Like the Alonso bit you noted, that is also "talk".
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Like the Alonso bit you noted, that is also "talk".
None that I can think of actually. I guess Liverpool and United would be the best comparison to Madrid and Barca and no player has directly transferred between the two since the sixties, not sure whether they were products of the youth system or not.
Barca would obviously be furious though and understandably so. No doubt it would be made ten times worse if Mourinho was carrying on there as I'm sure he wouldn't be able to resist fanning the flames in that situation.
I've always found it interesting that the Figo transfer seems to get brought up a lot, but Luis Enrique joining Barca from Madrid, on a free, rarely gets mentioned. Maybe it's the money involved, or, the infamous reaction from the Barca fan lobbing a pig's head onto the pitch. More likely the difference in quality I guess, though Enrique was one of my favourite non-United players when he was at Barca.
De Gea is letting us down.
He should be treating Thiago to dinner, not those chancers.
He should be treating Thiago to dinner, not those chancers.
Can any of those fellas play in a 2 man midfield?
Surprised these quotes haven't been posted here yet:
Vilanova:
Interesting.
Vilanova:
Interesting.
We said the same about Pogba.
This thread has dropped down and it's a sign from football gods that we aren't going to sign this fecker.
It'll revive soon enough.
United transfer news has been kept very quiet, even the that Transfer Tavern nonsense on Talkshite barely mentioned United at the weekend.
United transfer news has been kept very quiet, even the that Transfer Tavern nonsense on Talkshite barely mentioned United at the weekend.
I must admit, I didn't expect this thread to die after I posted that quote from Vilanova. I thought it sounded good for us. Barca basically saying "It's out of our hands now, it's up to Thiago".
Sounds very similar to what we said about Pogba, as Mainoldo said.
I'm looking forward for the U21 Championships.
Sounds very similar to what we said about Pogba, as Mainoldo said.
I'm looking forward for the U21 Championships.
When do the U-21 Champs finish?
18th I believe.
Yup. And he'll be announced as a United player before the following Monday.
#gutITK.
#gutITK.
That's basically saying we want him to stay because he's great but we have good players ahead of him in the team...
He should leave, unless it's to anybody else other than us, then he should stay.
He would do very well for us. Would not get anywhere near as many games or be as central to the team at Barca or Real. Let's hope he can see the benefit in that.
It sounded like Vilanova was resigned to his departure.
But people's hopes were probably dampened by the entry of Real Madrid. If Thiago want's to stay in Spain (most likely the case), and isn't frightened by a controversial move, Madrid could be powerfully attractive.
The comments of Perez and Thiago's father/agent were a bit ominous as well.
Still all to play for though. Hopefully it'll be resolved quickly after the Euros. Another will he/won't he saga dragging on for weeks, and ending in disappointment, would be
You can bet I check this thread every morning (hmm hour...maybe minutes..) to see if something new happened. But to be fair I'm a little bit scared to let my hopes get into me, every summer I get so disappointed when we don't buy a new midfielder. Even my wife and children knows this, no new mf and the summer sucks
Neymar presented without a number since both Thiago & Villa remain Barcelona players
Thiago & Villa's days as Barca players are numbered or not?
In other words one of them is off.
Villa is definitely off I thought?
Pretty sure Villa will leave. I doubt he wants to be a bench warmer for another season and with Neymar coming in his starting chances are even smaller.
Not official but I believe it's only a matter of time
Precisely. Although, regrettably, they also both could be
It's an interesting question in terms of the number. For Neymar & Nike, marketing your brand is not necessarily predicated on a specific or sexy number but their campaign can't even really launch without that confirmation of which it will be. The player has actually worn both #7 & #11 in his career and while he has publicly said the rights things, i.e. he doesn't care what number he gets - Credit to Neymar because said he was fine with whatever was available (Which currently are only 20, 23 and everything starting after 25). Thiago himself doesn't care about a number and has worn a variety of ones both for Barcelona & La Roja. I think he wants or has coveted #4 (Everyone wants to be Guardiola don't they?) but outside of that, I don't believe keeping it or giving it up is an issue for him. Truth is, I think he'd have gladly given #11 to Neymar were he to stay regardless of how it plays out.
