Thiago Alc*ntara | Retires

He's not wank, but he's been terrible for Liverpool. Slows everything down, can't tackle to save his life. Occasionally plays a good forward pass but it boggles the mind that he's playing as the DM. It's a bit like Pogba, he's not dynamic enough currently to play that role, he has to be an AM for me. Henderson and Fabinho aren't as nice on the ball but they're a good level or two ahead of Thiago in all round midfield play currently, and yet they never get to play there.

I think playing in the Bundesliga where Bayern dominate games and an easy run in the CL (bar the final against PSG) warped people's view on him. He's pretty far from the genuine top class midfielders.
 
Well, I can't see where he goes from here. I just can't see Liverpool paying those 20 Milion that are left. That ship has sunk. Stunning. Will be an interesting summer.
 
He must be the worst signing in Premier League history. Since he’s been in the side and starting every game Liverpool have gone on an unimaginably bad run of form. Like literally no one could have forseen them losing 5 home games on the bounce. It’s absolutely hilarious.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
He must be the worst signing in Premier League history. Since he’s been in the side and starting every game Liverpool have gone on an unimaginably bad run of form. Like literally no one could have forseen them losing 5 home games on the bounce. It’s absolutely hilarious.
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He will be gone in the summer to raise some funds. Well that will be the excuse but we all will know the truth
 
I still remember our Thiago thread from that summer than ran into 1000 pages. That was epic muppetry. No body could have predicted what happened next.
 
DWelbz19 said:
Omerta. Real greaseball shit amongst the Bavarians. Nothing the Premier League can do; Thiago is a Bundesliga Made Man
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Thiago at Bayern was part of a great midfield and complemented this with his passing. He really was extraordinary in that. This midfield might need something different. He wanted to experience something new... I guess he never lost so many games before...
 
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Neville and jenas still think he's running the show because of one pass in the first 10 minutes against united?

Christ that was embarrassing and a prime example of narrative building from media
 
SER19 said:
Neville and jenas still think he's running the show because of one pass in the first 10 minutes against united?

Christ that was embarrassing and a prime example of narrative building from media
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That was terrible. Especially as he over hit a simple pass and ruined the attack a couple of seconds after
 


It's what I've been saying all season, the way Liverpool play at their best doesn't suit his skillset let alone the way they're playing now.
 
I rated him so much at Bayern, still think he would be great in another team/system, but feck me this is absolutely hilarious.

All forgiven for that "Moyes summer" when he went to Bayern.
 
Dancfc said:


It's what I've been saying all season, the way Liverpool play at their best doesn't suit his skillset let alone the way they're playing now.
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Yeah agreed, the irony of it all is whilst he is trying to be the Spanish Cattermole, the genuine Cattermole would suit this system much better.
 
How many genuine moments of quality has he had so far ? Forget team not playing well.. Liverpool still get forward in numbers and have pacey forwards and full backs that bomb forward all the time.. What is the world class midfielder sitting in the middle of the pitch doing to help them?

Looks like he needs 10 world class players playing well around him to show his true world class self. he can totally dominate games by passing it sideways then.
 
snk123 said:
Umm. It really doesn’t make any sense though.
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Yeah, I think I got out of bed the wrong side too today.

I mean doesn't it take almost every away manager a lot longer to lose 5 games at a stadium than a home player? Only not going to be the case very rarely. Scholes v Allardyce at Old Trafford to pick a random combination. Bet Scholes lost 5 before Big Sam in terms of time and Allardyce might well have lost on all of his first 5 visits.

Edit: Sad enough to check, Allardyce actually won on his first two trips then promptly lost 5 in a row. 7 years to lose 5.
 
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I wonder what people expect from him. Sometimes i hear people say, thiago is there for the creativity. I mean he can make line breaking passes, but creating chances has never been one of his qualities. The guy averages 1 goal and 2 assists per season. Most of his passes are safe, but he puts a little flair on it.

Imo last season and the bayern pr made him unbelievable overrated. Some were even saying the best midfielder in the world, but based on what? Last season was his best season. Before he couldnt even get ahead of a player like Koke in the Spanish team.
 
ryadmahrez said:
I wonder what people expect from him. Sometimes i hear people say, thiago is there for the creativity. I mean he can make line breaking passes, but creating chances has never been one of his qualities. The guy averages 1 goal and 2 assists per season. Most of his passes are safe, but he puts a little flair on it.

Imo last season and the bayern pr made him unbelievable overrated. Some were even saying the best midfielder in the world, but based on what? Last season was his best season. Before he couldnt even get ahead of a player like Koke in the Spanish team.
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Expected more penetrative passing. Didn't expect them to miss Henderson in CM with Thiago in there.
 
Just because Thiago is terrible right now doesn't mean he was never great. A quality player from 2014 - 2019 when healthy.
 
This is an example of a player who's grossly overrated. Klopp is putting his money on a dead horse and the sooner he realizes it the better. He's already shown the player far too much faith by giving him too many minutes. Salah was livid when subbed yesterday and had every right to be. Could backfire on Klopp if he doesn't count his losses with Thiago.
 
I didn't jump aboard this originally as he's obviously a quality player but damn he's had either feck all or a horrible impact on their team :lol:
 
He averaged an assist or goal every 7 games or something wasn't it?
 
Which club would even want him now? Massive wages with another 3 years left on the contract. I'll be very surprised if he leaves in the summer.
 
If he was available on a free in the Summer would you take him?
 
Harry Harries said:
Which club would even want him now? Massive wages with another 3 years left on the contract. I'll be very surprised if he leaves in the summer.
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Why would he leave anyways? If things are like this next year then the conversation becomes valid

ivaldo said:
If he was available on a free in the Summer would you take him?
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Absolutely. Have you seen our midfield?

Plus he's had a year to adjust to PL football.
 
This might be one of Liverpools worst signings in recent times. To be fair I don't think anyone genuinely thought he'd be this poor.

Some of it can of course be the ol' "not used to the league" trope, but for the announced quality, you'd think he'd be the category of player that is a boss anywhere he goes.
 
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