Ahh, as it's from the trailer there's no real problem with it I guess. You should mention that it's from the trailer as well though, as it gives the impression that you already know what happens later this season otherwise.
I think they could have extended the cannibals a little more and given us a better back story of Terminus. As it is, they've pretty much rendered most of season 4 pointless and wasted an opportunity with the whole eating of kebob's infected leg.
The spoiler rules are a bit ridiculous tbh. Never seen a board get so worked up over people discussing scenes from next week which occur DURING the credits. Maybe you don't get them in the UK but even then those scenes don't reveal anything of substance that will happen, just the direction the next episode will go in.
A prominent poster (mod maybe) here got all worked up over someone mentioning Morgan returning at the end of the episode two weeks ago. Ranting and raving anf lambasting the guy over spoilers and rules and when someone pointed out that it wAs actually part of the episode itself - not even an apology. People need to relax unless someone is dropping inside knowledge of the show or comic spoilers..
I think they could have extended the cannibals a little more and given us a better back story of Terminus. As it is, they've pretty much rendered most of season 4 pointless and wasted an opportunity with the whole eating of kebob's infected leg.
I wholeheartedly disagree. One of the worst things about this show has been dragging out story lines unnecessarily. (The farm, anyone?) Just because season 4 ended at terminus doesn't mean we should be stuck with a Cannibal storyline for over half of season 5. The pace of this season has been excellent and the episodes have been entertaining. I'm definitely pleased.
Also, I hardly think the storyline over the guys eating bob's leg was wasted because... Cannibalism isn't exactly common. Is it really important whether the virus will kill you if you eat an infected person?
A prominent poster (mod maybe) here got all worked up over someone mentioning Morgan returning at the end of the episode two weeks ago. Ranting and raving anf lambasting the guy over spoilers and rules and when someone pointed out that it wAs actually part of the episode itself - not even an apology. People need to relax unless someone is dropping inside knowledge of the show or comic spoilers..
Anyway, the spoiler function works well on here, you may not like it but it's necessary. The place was far worse off before it existed.
*by the way, that 'scene' was after the 'next on' segment at the end so a lot of people missed it, seeing as lots of people don't want to see the 'next on'. no idea why they put it there and not before it, very odd.
I understand people not wanting things spoiled for them so things from interviews, leaked information should be kept in spoilers. The "next on" information I am so/so on. It is shown as part of the episodes broadcast so I don't have an issue with people discussing it. Part of me says that if you are so intent on not knowing anything until the episode is shown, then discussing the show on the internet might not be for you, or you just have to accept the risk.
Others disagree of course and the mods will set the rules, so that is that.
I understand people not wanting things spoiled for them so things from interviews, leaked information should be kept in spoilers. The "next on" information I am so/so on. It is shown as part of the episodes broadcast so I don't have an issue with people discussing it. Part of me says that if you are so intent on not knowing anything until the episode is shown, then discussing the show on the internet might not be for you, or you just have to accept the risk.
Others disagree of course and the mods will set the rules, so that is that.
Anyway, the spoiler function works well on here, you may not like it but it's necessary. The place was far worse off before it existed.
*by the way, that 'scene' was after the 'next on' segment at the end so a lot of people missed it, seeing as lots of people don't want to see the 'next on'. no idea why they put it there and not before it, very odd.
I hate spoilers as much as the next person. Game of Thrones threads are always treacherous for that. That scene with Morgan was a bit unusual in its placement, though.
Seems like the scenes from next week should be kosher, though?
Shit, you're right, it is Carver. In my defence, in my country it's a show of a affection to mix-up two people of the same skin colour. Just ask me Nan.
The spoiler rules are a bit ridiculous tbh. Never seen a board get so worked up over people discussing scenes from next week which occur DURING the credits. Maybe you don't get them in the UK but even then those scenes don't reveal anything of substance that will happen, just the direction the next episode will go in.
A prominent poster (mod maybe) here got all worked up over someone mentioning Morgan returning at the end of the episode two weeks ago. Ranting and raving anf lambasting the guy over spoilers and rules and when someone pointed out that it wAs actually part of the episode itself - not even an apology. People need to relax unless someone is dropping inside knowledge of the show or comic spoilers..
I wholeheartedly disagree. One of the worst things about this show has been dragging out story lines unnecessarily. (The farm, anyone?) Just because season 4 ended at terminus doesn't mean we should be stuck with a Cannibal storyline for over half of season 5. The pace of this season has been excellent and the episodes have been entertaining. I'm definitely pleased.
Also, I hardly think the storyline over the guys eating bob's leg was wasted because... Cannibalism isn't exactly common. Is it really important whether the virus will kill you if you eat an infected person?
So with you it's one way or another yeah? I knew I'd get a response like this.
