Thiago Alcântara | 2016/17 Performances

fcbforever said:
Your Guardiola fandom really is appaling, you can't go a second without mentioning him can you? And yes: Heynckes got closer than Guardiola ever did to win it. With a squad far older, and he only took over halfway into the season. Speaks volumes in my opinion, but that's probably just me.



Mate, you don't wtch Bayern games except a few highlight reels. And sorry, but Thiago is surplus to requirements. He's not bad, but he never will be what we actually need in midfield. Because yes, as others have said: in his mind, he's an Arsenal player.
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You are making assumptions and showing how wrong you are. First of all, Thiago is not synonymous with Guardiola. Pep may have brought him to Bayern, but his best season was under Ancelotti. So it's non-sensical to make a debate on Thiago about Guardiola.

You are merely countering facts about Thiago's performance with false accusations like "You don't watch games" and repeating grandiose opinions like "he is an Arsenal player". How is that useful? If that's your idea of online debate then fine, I won't try to engage you in a conversation anymore.
 
SirMattBugsby said:
You are making assumptions and showing how wrong you are. First of all, Thiago is not synonymous with Guardiola. Pep may have brought him to Bayern, but his best season was under Ancelotti. So it's non-sensical to make a debate on Thiago about Guardiola.

You are merely countering facts about Thiago's performance with false accusations like "You don't watch games" and repeating grandiose opinions like "he is an Arsenal player". How is that useful? If that's your idea of online debate then fine, I won't try to engage you in a conversation anymore.
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Cool, you don’t have a clue anyway. And I didn’t bring Guardiola into this, someone else did.
 
Sorry guys, false alarm. I thought the opinion that Thiago should be sold was unanimous among Bayern fans but the bearer of that message turns out to be an ignorant extremist. As you were.

Adisa said:
It's a pity I can't see him playing for us.
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We do have Pogba in that role. Different physical characteristics but otherwise similar job description, no? I guess Thiago is more pass-and-move while Pogba likes to get into goal-scoring positions.

Agree though, delightful footballer and I hope he does well in the WC. Who knows, maybe next summer? :)
 
The last pages have been interesting. Bayern fans don't seem to rate him at all whereas United fans are telling them that they're wrong and Thiago is very good.

Strange thread. Surely those who watch him in every match's opinion should be counted more.
 
KM said:
The last pages have been interesting. Bayern fans don't seem to rate him at all whereas United fans are telling them that they're wrong and Thiago is very good.

Strange thread. Surely those who watch him in every match's opinion should be counted more.
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No need for rational thoughts in this thread mate.
 
KM said:
The last pages have been interesting. Bayern fans don't seem to rate him at all whereas United fans are telling them that they're wrong and Thiago is very good.

Strange thread. Surely those who watch him in every match's opinion should be counted more.
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Maybe Thiago isn't good enough for Bayern considering how good they are and ManUtd fans think Thiago is good considering how good we are?

Bayern had Schweinsteiger, Alonso, Martinez, Vidal who were all world class players (except maybe Alonso when he played for Bayern) and compared to them Thiago is not very good.

ManUtd fans have watced declining Carrick, Cleverley, Fellaini, declined Schweinsteriger in our midfield, so maybe they rated Thiago's performance higher.
 
Blackwidow said:
Thiago is not a 10 or a 10 is not what we need in this matches. We have too much possession we cannot convert into goals and our offensives are toothless. And because of errors in the defense we always seem to be the one that are behind what makes it a lot more difficult as you cannot risk getting another goal but need to put risk into your play to break the defense. But Thiago is not the one that can solve this problems directly. He is the guy with the ball who has to play behind the offensives - and that always worked great when he has 4 offensives in front of him. And what is a big game - the match against Porto 3 years ago for sure was one when we were 1:3 back after the first match.
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He isn't a 10 and I don't think many consider him to be one but he certainly is a 6 (or 8), the player basically to replace Schweinsteger/Kroos in central midfield and become the fulcrum of the side. He has certainly had great games, like the one you have mentioned against Porto, but he hasn't had them against the very best teams in Europe (A.Madrid, against whom I don't think he even played the 2nd leg, Barca and R.Madrid). Even Lewandowski, who now unanimously is condemned by Bayern fans as chocking in the biggest matches, played well against Porto and similar level teams.

In the matches where Bayern did play great aganist Madrid he was not the top performer, Vidal was much more influential last year while this year James was the one leading the midfield, not Thiago. Like the poster above mentioned, Thiago had large shoes to fill and I don't think he has managed to do that over his years. Schweinsteiger's ability in midfield was on another level to Thiago's. Sure he can be a good option to have in midfield, but he certainly shouldn't be a starter.
 
KM said:
The last pages have been interesting. Bayern fans don't seem to rate him at all whereas United fans are telling them that they're wrong and Thiago is very good.

Strange thread. Surely those who watch him in every match's opinion should be counted more.
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Yup. Of course we should trust Bayern fans more. Some United fans are still stuck in 2014.
 
KM said:
The last pages have been interesting. Bayern fans don't seem to rate him at all whereas United fans are telling them that they're wrong and Thiago is very good.

Strange thread. Surely those who watch him in every match's opinion should be counted more.
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United fans still obsessed with "the one that got away".
 
One of the consistently most overrated players in the game. He is just basically the Jack Wilshire of the ex Barcelona & Spanish team-therefore people are much more lenient with him in considering him a great player.
 
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kaiser1 said:
Talent to some people is completing 98% non risky passes to Kimmich Boateng and Hummels or showboating on social media. Talent to me is application on the field.
Despite Vidals age and misconducts(getting drunk, bar fights) many fans are ready to stick for him because he gives it all on the field.
James at the beginning many Bayern fans not enthusiastic about his purchase but he has won us over because he played hard, driving lay forward and earned it,
There are still errors in James midfield game which cause turnovers like vs Frankfurt but we can see the effort and forward play while trying to make thing happen, not just playing sideways safe passes to complete some 60 passes in our half on whoscored.
Bayern biggest problem is our slow transition where we have been emphasizing sterile midfield passes and possession over actually taking shots. We dominate possesion and looks like we lose focus of what to do with the ball. I won't mind surrendering some of those possession for more risky forward and penetrative plays
In Thagos 5 seasons his best game has been vs Arsenal last year in Munich. Other top games he has disappeared.

Still I wont want him sold yet, Renato and Vidal(sadly) can leave before Thiago. Maybe Kovac can make him a deep lying playmaker like Pirlo and have Tolliso/Goretzka and James do the running in front of him
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