Gaming The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

Redlambs said:
:lol:

But yeah, it does take the game down for me. There's no real sense of progression, or the need for collecting any loot. And for a loot game, it's a shocking design decision.

At least they could have Dark souls'd it and make the other weapons feel and act differently, but no, you might as well swing a pork sword and it'd behave the same.


Don't get me wrong, it's a great game as a whole, but nowhere near my top ten because if you strip away the interesting side quests, it's little more than Skyrim meets Shadow of Mordor.
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I understand your issues with rusty bandit sword vs relic sword but that doesn't mean there's no need to collect loot. You can choose to ignore the Witcher gear - which takes quite a bit of work to get and then upgrade, anyway - and rely on loot. Sure, there will be occasions when the Velen sword of random deserter #134 will be better than the ancient sword that has been in the ruling family for generations but this is not unheard of in video games and it hardly takes away from the overall experience because you'll still have plenty of occasions when you find a rare sword that's far more powerful than your previous one.

And yeah, the "if you take away some good things, the game isn't as good" was a bit of a daft statement. Especially as even without side quests this game's story, characters, atmosphere, world-building is still far above anything Skyrim did.
 
The reason I didn't touch the main quest today is because I went to sell some crappy gear to the Blacksmith in Novigrad.

... this somehow turned into accepting a side quest, which was huge, and included taking on a huge group of level 24 dwarfs at level 17.

This is the sort of stuff that gets you lost within this game. No other game manages that, not even Skyrim.
 
Siorac said:
I understand your issues with rusty bandit sword vs relic sword but that doesn't mean there's no need to collect loot. You can choose to ignore the Witcher gear - which takes quite a bit of work to get and then upgrade, anyway - and rely on loot. Sure, there will be occasions when the Velen sword of random deserter #134 will be better than the ancient sword that has been in the ruling family for generations but this is not unheard of in video games and it hardly takes away from the overall experience because you'll still have plenty of occasions when you find a rare sword that's far more powerful than your previous one.

And yeah, the "if you take away some good things, the game isn't as good" was a bit of a daft statement. Especially as even without side quests this game's story, characters, atmosphere, world-building is still far above anything Skyrim did.
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No, not really. Why does everyone always have to take some kind of offense when someone else doesn't see it as "omg greatest game ever!"

Of course I'm talking in my opinion, it did make the game more boring as it went along for me, only the story and side quests kept me going in some stretches. Is that wrong to say? Btw neither Skyrim nor Shadow or Mordor are crap games either, it was more a comment about how it is like the two merged. I should have worded it better as not to seem like a slight though, that's my bad ;)

Oh and I was using other weapons and armour. It doesn't stop me pointing out a design flaw, when the first two games did it much better.
 
Woodzy said:
The reason I didn't touch the main quest today is because I went to sell some crappy gear to the Blacksmith in Novigrad.

... this somehow turned into accepting a side quest, which was huge, and included taking on a huge group of level 24 dwarfs at level 17.

This is the sort of stuff that gets you lost within this game. No other game manages that, not even Skyrim.
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:lol: Funny you say that, I'm actually straight up sitting here watching my GF play it on her pro (trying not to spoil anything) and she just did the same thing. "Oh no, I'm forced into another quest!" :lol:
 
Redlambs said:
No, not really. Why does everyone always have to take some kind of offense when someone else doesn't see it as "omg greatest game ever!"

Of course I'm talking in my opinion, it did make the game more boring as it went along for me, only the story and side quests kept me going in some stretches. Is that wrong to say? Btw neither Skyrim nor Shadow or Mordor are crap games either, it was more a comment about how it is like the two merged. I should have worded it better as not to seem like a slight though, that's my bad ;)

Oh and I was using other weapons and armour. It doesn't stop me pointing out a design flaw, when the first two games did it much better.
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I didn't take offense :) I loved Shadow of Mordor; Skyrim bored me after like 20 hours.