In any case, I didn't say half a season, I said a little more. What is the point of making a big thing of terminus and these guys, if you are just going to kill them all in three episodes? What was the point of the infected meat jibe? It all got lost and is lazy writing. Cheap shocks is basically what they've gone for here, no?
They focus on all the wrong aspects. I like the overall storyline, but is it really that hard to get us to care at least a little about what happens to any of these characters?
So with you it's one way or another yeah? I knew I'd get a response like this.
In any case, I didn't say half a season, I said a little more. What is the point of making a big thing of terminus and these guys, if you are just going to kill them all in three episodes? What was the point of the infected meat jibe? It all got lost and is lazy writing. Cheap shocks is basically what they've gone for here, no?
They focus on all the wrong aspects. I like the overall storyline, but is it really that hard to get us to care at least a little about what happens to any of these characters?
I think the whole point of the infected meat jibe was to instill a sense of urgency. Gareth and those lads were going to stalk and slowly pick apart Rick's crew but they got scared in to thinking that their time to get even was cut short (whether it was or wasn't I think may be answered in the comics - I haven't read them - but I guess we don't know).
I personally just think that spending the whole half season (first 8 episodes) on this, or even another 2 or 3, would have been too much when we have the car with the cross/Beth's disappearance to deal with, the trip to DC and
the potentially imminent arrival of a highly anticipated character (although that could still take a while)
. IMO the Cannibals' purpose was to bring to the forefront again the cut throat nature of the world and remind the crew that it's a kill or be killed kind of world. That scene in the church was powerful. I don't think the show would have benefited from 6-8 episodes of the crew being stalked around the church by Gareth and them. Time to move on. Just my opinion, of course, but I love that the show hasn't dwelled on that issue and is moving on to a storyline I'm much more interested in
and hopefully the reveal of the shows next villain
So with you it's one way or another yeah? I knew I'd get a response like this.
In any case, I didn't say half a season, I said a little more. What is the point of making a big thing of terminus and these guys, if you are just going to kill them all in three episodes? What was the point of the infected meat jibe? It all got lost and is lazy writing. Cheap shocks is basically what they've gone for here, no?
They focus on all the wrong aspects. I like the overall storyline, but is it really that hard to get us to care at least a little about what happens to any of these characters?
I know comic book talk is strongly frowned upon in this thread, but in order to answer your question, it is kind of relevant. The hunter arc IIRC (and my memory is quite hazy) was very short in the books, so the show writers decided to expand it with the Terminus storyline.
As someone who read the books, I am really loving season 5 so far, and absolutely loved the last episode. The dialogue at the beginning between Bob and Gareth are almost done exactly as in the comics, and I loved it. Don't get me wrong I have a lot of gripes with the show, but they did very well tying up the hunter story arc, IMO.
The spoiler rules are a bit ridiculous tbh. Never seen a board get so worked up over people discussing scenes from next week which occur DURING the credits. Maybe you don't get them in the UK but even then those scenes don't reveal anything of substance that will happen, just the direction the next episode will go in.
A prominent poster (mod maybe) here got all worked up over someone mentioning Morgan returning at the end of the episode two weeks ago. Ranting and raving anf lambasting the guy over spoilers and rules and when someone pointed out that it wAs actually part of the episode itself - not even an apology. People need to relax unless someone is dropping inside knowledge of the show or comic spoilers..
The rules specifically prohibit anything that isnt in an already aired episode and this includes trailers, interviews and "next week on". Anything that even hints at inside knowledge of future events can totally spoil.someone's enjoyment.
I think the whole point of the infected meat jibe was to instill a sense of urgency. Gareth and those lads were going to stalk and slowly pick apart Rick's crew but they got scared in to thinking that their time to get even was cut short (whether it was or wasn't I think may be answered in the comics - I haven't read them - but I guess we don't know).
I personally just think that spending the whole half season (first 8 episodes) on this, or even another 2 or 3, would have been too much when we have the car with the cross/Beth's disappearance to deal with, the trip to DC and
the potentially imminent arrival of a highly anticipated character (although that could still take a while)
. IMO the Cannibals' purpose was to bring to the forefront again the cut throat nature of the world and remind the crew that it's a kill or be killed kind of world. That scene in the church was powerful. I don't think the show would have benefited from 6-8 episodes of the crew being stalked around the church by Gareth and them. Time to move on. Just my opinion, of course, but I love that the show hasn't dwelled on that issue and is moving on to a storyline I'm much more interested in
and hopefully the reveal of the shows next villain
I know exactly where you are coming from mate. I just think they've spent long periods on boring stuff, ruined what I assume was a decent comic character in the Governor (I found those two flashback episodes the most boring of them all) and generally stalled interest by stretching stuff out, so when they spend all last season building up to something, and some possibly interesting bad guys finally, they just kind of sweep it all under the carpet and write episode to episode.
