A trophy already, if he was with us though, he'd have won three by now.
Thiago Alcantara at Bayern
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Was very good again. Bayern had so many players out and still looked fantastic. Amazing strength in depth.
They must be the one team that don't look any weaker when missing some of their top players. At this level of the game, anyway.
Was it on Christmas day?
Surely it's not a question worth asking is it ? It's obvious that for his interest, he should leave Bayern.
No, they're still runned by a bunch of cnuts. Great team though.
Considering that atm he has a starting spot in the national team for Brazil he would probably want to keep it and to have the chance to do so he needs to be an important player for a team that plays at a good level preferably the CL.
I said before that making a fair offer for him wouldn't be the worst thing we could do and adding a defensively strong midfielder to the squad wouldn't be the worst thing considering that otherwise Jones has to do this job.
For the big matches I feel it's important to have two defensively strong holding midfielders in a 4-2-3-1/4-4-1-1 to offer some extra protection for the defense, of course in the games against the weaker teams playing someone like Cleverly or Anderson will be another quality option.
I reckon for 15m € we could have a chance of getting him if he wants to leave.
Some arrogant goal from Thiago. Great stuff
So,
Schweinsteiger, Thiago, Martinez, Muller, Kroos and Goetze
That's six midfielders who would walk into most teams in the world. Reckon there will be lots of fiddling with other positions for most of them.
No idea how they manage to find gametime for Højbjerg with so much competition.
Schweinsteiger, Thiago, Martinez, Muller, Kroos and Goetze
That's six midfielders who would walk into most teams in the world. Reckon there will be lots of fiddling with other positions for most of them.
No idea how they manage to find gametime for Højbjerg with so much competition.
I reckon Bayern fans are going to be surprised how much better Thiago is than Kroos and it'll make it clear that Kroos isn't quite the top-tier talent he's made out to be.
Well, I look at it a bit differently. I think Kroos is a great talent but Thiago is a unique talent, they just have different strengths.
So now i have a couple of opinions on Kroos - positive ones, like Hermann Gerlands, youth development god, or that of Mehmet Scholl "Kroos is the best player i've ever seen at FCB", - and yours. Now, which one do i believe...? ...toughie...
He's still only 17 years old? Pretty sure he didn't expect to play a lot for the first team within his first 2 years at the club when he joined Bayern last summer.
Most Bayern fans aren't really enthusiastic about Kroos anyway. He's not the future of the club or german football and few would be surprised if he's benched more often than not in important games. I hope Guardiola will help him reach his potential though and use him in a way that suits his abilities best. I'm not sure that was the case in the past.
You've seen enough of Kroos to form your own opinion, no need to bring out 5 year old quotes from Scholl or Gerland.
Like watching the girl you've always had a thing for going off with a black guy with huge dick and filming a home made porn video you accidently come across on Pornhub.
I suggest you believe what you see rather than what you read. Lots of people see him as a top talent - I don't. I was just expressing that opinion rather than trying to convince others of it. Scholl undoubtedly has far more expertise on the subject and he was basically the same style of player so his opinion's worth listening to but ultimately I think you should just judge with your own eyes. If you think what he's shown at Bayern confirms these comments then fair play. I've seen nothing of the sort.
As a season ticket holder, i've watched him quite a bit. I think his talent can't be doubted, his composure on the ball is enormous, his shot is possibly the best in the Buli, up there with Arango. He isn't a very spectacular player, but i'ver very rarely seen him make mistakes. "With him, the ball is safe" Gerland said 4 years ago, and that hasn't changed. You'd have to watch them half a season to see as many blunders or missed passes from Kroos as Thiago had last night in one 30min half.
That being said, i'm not here to diss Thiago who seems to be a brilliant player. But there are situations where a small safe sideway pass benefits the team and the win more than a spectacular backheel followed by a pass that almost reaches Robben on his wing
For me, Kroos is similar to Ballack in his Bayern time: Sometimes frustrating to watch, seems to hold up the play occasionally, but in the end of the day, he was involved in most successful actions, made the crucial passes. Directing a team also involves to know when to slow down and when to speed up. Kroos does that. The question is, does it fit the way Pep wants the game to be played? Maybe Kroos would fit better in a different team like Leverkusen or Schalke. But a bad footballer he ain't.
