Collision just keeps getting better and better for me, another great show with a brilliant main event - for the first time in ages not only did I not know who was going to win, I didn't know who I wanted to win.
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Any idea of where to watch the Wembley show or any match as of yet?
Anyone got a link to the new Cody doc?
RIP the exotic Adrien Street.
Sad that he's gone, very glad WWE made a right fuss over him when they were in Cardiff earlier this year.
This was brilliant.
Shame about all of the build that came before it.
Finally getting round to watching Cody's doc.
Vince only back with WWE and the headlines are back about him. He really should have stayed retired
I think it's been one of the less crappy builds for summerslam and that video package was the only remotely decent thing on Raw. The problem is I just can't envisage the match being any good. I mean is it going to be a fake mma fight? Or a real one? The former will be dumb and the latter will just be sub standard UFC.
Summerslam is looking quite meh in general for me. Nearly all the matches have had such terrible or lazy build and there's a lot of people not even on the card. No Ripley, Sami, Lynch. A bunch of others chucked in a completely irrelevant battle royal.
The Cody v Brock stuff is so tedious. It made no sense to begin with and they've dragged it out for 4 months.
I'm quite behind on wrestling so trying to catch up.
But summerslam is tonight. Feel like I've really been out the loop and need to try catch up
But summerslam is tonight. Feel like I've really been out the loop and need to try catch up
Really love the way Gunther has been presented. For sure a future world champion.
Jimmy turns on Jey! Storyline getting confusing now and Roman bailed out again. Got to be brother v brother and Cody v Roman at Wrestlemania.
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Got the feeling this was the night the Bloodliny story jumped the shark. I felt bored by the finish, it doesnt make sense at all.
After every ppv we’re told Roman should have lost and after every ppv that’s proven wrong time and time again.
I don’t watch it but it’s clearly pointing to the bloodline fatal four way and it deserves to by all accounts.
I don’t watch it but it’s clearly pointing to the bloodline fatal four way and it deserves to by all accounts.
Of course he was going to get bailed out. Roman won’t lose the belt unless it’s at Mania, particularly with it being this long and historic.
Why wait 8 months for Jimmy vs Jey and not the next ppv? It’ll be silly to stretch it out that long unless one of them end up getting injured long term.
They've literally had to create a new title to replace one of the titles Roman still has, and this was the first time he's defended them since WM, in a match it was 100% known he wouldn't lose.
It might work for the Bloodline angle, but it's killing everything else. There are zero credible contenders, and as a result we have battle royal matches on tier 1 ppvs that are to win a packet of slim jims or something ffs.
And actually Roman's titles have been pretty irrelevant to the Bloodline story too until about the last 3 weeks.
Maybe I'm being picky but the main event of the WWE's biggest show outside of WM shouldn't be a token tv show level title match. Especially if the title is only defended once every 5 months.
Now they can bring Zayn back into it. Expect a save and tag team reform.
Roman was never losing, but they could at least have given him a real win for the first time in years, instead it's the same match and finish as always, except this time it doesn't make any sense.
I don’t watch it so can’t really comment much but they’re creating so many stars away from the Bloodline angle that I don’t think this quite adds up.
The ppvs seem to be of the highest quality and are generally praised so I just can’t see how the product is being harmed at all.
This is what the people want to see and that’s all WWE cares about. Every one of their ppv under this angle seems to break every record going
The finish is random as feck and doesn't make any logical sense, but the stories been so good they've earned the right to let them cook IMO.
Summerslam was decent but that ending was absolutely awful
Feels like they’ve run out of ideas because it made zero sense
Feels like they’ve run out of ideas because it made zero sense
This was a great exchange and LA Knight maybe getting that push now. Miz fired back well though. Great pop for Knight when coming in as well.
I think they've just got a hard on for Roman Reigns because he's got the size and look and they can't think of anything else to do at this point. Seems he's been cheesing his way through for so long that they've forgotten he can actually lose. Stilted wrestling and pretty crap on the mic. Was pretty boring watching his slow pace and grandstanding about the ring, feel like he got carried in terms of in ring entertainment value.
First I've seen of Logan Paul wrestling. Expected him to be a big bag of shite but wow, talented athlete. Fair play to the fella.
Most of the action was pretty good except for Roman and the Rousey match was lame as hell.
First I've seen of Logan Paul wrestling. Expected him to be a big bag of shite but wow, talented athlete. Fair play to the fella.
Most of the action was pretty good except for Roman and the Rousey match was lame as hell.
Yeah they've got a bunch of stars who all have no title to go for because its glued to Roman, who there is no credible opponent for because he isn't allowed to lose. It dumb and really quite boring.
The bloodline stuff has been good in fairness but they could have done that and had Roman drop one of the titles very easily, instead of creating a third title to replace the one Roman still has, which makes absolutely no sense.
I mean its wrestling so the stories don't have to make sense, but the titles should do. They are supposed to have some kind of meaning as that's the entire point of having titles/belts. If one person has both of the world titles and is untouchable, and then another pity title is created as a result, they're all pretty meaningless. They might as well have just given Rollins a replica world title from a toy store. Just my view but I think its all super dumb and its meant I've watched a lot less since Mania.
