Thiago Alcantara | Signed for Bayern Munich

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Cal? said:
He probably thought he should have played more often for Barca too...
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Really though? Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Fabregas. I guess he should have played a few more cameos, but trying to break into one of the best midfields of all time isn't what he should be expecting.
 
KM said:
Fergie's greatest quality was to adapt with times. Anyway if Thiago signs I can't see this clause coming into effect.
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People often underrate that. You don't get to manage a billion dollar enterprise for 26 years if you are not adaptable.

I think release clause are small time and are for clubs like Tottenham, Arsenal, and Liverpool, this is a special case. We're signing a potential great, not some no mark from the Croatian league.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
Release clause if he doesn't play enough. Lads why the worry? Of course he's going to play enough. Do you guys think he's going to sit on our bench?!?!
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And if he doesn't play much, it'll be because he's not as good as we hope (though I feel certain that won't happen) yet could still get what we paid for him if he wishes to leave. Sounds pretty good really.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
Really though? Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Fabregas. I guess he should have played a few more cameos, but trying to break into one of the best midfields of all time isn't what he should be expecting.
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I was meaning asking us for a release clause not Barca that I can understand given the depth of talent.
 
United can easily provide him with over 30 matches, not to mention Champions League and other cups.

I fully understand he loves Barcelona but as every professional footballer he knows that he needs games, even if it will mean change of a football club. He's gonna leave when he'll feel he's not the first choice.
 
I've always liked United's tough stance on these sorts of issues, but sometimes a concession is so meaningless that worrying about 'setting a precedent' is overly dramatic. I honestly can't envisage a situation where Thiago won't play a huge majority of games that he's available for. This isn't even like Kagawa - who I knew would be a success here given a season or so to settle. Thiago is the pre-eminent young CM talent in the world, and even without really finding top form he'd be a comfortable starter for us.
 
I think Fergie would just say, I'll give you my word and that's that. And that will be that and Thiago/Mazinho would sign it.

If Robinho could be Robson according to Boss, would Mazinho be Mazeson?
 
Cina said:
Shouldn't you be off enjoying your Summer and all that?
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In fairness it's more difficult to do that from inside the office (and the sun's gone). It was more to do with the relentless nature of these threads that even a sunny weekend was no obstacle for this lot!
 
Brightonian said:
I've always liked United's hard stance on these sorts of issues, but sometimes a concession is so meaningless that worrying about 'setting a precedent' is overly dramatic. I honestly can't envisage a situation where Thiago won't play a huge majority of games that he's available for. This isn't even like Kagawa - who I knew would be a success here given a season or so to settle. Thiago is the pre-eminent young CM talent in the world, and even without really finding top form he'd be a comfortable starter for us.
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I don't think it ever needs to be made public too, coz everybody knows that Thiago will get the minutes barring injury.
 
Don't see what the problem is with him having a similar clause to the one he did at Barca. The lad is 22 years of age, at a crucial time in his career/development and is regarded by some, as one of the 20 best midfielders in the world, already.

Why should he leave, what many believe to be the best team of all time and one of the best countries in the world to live in, just to come here and have the possibility of finding himself in the same position.
If I was hm, I'd want guarantees, too.

Also, with the state of our midfield, we are in no position to be turning away world class talents, for the sake of a clause, that probably wouldn't matter anyways.

I'll go one further actually. Moyes should offer to suck the lad's cock, if it gets him to sign because we have no other options and signing a player of that quality for under £20m, would be one of the best transfers in a long, long, time.

Think its time a few peple on here got off their high horse, and forget about this 'We're Man Utd, we don't give into player demands' bollocks. This is the world we live in now. All the good players want clauses and stipulations and image rights etc in their contracts. So it's time to play along or get left behind.
 
Van Piorsing said:
United can easily provide him with over 30 matches, not to mention Champions League and other cups.

I fully understand he loves Barcelona but as every professional footballer he knows that he needs games, even if it will mean change of a football club. He's gonna leave when he'll feel he's not the first choice.
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He mentioned that he wants to become a footballing legend, not necessarily a Barcelona legend.

Hope on muppets.
 
Nothing wrong with the clause, tbh, if he's not going to get game time here, what do we want him for anyway. Surely he'll get the games here, and the clause itself will be irrelevant outside of keeping him happy while signing?
 
To be honest Olly i am expecting a reply to Jestons GIF.

This is a good old fashioned GIF-Off don't you know!
 
I assume such a clause would be void if he missed X amount of games through injury for example?
 
I said it in the other thread, but I'll say it here, should we not at least break even if this clause is in place? £17mil is less than the fee we'd be paying, if the fees being discussed are correct. Why would we agree to a clause where we potentially lose money?
 
The Neviller said:
I said it.in the other thread, but I'll say it here, should we not at least break even if this clause is in place? £17mil is less than the fee we'd be paying, if the fees being discussed are correct. Why would we agree to a clause where we potentially lose money?
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I would say so. barca stuff say 20m, man utd stuff say 17m. Both could be talking shite though.
 
The Neviller said:
I said it.in the other thread, but I'll say it here, should we not at least break even if this clause is in place? £17mil is less than the fee we'd be paying, if the fees being discussed are correct. Why would we agree to a clause where we potentially lose money?
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Agree, baffling if we are indeed hesitating over the clause.
 
Just insert that clause and be done with it. He should and can play every game, he's only fecking 22. And he barely played last season for Barca
 
FCBarca said:
You'd be wrong
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Then that makes the clause ridiculous. He could have an amazing first half to the season, break his leg and then leave the club for £17m because he didn't play the full amount of games?
 
Summit said:
I would say so. barca stuff say 20m, man utd stuff say 17m. Both could be talking shite though.
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If we're guarenteed to break even, and games where he is injured don't count, I'd say go for it. He's going to be a starter anyway, so it'll probably never matter.
 
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JB7 said:
Then that makes the clause ridiculous. He could have an amazing first half to the season, break his leg and then leave the club for £17m because he didn't play the full amount of games?
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He needs to want to leave aswell do people forget that? And we can also offer him a new contract at any time
 
The Neviller said:
If we're guarenteed to break even, and games where he is injured don't count, I'd say go for it. He's going to be a starter anyway, so it'll probably never matter.
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If reports are true, in that Moyes has advised to add the clause so we don't miss out on him, then I think Moyes feels the same way too.
 
JB7 said:
Then that makes the clause ridiculous. He could have an amazing first half to the season, break his leg and then leave the club for £17m because he didn't play the full amount of games?
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It appears his injury missed games at Barca counted towards his clause being triggered, but you'd assume that was an omission on their part that we'd surely safeguard ourselves against.

If any of it is true, of course.
 
I read somewhere that a long term injury would void the clause. Seems a bit ridiculous if the player did pick up a bad injury, he'd be available at a cut price.
 
The Don said:
But...but ...but, we're Man Utd, we don't negotiate with..erm..football players, or something.

Cocks.
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Meh, we did it with Ronaldo, from what I've read.

As you've said, this is the world we live in as far as footballers and clauses are concerned. It's great to have principles, and I'm happy with how we handle negotiations, but if this is something the club are comfortable with then I'm comfortable with it too.

I may even get my Mickey/Neviller out.
 
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