Well, that escalated quickly. Is this therapy? Stop slapping your cock against the screen and get a proper girl.
I'll send you the bill later on.
Moyes opinion was he might not be able to cut it in the Prem? What was he smoking at the time, whatever it is I'll have some.
How do you know that was his opinion?
because the papaers said so!!!!
it wasn't even the papers, it was someone on twitter who was already completely incorrect about everything else he'd said regarding the transfer.
How nice was Ribery's assist in that video. Superb awareness to know what position Mandzukic had got himself into.
I still don't understand why Barca let him go. A club needs to stand by it's "principle" and not cave in to player power, I agree, but the lad's 22 already and should have been starting. It wasn't at all comparable to us and a certain Frenchkid.
---------------Busquets
------------Xavi-------Thiago
Neymar--------Messi---------Iniesta
With Fabregas, Pedro, Tello and Sanchez (they could have even sold Sanchez) ont he bench.
Anyway, what's done is done! Barca's loss is Bayern's gain.
FCBarca - do you think Barca's confident that Thiago will eventually want to come back to Barca, becuase he has something to prove or are those bridges burnt?
---------------Busquets
------------Xavi-------Thiago
Neymar--------Messi---------Iniesta
With Fabregas, Pedro, Tello and Sanchez (they could have even sold Sanchez) ont he bench.
Anyway, what's done is done! Barca's loss is Bayern's gain.
FCBarca - do you think Barca's confident that Thiago will eventually want to come back to Barca, becuase he has something to prove or are those bridges burnt?
No one is confident of that, I don't expect it myself. I don't know that bridges are burnt since nothing hostile occurred. He wanted to leave when the club was in position to either improve contract terms or assure him of his importance to the club, so returning isn't really in the cards. Plus, he's not Catalan - there isn't the same drive to come 'back home' per se.
You never know but I don't see it
Of course, but they still had the power to convince him to stay and they didnt.
How? They couldn't promise him a place among the first 11
Easy: Offer a new contract...
But that's exactly it though - if they offered him a place (or a 70% appearance clause) among the first XI - he would have stayed. So the power was with Barca, they just decided not to act on it, which is understandable. I just think they should have done a bit more to keep him. It's not like he was a 17 or 18 year old becoming impatient.
I did not know where to put this but this should put an end to "we were never interested in Thiago".
How could anybody seriously believe we where never in for Thiago, of course we where. And I still believe that if we had acted faster as soon as the season ended we would have signed him.
We don't know that though. That's a hunch. I don't know how any of us can strongly believe these things without knowing the ins and outs.
We've been chasing him for more than a year so its not like we didn't move quickly. Ultimately it came down to Guardiola. If Pep had stayed on his sabbatical rather than turning up at Bayern, Thiago would be our player at the moment.
I find it very hard to believe Thiago's agent being Pep's brother, we ever stood a serious chance once Pep decided he wanted to go for him. I'm also sure Thiago himself would've been aware that there was a possibility of joining Bayern through his agent. Just a series of unfortunate circumstances going against us on this deal, the positive to take from it is that we weren't rejected due to anything other than personal reasons.
@UnofficialDevil, when Bayern agreed a deal for Thiago, there were a plethora of reactions and one of them was "ah well, we were never in for him anyway. We never publicly declared our interest" As if we confirm interest in players regularly. I wanted it to be known we were interested. Hence, Mazinho's quote. The funny thing is, you will still have people deny it.
As if we confirm interest in players regularly. I wanted it to be known we were interested. Hence, Mazinho's quote. The funny thing is, you will still have people deny it.More from Mazinho:
We were never going to be able to compete with Guardiola for Thiago.
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We were never going to be able to compete with Guardiola for Thiago.
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My thought is if Bayern decided to say no to Pep's request for Thiago, he would have been ours. Top talent but I have no issue with the boy. I fully understand following a coach who has put his faith in you.
Might play against his former teammates today as Bayern play a charity match against Barcelona
So? was he amazing again today? Played 74 minutes in Bayern's 2-0 win against Barca, looks like he will be a regular starter after all.
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