Yet, the club intentionally used no number which means they are waiting for an official word on what is going to be available. They know Villa is gone, that's not a secret so #7 was always going to be available - although they wouldn't disrespect Villa and have Neymar present with it while he's still under contract. I doubt even Sandy would be so daft to go that route. So I think it means #11 is still in play but depends on Thiago. Which, IMO, can be taken one of two ways. Either the club is deferring to Thiago, knowing that only he can decide whether he wants to be here or not and consequently own #11 - presumably to hand it over to Neymar eventually anyway. For me, that is showing respect to Thiago and demonstrating their confidence in the player, irrespective of whether they renegotiate or improve his contract as he may be angling for anyway by not giving it to such a massive signing from the getgo. Yet it also could mean they are saying to Thiago that #11 is what Neymar wants and it is what he will get once Thiago says he's going.
Otherwise, Neymar could end up indeed with #7.
It's interesting in the context of this act and Vilanova's comments, IMO. I think they are challenging the player to commit without improving his contract yet letting him know he is important to the club. Go for money or succeed at the club, I feel like this is the rallying call from the club and like I have said before, he could choose money and it will have backfired.
If this happen's, I may adopt you as my new ITK, I lost the last one...
And if it doesn't - we will kick you right ITN
The Thiago to Real rumour just wont go away.
Looks like it's going to be a typical caf transfer saga.
Few twitter and talksport shite exhilarates the CAF, he signs for Madrid/Barca/Chelsea and all along nothing was going on between our club and the coveted player.
Oh yeah, in the mean time we'll get ourselves into a stupor over the idea of signing him and wet ourselvs over the slightest mention It's gonna be great.
He's a top class talent, of course a lot of top clubs will be after him. So far he's been linked with us, Real Madrid, Milan and City and I bet this isn't the end.
Good thing Bayern aren't supposed to be showing any interest or else he'd be nailed on to go there since his relationship with Guardiola was good and he played a lot more under him than under Vilanova I think.
I don't think he's going to move here to be honest. Had Ferguson still been here my hopes would be higher but with a new manager we lost that bit of the edge (legendary manager who brings stability can be a pull for players, I gues) and competition for his signature will be too strong. We very rarely win races for players who are coveted by the likes of Milan and Madrid.
Good thing Bayern aren't supposed to be showing any interest or else he'd be nailed on to go there since his relationship with Guardiola was good and he played a lot more under him than under Vilanova I think.
I don't think he's going to move here to be honest. Had Ferguson still been here my hopes would be higher but with a new manager we lost that bit of the edge (legendary manager who brings stability can be a pull for players, I gues) and competition for his signature will be too strong. We very rarely win races for players who are coveted by the likes of Milan and Madrid.
In a world where some coveted players are joining the Monaco project under Rainier, left, right and center, I am not sure that the manager pull makes that big of a difference. Plenty of good players have joined manager-less clubs in the past few years.
We have the history, worldwide popularity and the ability to pay money. If we want him, surely we can make the push.
We have the history, worldwide popularity and the ability to pay money. If we want him, surely we can make the push.
What choice did Falcao, Moutinho and Rodriguez have though? They knew they had to leave their current clubs and no one could possibly match Monaco's offer. I'm sure they'd rather play for top clubs around Europe but they didn't seem to be presented with a choice. Same goes for Hulk and Witsel last year really, their clubs needed the money to break even and were offered a lot of money, once bids were accepted there was no turning back for players themselves.
I don't know what choices they did or did not have. Why did they have to leave their current clubs and go to the highest bidder, is something I don't get. They were not indentured slaves, were they? We don't know what happened but I not sure they were completely helpless. Players and agents are plenty powerful to make the moves of their choice in most cases these days.
It is not just players from Portuguese clubs to Monaco or Russia. Players have joined other clubs without a manager in charge. You think Hazard & Oscar dreamt of playing under DiMatteo? Money, and to some extent reputation, precedes the managerial pull these days.
Florentino Perez has said that Real won't be activating the clause. It's on twitter, can't copy and paste from my phone.
That's because Porto needed to sell them, Porto have to sell players each year to have funds available for sustaining the business. If your employer makes it clear that he needs you gone because he needs the money you don't try to piss him off and stay, do you? And it was clear that no one was ever going to match Monaco's bid, Spurs didn't even want to pay £20m for Moutinho last year. Falcao was powerless too because he belonged to a third party who wouldn't sell him anywhere else because they needed to recoup the money they had invested.
-------------DDG
Rafael----Rio-----Vidic-----Evra
-----------Strootman
-------Thiago-------Carrick
Rooney---------------------Kagawa
----------------RVP
Would comfortably be the best team in the league.
Rafael----Rio-----Vidic-----Evra
-----------Strootman
-------Thiago-------Carrick
Rooney---------------------Kagawa
----------------RVP
Would comfortably be the best team in the league.
That's a very bold statement
He read it in a book.
Why? Thats the team which won the league by 11 points and added what it was missing, a couple of good midfielders.
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