I don't really see it as a big design flaw that has a significant impact on gameplay but it's true that I was focused on getting almost all of the Witcher gear and the upgrades so I never really paid attention to the other weapons and armour.
 
Redlambs said:
:lol: Funny you say that, I'm actually straight up sitting here watching my GF play it on her pro (trying not to spoil anything) and she just did the same thing. "Oh no, I'm forced into another quest!" :lol:
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My favourite is when, during random exploration, I accidentally complete a quest that I took ages ago and completely forgot about.
 
Siorac said:
I didn't take offense :) I loved Shadow of Mordor; Skyrim bored me after like 20 hours.

I don't really see it as a big design flaw that has a significant impact on gameplay but it's true that I was focused on getting almost all of the Witcher gear and the upgrades so I never really paid attention to the other weapons and armour.
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Skyrim really, really bored me and I don't understand the love for it. It's like they made a big world just for the sake of it: it feels so empty at times. THe world feels, in large stretches, liveless. I know that is just me and my opinion, but that's the thing that kills games for me.
 
fcbforever said:
Skyrim really, really bored me and I don't understand the love for it. It's like they made a big world just for the sake of it: it feels so empty at times. THe world feels, in large stretches, liveless. I know that is just me and my opinion, but that's the thing that kills games for me.
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At the time it was amazing. When I played it again recently, not so much so.

If you compare it to The Witcher 3, then it is lifeless. And you can see why people always mock the 'kill 5 mudcrabs' style quests.

Still, even though reading The Witcher books has helped me feel some attachment to Geralt, I'd love to be able to shape my own character within The Witcher 3's world, especially since they would have so many possibilities.
 
Siorac said:
I didn't take offense :) I loved Shadow of Mordor; Skyrim bored me after like 20 hours.

I don't really see it as a big design flaw that has a significant impact on gameplay but it's true that I was focused on getting almost all of the Witcher gear and the upgrades so I never really paid attention to the other weapons and armour.
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fcbforever said:
Skyrim really, really bored me and I don't understand the love for it. It's like they made a big world just for the sake of it: it feels so empty at times. THe world feels, in large stretches, liveless. I know that is just me and my opinion, but that's the thing that kills games for me.
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I remember I used to get loads of flack for slagging it off on here saying those exact things (and pointing out how heavily dumbed it is) :lol:

Siorac said:
My favourite is when, during random exploration, I accidentally complete a quest that I took ages ago and completely forgot about.
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See, now that's a big plus for this game. Much like the Dishonored series, it's one of those games that gets even better when you turn the markers and pointers off.

The only problem is Witcher is so huge, you can't do it all the time or you'd never get through it!


That being said, and to completely flip flop on the markers thing, another stupid design flaw was to only allow one mission to show up on the map at a time. This is Vanilla Morrowind levels of frustration :lol:
 
Woodzy said:
At the time it was amazing. When I played it again recently, not so much so.

If you compare it to The Witcher 3, then it is lifeless. And you can see why people always mock the 'kill 5 mudcrabs' style quests.

Still, even though reading The Witcher books has helped me feel some attachment to Geralt, I'd love to be able to shape my own character within The Witcher 3's world, especially since they would have so many possibilities.
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Witcher MMORPG :drool: Someone did say it would be hard to make it work though.
 
I need to get back into this game. Not played since I completed it.
 
Redlambs said:
I remember I used to get loads of flack for slagging it off on here saying those exact things (and pointing out how heavily dumbed it is) :lol:



See, now that's a big plus for this game. Much like the Dishonored series, it's one of those games that gets even better when you turn the markers and pointers off.

The only problem is Witcher is so huge, you can't do it all the time or you'd never get through it!


That being said, and to completely flip flop on the markers thing, another stupid design flaw was to only allow one mission to show up on the map at a time. This is Vanilla Morrowind levels of frustration :lol:
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I'm using a mod that fixes the map markers. Also, with friendly HUD I only ever show the compass with a pointer for the active quest.

In fact, I'm also using a mod to level up Witcher gear which fixes one of the other gripes you mentioned.

feck, I love PC gaming.
 
