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I've just given reasons for my opinions, and all you can come back with is "you obviously arent a smart fan", including basic grammar feck ups.
This place hasn't changed a bit.
I was taking the piss. I didnt expect you to give a shit. A "smart fan" was a term used among wrasslin fans years ago not sure if it is still used today or not
I've just given reasons for my opinions, and all you can come back with is "you obviously arent a smart fan", including basic grammar feck ups.
This place hasn't changed a bit.
Seriously though, do other forums posters have better grammar? That is important to me
NXT Payback is on tonight, folks.
Really looking forward to Neville vs. Kidd on that show. I've been an admirer of Kidd's for a long time now, and I'm glad they've put him on a show where he can shine, rather than keep him about as a jobber on RAW or Smackdown.
As far as Payback goes, I'm excited to see Sheamus vs. Cesaro. I've always felt Sheamus works best when paired with stronger/bigger wrestlers, and Cesaro is the best wrestler in WWE at the moment, imo. The six man tag will hopefully be a fun brawl. Sadly I couldn't care less about RVD vs. Barrett, as RVD has bored me for the past several years.
Really looking forward to Neville vs. Kidd on that show. I've been an admirer of Kidd's for a long time now, and I'm glad they've put him on a show where he can shine, rather than keep him about as a jobber on RAW or Smackdown.
As far as Payback goes, I'm excited to see Sheamus vs. Cesaro. I've always felt Sheamus works best when paired with stronger/bigger wrestlers, and Cesaro is the best wrestler in WWE at the moment, imo. The six man tag will hopefully be a fun brawl. Sadly I couldn't care less about RVD vs. Barrett, as RVD has bored me for the past several years.
Cesaro need a better finisher. That Neutralizer thing is garbage.
Plus it does look like he is Havin a good reach around while he's setting up
I agree. It's a move that can show off how strong he is by lifting anyone (I think he's done it to Big Show, Henry and Khali) but there isn't enough of an impact to really consider it a big move.
He should use this...
What about this?
That's just a shitty looking power bomb.
He should start using the stone cold stunner and then Steve Austin should come out of retirement in outrage and work a program with him.
He should start using the stone cold stunner and then Steve Austin should come out of retirement in outrage and work a program with him.
Yeah, that, but perhaps keep the Neutralizer for the tubbos.I agree. It's a move that can show off how strong he is by lifting anyone (I think he's done it to Big Show, Henry and Khali) but there isn't enough of an impact to really consider it a big move.
He should use this...
Tickets for November uk tour go on sale tomorrow morning, gonna try get tickets to brighton center house show. Only a 4500 capacity though I think
I think that the people that are longing for the attitude era don't watch enough of today's product.
Of course it's been tamed quite a bit but they have also done a lot more to protect their talent, such as banning chair shots to the head, introducing the wellness policy and generally looking after the talent better.
Then you have the quality of the matches they are currently producing. Bray Wyatt was very nearly a victim of creative early on in his wwe career and not is the best talker the company have, the shield are going from strength to strength and all three members will be main event talent. Cesaro and Daniel Bryan and phenomenal and the stars coming through from NXT are being developed and will continue to carry the ball for years.
I loved the attitude era and admit that 2002 - 2010 was poor in large chunks, but to write off today's product as rubbish is absolute bollocks IMHO.
Of course it's been tamed quite a bit but they have also done a lot more to protect their talent, such as banning chair shots to the head, introducing the wellness policy and generally looking after the talent better.
Then you have the quality of the matches they are currently producing. Bray Wyatt was very nearly a victim of creative early on in his wwe career and not is the best talker the company have, the shield are going from strength to strength and all three members will be main event talent. Cesaro and Daniel Bryan and phenomenal and the stars coming through from NXT are being developed and will continue to carry the ball for years.
I loved the attitude era and admit that 2002 - 2010 was poor in large chunks, but to write off today's product as rubbish is absolute bollocks IMHO.
Sami Zayn's new theme. I think it's great, way better than his last one.
I like the intro but then it goes into what sounds like a boss level theme from an awful N64 game.
Tyler Breeze's new theme on the other hand...
I'm going Neville, Breeze, Rose, Los Lucha, Charlotte as tonights winner, and Rusev/Rawley if they HAVE to throw a squash match on there.
'Cept its just ska, not anime music.
But it still sounds boppy. It reminds me of Yoshi Tatsu's theme in a way.
Heel theme for Breeze, had to be done. Too over.
