Really enjoyed that
Great event with a crazy crowd!
Great event with a crazy crowd!
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Very good PPV, actually felt like a big deal with big moments unlike Clash at the Castle.
Yep same here. Crowd was brilliant, pretty much why Mania needs to come to London
I was at Cardiff and a main event like tonight's would have made it so much better.
Most I've enjoyed a WWE PPV in a very long time, and they've generally been knocking them out of the park since Mania.
Women's ladder match would have stolen most shows but the Cena segment and main event will overshadow it.
Also thought Proest was the correct winner of the men's match. LA Knight is great but if they've got any sense they won't need to give him motb to push him.
They won't have sent Cena out to say all that for nothing either. Must have seen the AEW ticket numbers and be seriously considering it. They know they could charge 3x as much for Mania and still sell out Wembley.
Women's ladder match would have stolen most shows but the Cena segment and main event will overshadow it.
Also thought Proest was the correct winner of the men's match. LA Knight is great but if they've got any sense they won't need to give him motb to push him.
They won't have sent Cena out to say all that for nothing either. Must have seen the AEW ticket numbers and be seriously considering it. They know they could charge 3x as much for Mania and still sell out Wembley.
I've been uploading some of the AEW five star matches onto Youtube. They're allowing their content to stay up for now, so feel free to have a look before I get copyright struck into oblivion.
Kenny Omega vs El Hijo del Vikingo
Kenny Omega vs Adam Page
Superkliq vs Jurassic Express
Kenny Omega vs El Hijo del Vikingo
Kenny Omega vs Adam Page
Superkliq vs Jurassic Express
Was very dissapointed but Im hoping they have a plan for him going forward but not sure how involved Vince is to scupper that. At least Logan Paul didn’t win as that would have been stupid. I can see they are trying to push Priest and it could be interesting now with Balor and him.’
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Personally I couldn't take this match seriously at all - there was so much talk about it being a dream match, and yet so much of it seemed to be Kenny stood around obviously waiting for Vikingo to jump on him.
I get that the gymnastics are impressive, and I usually enjoy some of the crazy spots, but this match was way over the top, to me it was more a choreographed partner stunt routine than a wrestling match.
Ah like Cody finishing the story... I remember they said it about Rhea losing to Charlotte years ago too. It was like 2 years later she finally beat her.
Yeah I get that this is true of a lot of high-spot stuff, particularly the overly choreographed trios matches which I could really do with seeing less of, but I loved this match. Unlike a lot of other spotfests, it had a decent story to it as well, with good selling and changes in fortune and momentum that made sense IMO.
You can say that about a lot of matches these days. Take the ladder matches last night. Both did the same spot to get the ladder into the position for someone to be dropped onto it later on. You can even see then moving it about to make sure it was stable. Bret Hart would not approve.
Yeah I've played this now. The core gameplay is actually a lot of fun, especially on the harder difficulties, which was to be expected from that engine. You can really have some fun matches.
Anything in the game that's not wrestling is the absolute drizzling shits though. The road to elite story thing is embarrassingly poor from what I've seen so far.
You're right about the price point. This will be half price soon enough.
Manias never coming to London. The weather in UK in March/April is probably going to be shit anyway and the time difference is always going to work against it. Theres a reason they havent ever done it for a major ppv since 1992. Plus Wembley costs a fortune to hire (as mentioned by Tony Khan recently) so it would be a massive money pit for WWE. London wont bid for them to host Mania like US Cites desperate for tourism boost will do so whats the point from WWEs end? Much better to do a pointless ppv like Clash at the Castle in the summer they can charge the same ticket prices for as Mania.
Mania will go to Saudi before its ever in London.
Mania will go to Saudi before its ever in London.
I was having this discussion with a friend as well
Wondering if Cena was there to try drum up interest more from London pov knowing fans and people want mania here and will come especially if it's a week long thing.
But at same time London isn't bidding like other cities (hence why clash happened in Wales rather than London)
Cena mentioning it though (and it being on a PLE where the whole focus of the segment was this rather than something randomly said on a house show must hold weight)
I reckon it was just lip service to be honest.
75k tickets sold, 2 months away and not a single match announced. Think it's fair to say some on here need a slice of humble pie.
Wrestlemania would sell out in minutes I reckon, and you could probably charge 5x-7x the price. It's a no brainer imo.
Wrestlemania would sell out in minutes I reckon, and you could probably charge 5x-7x the price. It's a no brainer imo.
It would but you'd wonder how beholden they are to the likes of Peacock who'd get less viewers for a Mania on at 4/5pm on the east coast and midday on the west coast and the sponsors like Bud Light etc.
In other news, Moxley is a twat. What does he even get out of this rubbish?
Given Mania is now a 2 day affair, you could perhaps have two Manias a week apart? Or even the day after each other but in different countries.
They would probably have it at Spurs instead of Wembley though.
Probably actually yeah
Does live viewership matter all that much so long as it gets the views? Genuine question. You'd literally come back from work or whatever and watch it then if you could t watch it live. Perhaps being the UK I'm biased as that's what weve had to do for years.It would but you'd wonder how beholden they are to the likes of Peacock who'd get less viewers for a Mania on at 4/5pm on the east coast and midday on the west coast and the sponsors like Bud Light etc.
In other news, Moxley is a twat. What does he even get out of this rubbish?
More than a slice I'd say. It's almost like their odd partisanship clouds any critical thinking.
Yeah Wrestlemania would absolutely sell out and they could charge a lot more but I think it's more like other people have mentioned...how it would affect PPV buys with it being on live in America at weird times? 6pm start in the UK is what, 1pm on the East and 10am on the West Coast?
Also the weather at that time of year is unpredictable to say the least.