Woodzy said:
I'm using a mod that fixes the map markers. Also, with friendly HUD I only ever show the compass with a pointer for the active quest.

In fact, I'm also using a mod to level up Witcher gear which fixes one of the other gripes you mentioned.

feck, I love PC gaming.
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How much better is it though? It takes the game to an even higher level :)

Then again, with 120+ mods, Skyrim was turned into a really good game too. Just, and I must have said this a thousand times, still not a worthy game in the same line as Morrowind.

I probably shouldn't say it in here too, but I do prefer the world and lore of The Elder Scrolls. The books and stories far interested me more, though admittedly it may just be because I used to read them all in every game so by the time I got all the way to Witcher 3 I just generally was less inclined :lol:
 
Redlambs said:
How much better is it though? It takes the game to an even higher level :)

Then again, with 120+ mods, Skyrim was turned into a really good game too. Just, and I must have said this a thousand times, still not a worthy game in the same line as Morrowind.

I probably shouldn't say it in here too, but I do prefer the world and lore of The Elder Scrolls. The books and stories far interested me more, though admittedly it may just be because I used to read them all in every game so by the time I got all the way to Witcher 3 I just generally was less inclined :lol:
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I'm surprised at how smooth everything is running. I have about 20 installed, all which don't change the game massively granted, but still, you wouldn't notice it was a modded game.

Skyrim mods were amazing and one of the reasons I loved it. The Requiem mod was my favourite - made the world far more fun to just play in.

Still, I alsways found the Skyrim mods more unstable. In fact I'd spend just as much time setting up the mods as I would playing the game.

Tried to get back into it when the Enhanced edition released but the game just doesn't cut it anymore for me (as I think you actually predicted yourself at the time).
 
Woodzy said:
I'm surprised at how smooth everything is running. I have about 20 installed, all which don't change the game massively granted, but still, you wouldn't notice it was a modded game.

Skyrim mods were amazing and one of the reasons I loved it. The Requiem mod was my favourite - made the world far more fun to just play in.

Still, I alsways found the Skyrim mods more unstable. In fact I'd spend just as much time setting up the mods as I would playing the game.

Tried to get back into it when the Enhanced edition released but the game just doesn't cut it anymore for me (as I think you actually predicted yourself at the time).
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Yeah, especially after the Witcher 3 :lol:

As for Skyrim, I luckily never got much trouble. But then I used to be a modder myself and so manually installed everything. The best one for me was the war one, now that really made the world live!
 
Redlambs said:
It really is.

But that aside, if you ever get the chance play it with the re-balancing mods, it really does add a huge amount to an already great game but shows up what's missing from vanilla.
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The Witcher 3 a "loot game" :eek: I never once considered TW3 (or TW1 or TW2) a loot game at all, whatever that means. What's your criteria for whether something is a loot game or not? :p
 
whatwha said:
The Witcher 3 a "loot game" :eek: I never once considered TW3 (or TW1 or TW2) a loot game at all, whatever that means. What's your criteria for whether something is a loot game or not? :p
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It depends how you view the word doesn't it? Everyone calls Borderlands a loot game, but how does it differ to Witcher 3 in that regard? Both are mostly based on quests to get new gear and upgrades, both are more fun finding newer stuff to use. So what's the difference?

I think people get too hung up on labels these days, considering games blur genre lines all the time. Me personally, what I meant is exactly what I've said is a flaw for me. You spend so much time going around picking up all kinds of loot, yet most of it is pointless.

Luckily I used the mod to rebalance which believe me, greatly enhanced the experience as I like using relics and all the cool lore stuff in games. Some people don't care, and that's completely cool, but I do as I like that level of depth.
 
Woodzy said:
They should have you play as various monsters instead, with the Witchers being the enemies. That would be a laugh.
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Clans of Nekkers would compete ferociously to be the first who beat the final raid boss, Ravix of Fourhorn, aka Geralt of Rivia ^^
 
Just went back and finished the Keira side quest.

fecking hell, didn't see it coming that I would have to kill her!
 