Hopefully they give Zayn something proper when he's called up.
If anyone thinks the current product is unwatchable, just watch NXT Takeover from last night.
What. A. Show.
Payback could be one of the best PPVs ever and still end up being in its shadow.
What. A. Show.
Payback could be one of the best PPVs ever and still end up being in its shadow.
Thinking about it, has any Diva ever had better entrance music than Paige? Only Lita's comes to mind as half decent.
Better than Paige, I'd doubt it. As you say, Lita's was good(I really liked it tbh), Stacy Keibler had Kid Rock's quite enjoyable cover of Legs. Kharma's was brilliant, in that it so perfectly fit.
You could include Chyna too, as she used the DX Theme, the Corporations theme, and HHH's "My Time" at different points.
Up to the main event atm, had to comment on Natalya vs Charlotte. Brilliant. Utterly fecking brilliant.
I used to think Steve Austin had the best entrance music until I learned that Big Show's was sung by Michael Hayes and now I can't hear it without imagining him belting it it out with his eyes closed, fists clenched and mullet flying all over the place....
I forgot she existed. It was wonderful.
It's odd that Charlotte Flair is more masculine than Ric ever was.
Main Event of Takeover was immense.
Going in to that I was hoping Charlotte would keep up her run of alright matches, but they stole the show completely. Maybe it's because the expectations were lower but christ it was good. Even Bret was enthused.
Well, it's not his rest face at least, that's a lot for Bret.
Flair vs Bret was no contest as far as charisma went.
Sorry but today's product is utter tripe compared to the attitude era, your entitled to your opinion but sorry facts are facts... there isn't a single damn wrestler today who could lace the boots of Kurt Angle (an olympic gold medal winning wrestler), Even Benoit or The Hart Family!!! Kenta, Bray, The Prince or even the God like figure of Punk (who loved the biz so much he turned his back on it)... PS don't give me excuses like he was banged up, what wrestler isn't? He doesn't give £uck about wrestling
There was clearly defined characters in the AE, the characters we're arguably the greatest to ever grace the business too from any generation... there was something there for everyone...
So the talent was better, no doubt...
The characters we're clearly better...having honed their talents across the world in all kinds of organisations, giving them the time to learn their trade and develop their characters.
Just because they had chair shots to the head you say it pales in comparison? That they didn't know how to sell / or gave up... which is simply not true at all!
Ps: This years WM was enjoyable alright mind you, top 5 maybe... no doubt the two greatest WM shows of all time come from the AE, WM17 & without a doubt WM19 is the greatest of all time!!
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Can we define when the attitude era ended? I find this tends to differ person to person.
There was also a lot of shite and utter dross in the Attitude Era.
On a side note, do you have to use so many exclamation marks?
Force of habit! Everyone has their own habits with typing.
There was a lot of shite sure, but some of it still was enjoyable to a degree too... some one mentioned it a page or two back about the comedy spots around that time, they we're priceless.
Tbh, never really considered Angle(or Jericho etc, etc) as part of the Attitude Era.
At the very least Angle peaked well after it ended.
Angle debuted during Attitude Era, undoubtedly. By the time Invasion was coming around Attitude Era was dying out. It was still more young adult oriented but was clearly changing. Angles best came after Attitude though, him and Brock!!!
according to the official wwe website.. they say 96-02!
Kinda makes sense to some degree, the famous Austin 3:16 speech at the KOTR! That was when it began to change alright... 2002 was the beginning of the Ruthless Aggression era began... not really sure what that meant but still very enjoyable around that time! Arguably the greatest technical matches happened around then, Angle, Benoit, Guerraro, Jericho and Lesnar we're really at the top of their game then!
Oh definitely, as did Jericho and co, but I never considered them major players of the era.
I guess the area I differ most is, I think of the Invasion as the start of the next era, or a transition, not part of Attitude itself.
Attitude era had shit for the sake of it at times though, I don't think that can be argued. Hell in a kennel, ladder match for Terri Runnels, Big Show's daddy. feck me man, that while hugely entertaining at the time, you look back on and think...hang on a minute. Ruthless aggression began to move towards in ring action being what carried things and reduced a lot of gimmick matches. Then they lost their way again. I'd say the 2002 until it not being on Sky 1 anymore was some of the best.
The current product is much better in ring than it has been in recent years, it struggles in terms of giving stories to the undercard though. That is something the Attitude Era had in spades. The fact that any good comedy promo is on "the app" is a pain in the hole too.