The PPVs have been pretty decent I'll give you that, but that's because they've got a lot of talent who can put on great matches and have played to the location/audience pretty well. The TV shows I find god awful apart from the bloodline segments which are now reaching the inevitable point where it starts getting silly and worn out...not a problem in itself as its done well to last this long, but there's nowhere to go with Roman so they're going to have to drag it out all the way until Mania again probably.
The bloodline stuff has been mostly what we're getting right now, repetitive and stale. They caught lightning in a bottle by throwing Sami into the mix, mostly because he's so damn entertaining and made everybody break character, but the momentum that he and Cody brought to the angle has been wasted and now it's back to going around in a circle. Roman's part time schedule doesn't help either (although it does help mask how they've already fed everyone to him).
It’s only three weeks ago when they got 3m tuning in for a Bloodline segment. If anything the angle has gotten hotter since Sami left.
I understand the frustration with WWE but they aren’t posting record numbers in terms of attendance, merch etc if they were just going around in circles.
The main event is supposed to drive the show and that’s exactly what they’re doing. It’s allowed them to give the mid card and co main events a little more leeway and those wrestlers have taken that opportunity and shone.
Again, I dont really watch it and pick up snippets here and there but even to me it’s clear as day that they’re firing on all cylinders.
Was this your first wrestling show in atleast 4 years? Cus all that is true of Roman 4 years ago sure, certainly not now.
If you're suggesting that there isn't any room for improvement, then there isn't much of a conversation to be had. The highs of the bloodline stuff are extremely high, but the lows were pretty low, and the latest swerve is nonsensical, and the omens are pretty bad that it'll go round in circles again for a while.
I've still enjoyed the segments but I think the last few leading up to summerslam did feel like it's really run its course....and now with the Jimmy/Jay thing it's kind of reached the maximum nonsense capacity.
Feels a bit like the point in the Austin/Mcmahon saga when Undertaker was trying to take over wwe from Vince and give it to the "higher power" and then the higher power turned out to be Vince. Once the silliness starts eating its own tail you kind of have to accept its run its course.
I'm not sure 4.5 hours of dull TV a week and capping all your main eventers as permanently sub main event to Roman, is worth it either for 1 good segment a week (or sometimes 0 segments when Roman isn't working). It's hard to care about the main events or half hour matches they chuck in the middle of Raw/Smackdown when there's nothing riding on them and nowhere to advance anyone to from them.
What lows?
First PPV, yes.
Just saying what I see, his wrestling style is totally boring, does the same things over and over. Don't think he's any good at talking either. "Acknowledge me" while looking tough. That's the best he can do?
I think the script is carrying him rather than him taking the storyline on. It's a good story they've got going.
Yeah no, this is a totally outdated point of view at this point of his career. He's rightly won over plaudits and got himself over by all accounts. Has the best title reign and best storyline in the modern area to his name too. You can no longer say he's boring with a straight face.
What are you talking about a straight face? It's an opinion on a piece of entertainment not a set of objective parameters
The funny thing is you hint that it's me being disingenuous with that comment but it's more likely you are putting forward an agenda driven opinion than me because you have this historical reference about fan sentiment from 4 years ago that I'm not even aware of. Maybe you're overcompensating in your own views, who knows. Just saying what I see according to my preferences, it's no more deep than that.
Most of the story pre-Sami, along with the huge gaps between Roman actually showing up.
Terrible takes all-round today.
Where can I buy finn balors purple air force? They're fecking fly.
Where can I buy finn balors purple air force? They're fecking fly.
All round includes you as well, you realise?
What are you talking about a straight face? It's an opinion on a piece of entertainment not a set of objective parameters
The funny thing is you hint that it's me being disingenuous with that comment but it's more likely you are putting forward an agenda driven opinion than me because you have this historical reference about fan sentiment from 4 years ago that I'm not even aware of. Maybe you're overcompensating in your own views, who knows. Just saying what I see according to my preferences, it's no more deep than that.
Salford is very sensitive to criticism of Roman or the Bloodline, you aren't the first to have a comment jumped on with a hyperbole loaded response. I half agree with you, Roman is still pretty bland on the mic, and he's wrestled the same match every time he shows up for a few years now, but his character work has improved immeasurably and he carries himself so much better than he used to. The success of the Bloodline story though has been down to Jay and Sami more than anyone though, at least in my book.
No, definitely not. There is no Bloodline story or success what so ever without Reigns. He’s hands down been the stand out performer of the last two or so years with his character work.
I think they honestly wanted The Rock in there with him but it just never managed to materialise. Now I don’t think there’s any doubt that they’re doing a long story with Cody to have him be the one to dethrone Roman at Wrestlemania next year. It’s been a fantastic story overall with everybody involved and I’m confident it all comes to an end at Wrestlemania.
Not really understanding why people are saying the Jey and Jimmy stuff makes no sense. If you’ve watched regular then you’ve seen plenty of stuff dropped to give reasons behind the turn. Also, maybe, just maybe let them explain it all before saying it makes no sense? There’s a lot to complain about with the WWE but imo this story isn’t one of them. In fact it’s crazy thatthey’ve managed to make it such a hot story for so long.