Just got the expansions (heart of stone and the wine one) for Witcher 3 and I am super excited, witcher 3 is the greatest game of its kind that I've played. Project Red has almost perfected the art of game making in my humble opinion.

Any recos for games I should play after Witcher 3? I'm not an avid gamer but enjoy 3-5 hours per week. I have ps4.
 
Fridge chutney said:
Just got the expansions (heart of stone and the wine one) for Witcher 3 and I am super excited, witcher 3 is the greatest game of its kind that I've played. Project Red has almost perfected the art of game making in my humble opinion.

Any recos for games I should play after Witcher 3? I'm not an avid gamer but enjoy 3-5 hours per week. I have ps4.
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Nothing will compare, you've hit the peak of gaming.
 
gormless said:
You messed up. She's very useful later in the game if you keep her alive
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Ah shit. I could reload an earlier save but i'll just deal with it. The silly bitch was a liability anyway. Anyway, I'm guessing the game wouldn't punish you that bad for a choice it allows you to make, so it should be okay.
 
Woodzy said:
Just went back and finished the Keira side quest.

fecking hell, didn't see it coming that I would have to kill her!
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I did this too...all I wanted to do was shag her, but then she got lippy and the choice I made ended up with me having to fight her...
 
Loving this game by the way...

I've played about 30 hours now, and I'm still bumbling around Novigrad looking for Dandelion...I've just been in the bath house and one of the bodyguards told me "feck your mums tits" and then spat at me...

Also liked "Radovic sucks flaccid cock"

Charming.
 
Big Andy said:
Loving this game by the way...

I've played about 30 hours now, and I'm still bumbling around Novigrad looking for Dandelion...I've just been in the bath house and one of the bodyguards told me "feck your mums tits" and then spat at me...

Also liked "Radovic sucks flaccid cock"

Charming.
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That's about where I am at the moment and i've put in a similar amount of time.

I intended on focusing on the main quest so that I can at least finish it before it overwhelms me, but there's just too much to get distracted by. I spent hours just moving from one POI to the next yesterday.
 
Woodzy said:
That's about where I am at the moment and i've put in a similar amount of time.

I intended on focusing on the main quest so that I can at least finish it before it overwhelms me, but there's just too much to get distracted by. I spent hours just moving from one POI to the next yesterday.
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I'm just doing a side quest where I have to track that big feckers (the one whose leg geralt broke previously) stolen gold through the sewers...

I've just been running round trying to open up as many fast travel points as I can, for future quests which will no doubt require me to visit these places...some of these take me to places which are way above my current level, and I get killed a lot, but I've opened up some small settlements, way down in the South of the map as it stands currently...

I'm supposed to go to Skellige on a boat, to track down Ciri, but I'm still not quite ready to go there there yet, too much to do in Novigrad...
 
The only thing I don't like, is that it gives you options to talk to the general folk of the world, but they're really limited in what they can talk to you about...

I've tried to solicit sex from the various ladies of the world, but all I get is a couple of pre-determined lines...
 
The best part in the whole game for me was when 1 of the little kids or women (I can't remember which) called Gerald "Pusspeepers"

That had me in absolute stitches every time.
 
Big Andy said:
I'm just doing a side quest where I have to track that big feckers (the one whose leg geralt broke previously) stolen gold through the sewers...

I've just been running round trying to open up as many fast travel points as I can, for future quests which will no doubt require me to visit these places...some of these take me to places which are way above my current level, and I get killed a lot, but I've opened up some small settlements, way down in the South of the map as it stands currently...

I'm supposed to go to Skellige on a boat, to track down Ciri, but I'm still not quite ready to go there there yet, too much to do in Novigrad...
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Problem is if you leave it too long, you'll be way too leveled for the main quest and it all becomes trivial to play. You can mix it up, I found that made the game better knowing you could just come back to Velen at any point so you don't get bored of any one place.
 
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