if there is a tax issue, how does barca control it?
Thiago Alcantara | Signed for Bayern Munich
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If we agree a deal with the player it's unlikely he'll go back on his word.
It's posted by indukalia news so I don't really want to entertain it but perhaps we want all terms agreed and given the green light to finish the de without Barcas consent.
if thiago agrees to terms with united, then i think the ship would have sailed for barca regarding thiago.
i doubt barca will be able to change thiago's mind after him having agreed terms with us
i doubt barca will be able to change thiago's mind after him having agreed terms with us
Okay? I didnt say otherwise.
They don't, it's just paper nonsense. There's nothing in it for them and it'd ruin their relationship with the player (who they might want back in the future) and United (with whom they might want to deal in the future), and there's nothing to gain at all.
In theory, no.
I mean if we meet with him and his officials and agree that. Then both player and United can present a United front against Barcelona along the lines of 'sell him you cnuts'.
I guess it's just a way of playing hard ball.
If we give Thiago money to pay the release clause, that money is income and is subject to taxes. If we directly put a bid to Barca and they accept it, that isn't taxed. Barca doesn't win anything if we pay taxes but they can make our lives harder.
So first the lure of United wasnt appealing by the minute but somehow now he is still close to signing?
I'm not even sure they want to push the price up. I think they just want to make out to their fans that its not them who wants him to leave. Everything from the past few months suggests we were the forerunners in the chase for his signature both from the Spanish press and here. If that's the case, and wants to come here I don't see how they have much leverage once the clause is met.
He quite clearly backtracked.
United have history of using influential players when doing business. I say send Phil Jones. Just have him sit there in silence, staring at the Barca president with cold, dead eyes and one clenched fist on the table.
Why does nobody stalk David Moyes or Edward McWoodwardword?
We'd have an idea of what the feck is going on then. I bet I could find out where Kim Kardashian is at any time of day and where she last farted but important people can go about their day without anyone knowing? feck that.
We'd have an idea of what the feck is going on then. I bet I could find out where Kim Kardashian is at any time of day and where she last farted but important people can go about their day without anyone knowing? feck that.
Send him along with Giggs, Moyes and Big Dave. #JobDone
They are off limits while on holidays.
Pretty easy way to get around the issue of income. They could give him the money as a loan which he then repays out of his wage; £1/week for the duration of his contract etc. need to get approval from the tax office in spain though first; has the potential to sting you in the ass if not very strictly worded.
send scholesy over, we all know how those barca turbognomes love the prince.
If he does not agree, get him to threaten to ping balls at there heads from 10 yards.
If he does not agree, get him to threaten to ping balls at there heads from 10 yards.
Yep, surely there must be some options to not pay around 20m extra. I think that United are still in negotiations with Barca about a mutual agreement, but if we can't make a compromise then surely we must try something else. Lawyers time then.
We can play the good and the bad cop with De Gea and Phil Jones.
Just reading over the last few pages, apparently Barca want a buy back clause. WTF? Do they we are Chelsea or a Roma sort of club?? We sold them Gerrard fecking Pique for 7m without any hassles. cnuts
If Jones' scary face doesn't scare them into selling, I don't know what will.
Nemanja Vidic.
Ah, yes. That would certainly do it. Just send him in to stare at the president.And then say,"You sell Thiago, now".
I've just seen a relatively recent picture of Sandro Rosell and Mazinho. Have we been through it?
No one has ever paid tax on a "release clause" exit. It's a technical issue (aka lawyers get paid a lot of money to manage the transfer in a way that meets the approval of the UK and spanish tax authorities).
I think I'll turn this statement into my signature for the summer muppet season.
I think I'll turn this statement into my signature for the summer muppet season.
Well a large chunk of the current Spanish squad play in the Premier League, it's high profile and in the public eye wherever you are.
The thing is, Thiago will be competing with the same players for Spain that he currently is for Barca. I'd say he feels he'd have a good chance of securing a place in the squad if he were to come here and play regularly, however.
Clearly now barca are shitting their pants as they know the threat of him leaving is real.
I just hope he sees through it all and decides moving will be the best option.
fingers crossed when we meet his dad / agent we will do enough to sell the club to them.
it's clear though that things are not as cut and dry as we hoped. I just really hope he has had enough there.
I just hope he sees through it all and decides moving will be the best option.
fingers crossed when we meet his dad / agent we will do enough to sell the club to them.
it's clear though that things are not as cut and dry as we hoped. I just really hope he has had enough there.
In terms of the first XI, he probably has no chance. I think the only way Del Bosque will risk the mix is for a player who has a great season at Barcelona or Madrid. That's not going to happen for Thiago.
So for a chance of making the squad? How about a great season with one of the top clubs in Europe and a few great performances in the CL. Do it really well and he might even get Fabregas's, "Plan B from the bench," role.
RT @ManUtdStuff Thiago prefers to stay at Barca though he requires assurances that he will get more playing time than last season. [guardian]
I assume that's regarding the Jamie Jackson article, which was based on nothing it seems.
I don't blame him for that. Of course he's going to prefer to stay with the team that nurtured him into the player he is today. I won't be bitter if he doesn't join - I'll be deeply saddened, but not bitter.
Unless he goes to Chelsea.
This is fecking stupid. Every one of these Twitter wankers is pretending to know something whilst completely contradicting one another. I can't believe I've got so sucked into this.
And Villanova has said he isn't going to give anyone assurances.
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...ago-assurances-making-manchester-united-move-
This was from two days ago.
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...ago-assurances-making-manchester-united-move-
This was from two days ago.
Thats because if they suggest something that goes against the grain their tweet will garner more attention than the same churned out stories that have been circulating for a while.
It's really strange - most the Spanish press seem to be saying barca cannot re assure thiago, and it's basically a matter of time before be leaves. The English press however are trying to say he prefers to stay. Surely it should be the other way around? It's a real odd scenario.
Im sceptical of the "It reads like Barcelona are a bit irritated by the exit rumours and think that he only missed out on the required playing time target because of a slight knee injury"
claim because all the Spanish papers reported last month that Barcelona wanted to sell him. They also had ample opportunity to play him at the end of the season but didn't. They played Xavi despite being only half fit and the league being secure. It makes no sense to me. If they wanted to assure him wouldn't they have played him?
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