What if he’s demanding more from Man Utd?
Thiago Alcantara | Pool bound
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This is absolutely spot on in my opinion and feel bad because if I wasn't such a fan of the guy wouldn't feel so torn on this at all
We simply don’t know it. If this is true - then he doesn’t fit Ole’s philosophy. But if his demands are just high (but equal for both clubs) - then it’s simply a financial question
If we can't/wont pay his wages I don't see Liverpool doing it, Id wait a season for Sancho to get Thiago if it was financially necessary.
That was what I am hoping too but pretty sure if there was any concerns on that from Liverpool's point of view it would have been brought up by Romano, Bouhafsi or one of their reliable journos
Wow now that is a big call
What you have to ask is, why has this taken Lfc so long?
If it's a case of moving one out, to get one in, does Thiago want to even go to such a club?
If it's a case of moving one out, to get one in, does Thiago want to even go to such a club?
Could we not be able to meet his wage demands if we can clear some more big earners of the bill first
So it’s not as clear cut as you first said.
It would have no bearing on Oles philosophy either, there’s clear reasons for it, as outlined by posters above
You can't just lump premium rate players in one homogeneous blob. Falcao wasn't fit, we took a risk; Sanchez, people thought was half-arsing it at Arsenal not realising he was a spent force. Di Maria is a fair enough comment as he had been stellar at Madrid.
There are concerns to be had about a player of his injury profile, but not the playing side. Di Maria was magnificent for the first run of games before things nose-dived and as long as Thiago's knees hold up and he settles in England, there's not much reason to think he can't be a special player for his last few peak years.
It sounds as though Di Maria didn't want England in any capacity whilst Thiago is supposedly actively seeking the opportunity to play here. Their circumstances don't strike as similar.
Having doubts about him on that wage vis-a-vis his knees is a valid enough reason not to pursue in its own right, but all the rest of it, premium inclusive, is part and parcel of these elite players and the reason they have so few options when everything is laid on the table.
I still don't see how he doesn't cause disruption amongst Liverpool's underpaid superstars coming in and gazumping all but Van Dijk.
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29 for a Central Midfielder isn’t thaaaat old. If you’ve looked after yourself you easily have 3 more years left and then you can go for that big pay day abroad. Ole’s long term vision is surely down to 2 years if we get players like Sancho and Thiago in. We should expect to be up there.
If we sign thiago , we have the strongest midfield in the league. Thiago Pogba VDB and Fernandes. That CL winner Midfield
Who’s this random journo we are taking as Gospel?
Also who gives them their tier rankings. I can’t believe I’m reading tier 1 and tier 3 etc journalists
Norwegian guy
Nobody gets the same sponsorship money, likewise TV money is distributed slightly differently amongst the teams.
I'm sure Thiago isn't sitting at home hoping he plays for Liverpool because their 'net spend' is awesome according to the internet.
That's quite a strawman. Nobody thinks that. Liverpool's direct rivals get a comparable revenue from non-football sources of income, making their success relative to their net spend very, very impressive. That's all I said.Nobody gets the same sponsorship money, likewise TV money is distributed slightly differently amongst the teams.
I'm sure Thiago isn't sitting at home hoping he plays for Liverpool because their 'net spend' is awesome according to the internet.
No doubt about that but cannot see it happening with Bouhafsi saying only Liverpool are in for him
Is he past it? I'm asking if he has he been completely injury free a couple of years now?
Definitely not past it, you only have to look at his performance in the champions league final. The guy is an absolute baller no doubt about that but hard to see him not joining Liverpool
The point I'm making is people's arguments for net spend are based on player sales, yet the club's main source of revenue is sponsorship, TV rights etc, not player sales, no net spend is irrelevant.
I was merely making a point in jest that players do not look at this imaginary net spend, therefore it doesn't really have an impact in to much of anything.
That's what I'm saying, if he is so injury prone I don't understand why Liverpool would go for him and sell Wijnaldum who has been mostly very reliable when others haven't.
I know he is good, but if he is still struggling with injuries on the regular at 29 I don't mind United not going for him. One big injury at this stage and it's a complete waste of money, Klopp should know this and avoid it himself because as you say he is quite the baller.
If it's a choice of Greenwood starting regularly on the RW, or Matic/Fred partnering Pogba or VdB regularly I'd opt for the former.
Fair point but looks a moot one as reckon he will be headed to Liverpool pretty soon
Hopefully he plays tonight. Can't wait.
I doubt clubs outside of top 6 and without sugar daddy probably will agree with you.
We should be going to Madrid with the €50m Atletico want for Partey instead of this.
I'm not so sure, I feel if we can't meet his wages they wont either, and I've read a couple articles saying FSG aren't keen to fund the deal due to him pushing 30 which doesn't meet their model. Not saying that means we'll get him, could well be a 3rd party comes in and gets him, but Idon't think anything is cut and dry yet.
The pain from this saga from years ago was healed.. so I thought. I don’t think it will happen but would love to see it but won’t get drawn in.....
He can play in any midfield role and would fit straight in!
He can play in any midfield role and would fit straight in!
Imagine not long ago we have Lingered, Pereira, Fred and Mctominay playing regularly in our midfield. No offence to Fred and Mctominay, they are quite decent, but Thiago Pogba VDB and Fernandes are just something else.
He has been able to play in some fantastic Bayern Munich sides with top coaches and has won the highest club honors consistently. If he went to Liverpool he would be objectively joining a fantastic team with a legendary coach starting to consistently win the highest club honors.
He wants money sure but by targeting a Liverpool move he is making a very strong statement of his values and desires. He wants that specific challenge with a traditional club. And he is clearly a man who enjoys his footaball.
United would present an even bigger risk and obstacle because the team MAY become fantastic, our coach MAY become legendary, and we MAY consistently start to win the highest club trophies again.
Money is not at all the only factor at play here.
Pity about the defence
Agent Dave needs to get in his ear on Spain duty most of the time
Admire the optimism but if they had any issues funding this deal at all we would have already heard about it from one of their top sources
Totally forgot! Thanks for the reminder ^^
Definitely. But Thiago will know what wages Dave is on and what he could potentially get out of the club. This is an issue.
Do you go around telling your friends/colleagues how much you make?
Thiego is really good, but he's not a goat.
And I think most people understand that there's a difference when a player has dedicated so many years to a club while proving themselves, they are rewarded more than a player just joining.
If he had joined at 24 and was now negotiating his new contract to stay then maybe. As it stands we don't neeed to buy him, and pool won't pay much more than 2-250k either. He doesn't have as much leverage to negotiate.
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