It would but you'd wonder how beholden they are to the likes of Peacock who'd get less viewers for a Mania on at 4/5pm on the east coast and midday on the west coast and the sponsors like Bud Light etc.
In other news, Moxley is a twat. What does he even get out of this rubbish?
You have to wonder what he wanted to do in WWE if this is what he wants to do now he has left, this isn't wrestling well it isn't to me anyway, he's an imbecile
To be fair all ppv / ple tickets are sold without matches announced
How have AEW sold 10k more tickets when the same tickets that were available this time last week are almost all still there, PLUS a boat load more have showed up in the heavens? Mostly up in the western of the 5 sections... this event has weird manipulation around the actual ticket sales, nothing new there, WWE and wrestling in general have been at it since forever, but this is going to the extremes 
What is going to the extreme? What is the proof to this conspiracy? Why do people get weird about ticket sales?How have AEW sold 10k more tickets when the same tickets that were available this time last week are almost all still there, PLUS a boat load more have showed up in the heavens? Mostly up in the western of the 5 sections... this event has weird manipulation around the actual ticket sales, nothing new there, WWE and wrestling in general have been at it since forever, but this is going to the extremes
I reckon if they did it here, they do wembley back to back. And they probably sell it like they did with mitb and SD combo having a night 1 and 2 combo to begin with. Then after the burst, they break it down.
They won't be, peacock have paid them.
What will matter most to WWE is whether they get paid to bring mania to a city like London esp when they know they can get paid by other cities for this and probably bring b list ppvs to UK and maximize profits across the year
To be fair, if you could direct me to a ppv/ple that isnt one of the big 5 from WWE, where 2 months out they've sold 75000 tickets without a single match announced I'll happily say you're right.
If you want to make a different point then fair enough, go ahead?
Don't think I made a different point? As a matter of fact I said the exact same thing twice? The point wasn't that theyve sold a ticket, the point was the amount they've sold, but you knew that already.
Batman has the bat signal
Some have the aewnegative signal...
Some have the aewnegative signal...
How have AEW sold 10k more tickets when the same tickets that were available this time last week are almost all still there, PLUS a boat load more have showed up in the heavens? Mostly up in the western of the 5 sections... this event has weird manipulation around the actual ticket sales, nothing new there, WWE and wrestling in general have been at it since forever, but this is going to the extremes
Its not surprising at all. When something becomes the hot event and lots of tickets are known to have been sold, suddenly a lot more people want to go as they dont want to miss out. Its similar to when AEW started and were selling out in record time, people in europe's first chance to see AEW live and its going to be a huge show. WWE being in England and hyping things up may even have inadvertantly got some people to buy this show too.
The funny part about this is WWE knew this could happen back when they took action when world of sport started up again. Its just world of sport wasnt a good startup compared to AEW. WWE went far signing so much UK talent and making NXT UK to stop another company getting a big launch in the UK. Years later its AEW getting its EU/UK launch and proving that at least for this one show and probably a few more, there is a big live audience for that.
Randomly banging on about the sales, I've never seen it before and celebrating odd fake milestones etc, ticket manipulation for "marketing" only to find on the day it's wildly off is common, but this a bit extreme... but yes, I'd like to know why people are getting weird about it too.
This blooper has basically admitted they were juicing the numbers. Sold 10k more despite like 9k of the 10k tickets from last week still being available for sale? Yeah that's make sense... plus there's other sections they've never actually released.
Who's randomly banging on about sales? This isn't random
Aew first show in England in a stadium isn't random. It's a big discussion point
What is ticket manipulation? You've said this a few times now.
Why is selling 75k an odd milestone?
I seriously don't understand what point you're trying to make?
I don't get why people are bothered about aew doing so well and trying to downplay it
You would get the answers to most of that if you read what you quoted to be fair.
But just an easy one to comprehend. They are now claiming an extra 10k tickets have been sold in the past week. Given the context of the availability in that timespan, it's next to impossible to have happened. As I have said already, the same tickets available last week, are heavily, still available right now + almost all of the newly "opened" batch. So where are the 10k sales? They don't exist. But they don't actually have to prove that, it just looks good for marketing purposes.
This isn't exclusive to AEW, who I prefer to WWE, so that card ain't going to work for you, WWE has been making up their big show numbers for years too. Every WM is clearly 5-10k+ over it's actual attendance, AEW, as with everything, is taking things a bit extreme. It's TK's playbook.
But just an easy one to comprehend. They are now claiming an extra 10k tickets have been sold in the past week. Given the context of the availability in that timespan, it's next to impossible to have happened. As I have said already, the same tickets available last week, are heavily, still available right now + almost all of the newly "opened" batch. So where are the 10k sales? They don't exist. But they don't actually have to prove that, it just looks good for marketing purposes.
This isn't exclusive to AEW, who I prefer to WWE, so that card ain't going to work for you, WWE has been making up their big show numbers for years too. Every WM is clearly 5-10k+ over it's actual attendance, AEW, as with everything, is taking things a bit extreme. It's TK's playbook.
Again, you're being weird about this as a way to downplay such a big thing.
Who is they?
Who is they?
Well someone up above mentions it... because it's been brought up absolutely loads everywhere today specifically. WrestleTix has a data map up last week claiming 65k sold(estimated), but 75k sold(estimated) this week... with almost every ticket that was available last week, still available this week, plus a lot more.
I mean, seriously though, don't be weird and defensive about it. It's not a big deal, like I said WWE does it too, as did WCW, the wrestling industry loves dodgy numbers.
I mean, seriously though, don't be weird and defensive about it. It's not a big deal, like I said WWE does it too, as did WCW, the wrestling industry loves dodgy numbers.
It's not being defensive when you're asking for proof based on conspiracys.
But sure, you do you
But sure, you do you