Thiago Alcantara | Pool bound

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We aren't going to sign a player to bench Pogba. I know that might break the hearts of many Pogba haters but it's clear that what we need is an upgrade on Matic. That's who we'll replace in our starting lineup and once we do we'll have a bloody good midfield.
 
Manchester United`s standard should be a quality squad with depth and adding Thiago would be a great move. Surprised some say " Pogba , Bruno, Thiago won't work", " Pogba will leave when he comes", " Pogba will be benched" etc. Yo need quality players on each position to make players to compete for their spot, to keep their motivation and competition always pushes players to improvement and better performances. With Thiago you would even add more versatility in the midfield. Even if Pogba will be benched , so what ? Maybe Thiago won´t start, so what ? He hasn´t been always a starter for Bayern too. Tolisso, Lucuas Hernandez, Coman were benched in last games at Bayern, look who sits on City´s bench.

I feel that too many worry about too much quality players resulting in their favourite players getting benched. You never can get enough quality players as a top team. Hope Ed doesn´t has this mentality , cause this won`t bring United forward at all.


That being said, I don´t expect him to end up ad United anyway, but super werid that some are so worried for quuality players potentially benching quality players :D:D
 
I'm sure of it, though it is weird it coming through a Norwegian journalist rather than Falk or someone.
Yeah - Falk just said Bayern expect a bid soon + this from Fab suggests to me that our name is being used to drum up interest and push Liverpool into bidding soon.
 
This is so fishy. Most obvious use of our name to pressure Liverpool. Don’t believe it for a second.
 
I don’t think anyone knows what we’re up to, including Woodward.
 
Oh my! Not this again, please! Not another Thiago saga! I can't see why he would come here rather go to Liverpool who are wanting him for months now or stay at Bayern and leave on a free. Hope I'm wrong because injuries apart, he could be awesome at Manchester United.
 
I can't take this saga again. Fecking Moyes deserves a tight slap for breaking our Muppets heart last time. Will only get invested if we actually confirm his transfer by some miracle
 
This is so fishy. Most obvious use of our name to pressure Liverpool. Don’t believe it for a second.
This, it is obvious we are being used to get Liverpool to pay up. Thiago already has eyes set for Liverpool. Only reason why Liverpool trying to haggle the price.
 
A midfield 3 of Pogba, Thiago and Bruno? There isn't a system where that works apart from games you expect to dominate.
And yet Thiago, Goretzka and Muller worked despite not any better defensively than the above stated trio.
 
Yeah - Falk just said Bayern expect a bid soon + this from Fab suggests to me that our name is being used to drum up interest and push Liverpool into bidding soon.

Over to Liverpool. I wouldnt be surprised if they dont pay up.
I wonder who else would be in for him as well. Chelsea...
 
And yet Thiago, Goretzka and Muller worked despite not any better defensively than the above stated trio.
Goretzka is much more disciplined than Pogba is, a lot better work rate/really good pressing and not that adventurous with his passing. A midfield of Thiago, Van de Beek and Bruno would probably be fine. A midfield or Thiago, Pogba and Bruno i don't think would work, at least not in any straightforward way without the rest of the team being set up perfectly.
 
And yet Thiago, Goretzka and Muller worked despite not any better defensively than the above stated trio.

Really ? Do you see how much Müller works defensively ? Goretzka is defence machine , while Thiago is one of the best in interceptions/ recoveries and one of the most pressing resistent players in the world. All 3 are amazing defensively.

How are Pogba and Bruno better than Goretzka and Müller defensively ? I also strongly believe their work rate is way better.
 
Liverpool are waiting for Barca to come for Genie while Barca are waiting for Messi saga to be over.

Just a "hurry up dude" tactic from Bayern through their favorite reporter ( has anyone else reported this ?)
 
It's just to hurry up Liverpool. No way we can convince him to choose us over Liverpool at this moment if Liverpool bid for him.
Could be the same situation as Werner. To bad I don't think we will be as lucky
 
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IMO Bayern are being more than reasonable with their asking price.

Their player decided he wants a new challenge, they made no fuss about it and asked a very reasonable price.

Liverpool are being idiots taking so long. If I were Thiago I would seriously reconsider going to a club that apparently doubts whether he is worth 30M.
Thiago is one of those few players that can pretty much decide himself where he would like to play. He would walk into any team. He chose Liverpool, better pay up before he changes his mind.
 
Really ? Do you see how much Müller works defensively ? Goretzka is defence machine , while Thiago is one of the best in interceptions/ recoveries and one of the most pressing resistent players in the world. All 3 are amazing defensively.

How are Pogba and Bruno better than Goretzka and Müller defensively ? I also strongly believe their work rate is way better.
That's a point that has come through on the last few pages several times and most posters got wrong. Our whole team, at least now once again under Flick, has defensive duties, and especially Müller is a natural pressing machine, running at opponents tirelessly on his matchstick legs and blocking tons of passing opportunities with his positioning and spatial awareness. Having him up front helps DMs, not the other way around.
 
IMO Bayern are being more than reasonable with their asking price.

Their player decided he wants a new challenge, they made no fuss about it and asked a very reasonable price.

Liverpool are being idiots taking so long. If I were Thiago I would seriously reconsider going to a club that apparently doubts whether he is worth 30M.
Thiago is one of those few players that can pretty much decide himself where he would like to play. He would walk into any team. He chose Liverpool, better pay up before he changes his mind.

