Thiago Alcântara | 2016/17 Performances

Aye, he's great. Certainly in the upper echelon of central midfielders currently.

Barcelona made a huge mistake letting him go. He'd be perfect for them right now. Would easily play ahead of Iniesta.
 
Lovely player to watch.

Only injuries'll prevent this guy from being the best player in the world in 2-3 years.
 
He's been great. But how long before he breaks down and gets injured again.

Can't say Barca have made a mistake until he actually stays clear of injuries and consistently is good.
 
Seeing as it's a hot topic in the Kante/Herrera debates, Thiago's interceptions stat is crazy. Bayern fans, is there any reason why they're so high?

League only;
Kante: 61
Herrera: 67
Thiago: 94 :D

I was looking at stats on Whoscored(I am a loser) and the top 15 teams in the top 5 leagues in interceptions were all from the Bundesliga I am guessing it is because all the pressing.

On Thiago I think he is the best in the World when fit but, I think this is the first season since he joined Bayern that he has been consistently fit.
 
Really? I don't watch Thiago every week, but anytime I've seen him, he's been largely superb. Also, what's wrong with that, nothing wrong with a flair player. I thought Man Utd liked their swashbuckling players?
Of course there's nothing wrong with having a flair player around, except when he's too much strolling around, in places where you better not joke around and not cutting out the flicks and 'hollywood-passes'. The (first) game where it mattered most against Atletico was the same old Thiago, IMO. He reminds me of Fabregas, meaning he has it in him to play that one pass that cuts the whole defensive wide open, but football isn't all that. He leaves his team open for counter attacks, more or less similar strengths and weaknesses as the aforementioned Cule.

Bayern have an incredible block of strong defensive players; In their midfield, Alonso still has great awareness and Vidal is a no-bullshit player. So he's well protected! Moreover it's easier to get away with a player such as Thiago in the Bundesliga than in the Premier-League, IMO.

I love Pogba and think that he is great and will become fantastic, but bar being stronger and having a slightly better shoot, Thiago is better than Pogba in pretty much everything. Passing, dribbling, reading the game, defensive contribution are all categories when Thiago is better than Pogba.

Expectation wise Pogba could have been better. Sure! But that doesn't make him the lesser player than Thiago, IMO.

Thiago edges Pogba when comparing their respective dribbling capabilities, but apart from that? Pogba plays also magnificent long balls, both of their short-passing is still flawed. If i were you i wouldn't underestimate the fact that Pogba has much better athleticism and with his body, his defensive contribution is in no-way any less then Thiagos'. Pogba isn't as naive as Thiago when it comes to losing the ball in dangerous areas. So, has Thiago really a better reading of the game?

Personally, i'd take Pogba more serious as a leader on the pitch. I think he actually tries, whereas with Thiago i'm not sure whether or not he'll give his all. During his final season Guardiola left him out from time to time and that's because he lost a bit of his trust, IMO.

Maybe in other countries it would be more close (doubt that), but for the Premier-League i think Pogba is the much better fit.

FWIW, our current team is completely built around him. There are 3 players we cannot afford to lose without suffering an immediate drop in quality: Neuer, Thiago and Lewandowski.
I know that Thiago can be outstanding with the ball at his feed, but personally i'd held Vidal in much higher regards than Thiago. I've seen how Ribery destroyed Schalke in the cup recently, i think he's still so important for your team and Robben has been playing quite well so far. Coman and especially Costa ain't all of that, IMO.

All players i'd take ahead of Thiago.
 
I think Kroos gets under-rated in these discussions (haven't seen his name at all in this thread). Technically and defensively he isn't as good as Modric but his passing is absolutely perfect and his set-pieces deliveries are one of real's main weapons. I haven't seen enough of any of them really, but I guess Modric, Thiago, Vidal, Kroos, Veratti are roughly in the same bracket.
 
I think Kroos gets under-rated in these discussions (haven't seen his name at all in this thread). Technically and defensively he isn't as good as Modric but his passing is absolutely perfect and his set-pieces deliveries are one of real's main weapons. I haven't seen enough of any of them really, but I guess Modric, Thiago, Vidal, Kroos, Veratti are roughly in the same bracket.

The one that got away :(
The only thing Modric has over him is mobility. Biggest transfer feck up ever from our board.
 
The one that got away :(
The only thing Modric has over him is mobility. Biggest transfer feck up ever from our board.
Mobility? No. Defensive IQ and dribbling(seriously, kroos can press but he can't defend at all)
 
Mobility? No. Defensive IQ and dribbling(seriously, kroos can press but he can't defend at all)

That is true. And it's also why I continue to ask myself why you kept playing him in that pensioner-like deep lying playmaker role. Everyone can pass 5 yards to the nearest full back, you don't need a Kroos for that.
 
IIRC, he just had to play one game and he wast tied to Barcelona but they ignored it. Crazy.
 
