etc... Neville will be put in there at upper midcard level and probably never really advance because, quite bluntly, that's his level.

The other names are interesting as to where they end up, Finn has that superstar aura that Neville is missing, and he also has the body of a Greek god, which will no doubt help. These things combined will probably see him move up no problem.

Hideo has always been a big fish in a small pond, Trips in particular is desperate to expand into Japan so we'll probably see him stick around that upper midcard, again the charisma just doesn't seem to be there, that being said I'm willing to give him the chance to adapt and learn English before saying he hasn't got that ability.

Zayn might not have the look but he makes Daniel Bryan look like the most hateable guy on earth, has a far more WWE style of wrestling and can talk much better. No chance he doesn't end up at the very top.

Owens has more question marks than Zayn but I'm pretty confident he'll largely be up there. Big question is whether they tone him down, he really shouldn't be doing most of his indie stuff anymore, he's far too big to be breaking out suicide dives like he used to on the regular.

I think Rey, Michaels, Punk are exception to the rule rather than the rule though.
Mysterio more so got his chance at the top after Eddie passed and when there was more of a SD vs Raw split. PLus when he first came in he had a division he could slot into.
Punks promos took him to the next level.
Dont think its fair to compare anybody to HBK either.

I really do think Neville will struggle the most out of them all.

Zayn probably has the best chance of them all.
 
Zayn's theme alone will make him a superstar.
I was thinking about this earlier. Most of the guys on NXT really have good theme music. Zayn, Finn, Hideo, even the Divas. Really suits their characters.
 
Michaels?

For one thing, he's not that small. He got slimmer in his 40's, but he was bulkier during his Rockers days and muscular and defined in his HBK days up until 2005. He's about 6 foot bang on, too, not to mention an absolute mountain of charisma and talent.

Comparisons between HBK and whether Neville, Hideo and co make it seems an unfair one considering the overall spectrum of talent Michaels possessed in all areas, which favoured him considerably.
 
So I am a little tipsy and signed up for the network...at least I think few is free of charge?

I might even keep it for wmania

It's very fecking good, I would have killed a man for this a few years ago. Just watched angle v Lesner from mania 2003

Reminded of that shooting star press gone wrong. Man that was awesome
 
I wish the network would come to Australia just so I could watch the old matches and stuff.
 
I wish the network would come to Australia just so I could watch the old matches and stuff.
I'm currently watching the 1990 survivor series

When I was a kid I had this on tape and used to watch it all the time

Undertaker just about to make his debut