I'm guessing Liverpool are waiting for Barcelona to make an offer on Wijnaldum before making their move on Thiago.
 
We clearly can't rely on Matic for the whole season and Ole seems to be trying Fred as the deepest midfielder. If we can play Fred or McT with Bruno and Pogba then we can very easily play Thiago with them. He may not run about as much as those two(neither does Matic who is better) but he brings so much more quality.

I think he still goes to Liverpool and will be a great signing for them, but he's a player we should at least be looking at.
 
He's a phenomenal player that'll be pretty shame to play for Liverpool but why would we be interested ? We have Pogba and Bruno and he won't like being a squad option for them. Bayern probably just using our name to make Liverpool take a decision on this quickly.
 
He's a phenomenal player that'll be pretty shame to play for Liverpool but why would we be interested ? We have Pogba and Bruno and he won't like being a squad option for them. Bayern probably just using our name to make Liverpool take a decision on this quickly.

Midfield sorted for 4+ years if VDB and Thiago sign, minus of course a Matic replacement, with Sancho the front 4 is sorted, and from that point all thats needed is a CB and fullbacks.

The squad rebuild would be nearly complete, so if Thiago knows Sancho and VDB are coming then it could be a level playing field in a season.
 
Midfield sorted for 4+ years if VDB and Thiago sign, minus of course a Matic replacement, with Sancho the front 4 is sorted, and from that point all thats needed is a CB and fullbacks.

The squad rebuild would be nearly complete, so if Thiago knows Sancho and VDB are coming then it could be a level playing field in a season.

Thiago knows he's much, much better than just being a squad option for Pogba and Bruno. I can see VDB agreeing to this role but definitely not Thiago. I really can't believe we're actually interested in him. Pretty sure it's just leaks from Bayern's side that's all.
 
Thiago knows he's much, much better than just being a squad option for Pogba and Bruno. I can see VDB agreeing to this role but definitely not Thiago. I really can't believe we're actually interested in him. Pretty sure it's just leaks from Bayern's side that's all.
Nobody is suggesting he's behind Bruno and Pogba though, Thiago is obviously a starter when fit.
 
Don’t want him.

Good player, injury prone, 29.

Id prefer to sign players in the 18-23 bracket and try to build a squad for the next 4 years

And strange as it sounds, I think he’ll be a better signing for Liverpool than us. I think United need to build a squad, Liverpool just need a little injection of quality in midfield
 
That's a point that has come through on the last few pages several times and most posters got wrong. Our whole team, at least now once again under Flick, has defensive duties, and especially Müller is a natural pressing machine, running at opponents tirelessly on his matchstick legs and blocking tons of passing opportunities with his positioning and spatial awareness. Having him up front helps DMs, not the other way around.
Very much this.
 
Bayern team totally different in their style of play. Their defenders are playing too high so that they can support their midfield with ball rotation and their attackers too very close to their midfield.

Man utd can't play both pogba and alcantara in two man midfield.

Oh ok, if you say we can't then that's me convinced
 
If it were up to me I would let his contract run out. I don't see the benefit of selling him for such a low fee when the Lewandowski, Müller, Neuer & Co. core has a very finite number of chances to win another Champions League title.

But Rummenigge & Co. seem intent on selling him so I'd rather take a United transfer than one to Liverpool.

This is what’s I’d do in your position or go for a CL and let him walk for free. Liverpool, PSG and City will be your biggest CL challengers. I’d argue add Thiago to Liverpool makes them favourites, so no idea why Bayern would do that. For what just 30mil euros, even during Covid is that gonna really help you financially.
 
I thought Thiago, in the UCL final, played the role that Fred plays for us when he starts alongside Pogba and I wouldn't lie that Thiago's composure and quality was well above what Fred usually displays. The guy was looking so relaxed in a UCL final with PSG players pressing him but he always managed to find great passes and even broke up PSG attack at times. Watching the final was painful for me because I remember how heavily we were linked to him before his move to Bayern and I couldn't help but think what could potentially have been had we actually landed him back then. Quality player and would love it if he were to come to United. But like other, I too understand this just may be a play on the part of Bayern to get actual interested parties to hurry up with a bid.
 
Oh ok, if you say we can't then that's me convinced

There was this Bayern coach that was asked in October 2019 if Bayern could press like Liverpool.

The answer was that you cannot go 200 with a car that has a high speed of 100...

But that is history...
 
Don’t want him.

Good player, injury prone, 29.

Id prefer to sign players in the 18-23 bracket and try to build a squad for the next 4 years

And strange as it sounds, I think he’ll be a better signing for Liverpool than us. I think United need to build a squad, Liverpool just need a little injection of quality in midfield
He is going to cost us 27m pounds. How is that not squad building? This is how in my opinion you build squads.

Also if he is fit enough 30-40 games, that should be good enough. Because whenever he is fit, he will be our best player
 
This is what’s I’d do in your position or go for a CL and let him walk for free. Liverpool, PSG and City will be your biggest CL challengers. I’d argue add Thiago to Liverpool makes them favourites, so no idea why Bayern would do that. For what just 30mil euros, even during Covid is that gonna really help you financially.

We will do it because Thiago has been a model athlete over the past 7 years and we usually don't stand in the way of players who have rendered outstanding services for an extended period of time.
 
We will be getting Sancho and VDB. If we are adding Thiago to those two that means Ole would want to try Matic as a LCB. Given his discipline and ball playing ability, he could be a stop gap at LCB until we go in for a defender next summer.
 
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