That is true. And it's also why I continue to ask myself why you kept playing him in that pensioner-like deep lying playmaker role. Everyone can pass 5 yards to the nearest full back, you don't need a Kroos for that.
Because Ancelotti thought to morph him into Pirlo 2.0. Zidane doesn't so he doesn't play him there. Worked just fine when we played the lineup of death with him modric james and isco
 
Because Ancelotti thought to morph him into Pirlo 2.0. Zidane doesn't so he doesn't play him there. Worked just fine when we played the lineup of death with him modric james and isco
That was in the first few months of 2014/15, when Bale was injured, right? Yes, Real played great football then. But things looked vastly different in season crunch time, and I'm not sure you can blame it all on Bale (though that's an acceptable explanation for me :lol: )
 
Probably my favorite player to watch right now
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I mean who pulls a fecking first touch elastico between two opponents:drool:
 
Probably my favorite player to watch right now
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I mean who pulls a fecking first touch elastico between two opponents:drool:

Wow, so there is actually a purpose to them apart from showboating.
 
So true, except it's more that the board pushed him away
And the fact that he did not want to stay himself since he was not getting enough time. I don't think it's the board to be blamed. It was down to coach and his inconsistency whilst actually getting quite some playing time. He didn't want to stay and "sit on the bench" no longer, so Barca let him go per se. It's always about player's will to stay and play, if they don't want to, they are always let go easily. Xavi had his fair share of sitting on the bench and waiting, so did Iniesta, Thiago, on the contrary, was unhappy and impatient and I've always found his attitude too privileged for his age and experience.
 
And the fact that he did not want to stay himself since he was not getting enough time. I don't think it's the board to be blamed. It was down to coach and his inconsistency whilst actually getting quite some playing time. He didn't want to stay and "sit on the bench" no longer, so Barca let him go per se. It's always about player's will to stay and play, if they don't want to, they are always let go easily. Xavi had his fair share of sitting on the bench and waiting, so did Iniesta, Thiago, on the contrary, was unhappy and impatient and I've always found his attitude too privileged for his age and experience.

There was a discernible drop in his minutes right after he signed a renewed contract that while it increased his buyout, it also allowed for a lower fee should he not be played in a certain number of matches - that in it of itself tells you that the board had already decided to prepare to cash in. Even the player himself didn't exercise the lower buyout clause despite lower minutes which tells you he wasn't looking to force a move but rather would be wooed by his former coach who Thiago himself emphasized trust in the player - something Tito &, more specifically, Roura were not. I doubt very much that Roura as an interim coach for Tito had the autonomy to decide Thiago's fate - that had to come from above, the board. Coupled with the rotten apple still in the squad, Cesc - something had to give, so they cashed in

Even the player himself pretty much stated that had Pep stayed at Barcelona, he'd still be at the club
 
That was in the first few months of 2014/15, when Bale was injured, right? Yes, Real played great football then. But things looked vastly different in season crunch time, and I'm not sure you can blame it all on Bale (though that's an acceptable explanation for me :lol: )
Nah, it was down to fitness and injuries. I can tell you this, cristiano ronaldo scored 61 goals that season, and i'm not sure he was better than james for us in 2014/15
 
Does anyone see similarities between Thiago and our Pereira?
I do and have said it before. Just think Thiago is bit technically more superior. But i really do see Andreas Pereira reaching his level.
 
I do and have said it before. Just think Thiago is bit technically more superior. But i really do see Andreas Pereira reaching his level.
Lolwut
 
Think he is world class tbh. I remember watching him in the u21's European Championship in 2011 and he was one of those players that you just knew was going to be special.
 
Think he is world class tbh. I remember watching him in the u21's European Championship in 2011 and he was one of those players that you just knew was going to be special.
Agreed. He's been my muppet signing for 4 years. Fantasric player, plus robbing him from barcelona :drool::drool::drool:
Too bad it wasn't meant to be

Best midfielder in the world this season
 
He's been great this season and, if it weren't for his injury woes, he'd probably be even better. Before this season I thought the injuries had hampered some of his talent as he wasn't playing to the level he is now, but it's nice to see that wasn't the case.

As @wythyred said, his talent was obvious watching the U21 Euros in '11 (alongside Isco IIRC - maybe I'm wrong here) and the fact that he didn't look out of place at all in the 11/12 season alongside the likes of Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas. He had a great pre-season that year, too.
 
Can't really be certain but increasing links & discussion for a possible return of Thiago :smirk:
I don't think you can afford him this year but next year might be possible. If he doesn't extend his contract until then, he'll probably leave.
I think he's going to stay though.
 
I don't think you can afford him this year but next year might be possible. If he doesn't extend his contract until then, he'll probably leave.
I think he's going to stay though.

Yeah, it seems hard to believe he'll return - especially to the same board
 
I think he'll return at some point tbh. Certainly not this coming summer though.
 
We need to shower him with money come extension time if he stays fit and keeps playing like that.
 
Our board rates him highly. Pretty sure they are already on the case. Still, I think he'll return to Barca in 2 or 3 years, depending on whether he extends once more or not. Which would be fair enough.
 
Our board rates him highly. Pretty sure they are already on the case. Still, I think he'll return to Barca in 2 or 3 years, depending on whether he extends once more or not. Which would be fair enough.

I'm optimistic he'll stay around for a good while longer. Our board supported him all the time during his long injuries, he enjoys the city a lot, and he probably won't have forgotten the "We sold a bench player for 25m, good deal"-comments from the current Barca board.
 
His face looks like a mixture between Alexis and Hazard.