Again I'm not saying it should be half a season, but considering the rubbish they've put out trying (and largely failing) to get us to care about the characters up to now, I think there's something more that could and should have been done. I'm pretty bored with the same old moral dilemas and looks on faces when something bad happens and terrible dialogue between the group to kill air time.
I completely agree that back on the road is best though, long may it continue.
I know comic book talk is strongly frowned upon in this thread, but in order to answer your question, it is kind of relevant. The hunter arc IIRC (and my memory is quite hazy) was very short in the books, so the show writers decided to expand it with the Terminus storyline.
As someone who read the books, I am really loving season 5 so far, and absolutely loved the last episode. The dialogue at the beginning between Bob and Gareth are almost done exactly as in the comics, and I loved it. Don't get me wrong I have a lot of gripes with the show, but they did very well tying up the hunter story arc, IMO.
Interesting, thanks. I'm coming at it without knowing a thing about the comics, so that's probably why I'm seeing it as strange and uneven, whereas you guys are expecting it.
In any case this season has started better than most of the last three's best, so hopefully it continues.
I know exactly where you are coming from mate. I just think they've spent long periods on boring stuff, ruined what I assume was a decent comic character in the Governor (I found those two flashback episodes the most boring of them all) and generally stalled interest by stretching stuff out, so when they spend all last season building up to something, and some possibly interesting bad guys finally, they just kind of sweep it all under the carpet and write episode to episode.
Again I'm not saying it should be half a season, but considering the rubbish they've put out trying (and largely failing) to get us to care about the characters up to now, I think there's something more that could and should have been done. I'm pretty bored with the same old moral dilemas and looks on faces when something bad happens and terrible dialogue between the group to kill air time.
I completely agree that back on the road is best though, long may it continue.
One thig I'll add - a thread on another board I frequent had a poster that said the comics are WAY ahead, i.e. the show is through less than half of the comics. Perhaps the producers will start to speed up the story a bit and we won't have situations like the prolonged stay at the farm or two flashback episodes like the ones you mentioned. I would imagine that the usual constraints of TV such as contracts ending, actors having conflicts and actors aging may require a faster progression.
Regardless, I wholeheartedly agree that it's been a great start to the season.
What's the big deal about Lennie James? He's been in the show, what, two times? Yet everybody (not necessarily you) creams themselves at the mere mention of his name. Is he a cult hero or something?
What's the big deal about Lennie James? He's been in the show, what, two times? Yet everybody (not necessarily you) creams themselves at the mere mention of his name. Is he a cult hero or something?
What's the big deal about Lennie James? He's been in the show, what, two times? Yet everybody (not necessarily you) creams themselves at the mere mention of his name. Is he a cult hero or something?
I hope they'll reach Washington sooner than later for the sake of changing the show's scenery. To be painfully honest the middle of a feckin nowhere is getting slightly old. Bigger agglomeration can be also great and even more terrifying thing for 'walker' apocalypse.
Not hating on the show, though. Love it with it's oldschool gore/horror violence and level of insecurity on pretty much every character.
Was this the first ep that none of the regular cast appeared? Im was hoping to see who was with Daryl....I think its the black kid...also guessing Carol is faking just to get into the hospital and rescue Beth.
Was this the first ep that none of the regular cast appeared? Im was hoping to see who was with Daryl....I think its the black kid...also guessing Carol is faking just to get into the hospital and rescue Beth.
that's a pretty good theory considering Daryl wouldn't have left her unprotected for no reason. I do however think that Noah is the person that was in the bushes at the end of the previous episode and Daryl, Noah & the rest are going to plan on how to get them out
The acting when that guy was shoving a lollipop in her mouth was
Enjoyed the episode though.
In accordance with my theory that they have a fixed quota of black guys for the show, I'm fully expecting Carver fron The Wire to be killed or left behind in the next episode.
I know comic book talk is strongly frowned upon in this thread, but in order to answer your question, it is kind of relevant. The hunter arc IIRC (and my memory is quite hazy) was very short in the books, so the show writers decided to expand it with the Terminus storyline.
As someone who read the books, I am really loving season 5 so far, and absolutely loved the last episode. The dialogue at the beginning between Bob and Gareth are almost done exactly as in the comics, and I loved it. Don't get me wrong I have a lot of gripes with the show, but they did very well tying up the hunter story arc, IMO.
Was this the first ep that none of the regular cast appeared? Im was hoping to see who was with Daryl....I think its the black kid...also guessing Carol is faking just to get into the hospital and rescue Beth.
His post was regarding a story line that had ended at the time he posted it and included about zero details except to say a scene followed a scene from the comics. There is nothing spoilerish about his post at all unless you're reading a thread about a TV show before you watch the latest episode...
I watched that scene multiple times and still couldn't figure out who it was. Thought it was a dude!
His post was regarding a story line that had ended at the time he posted it and included about zero details except to say a scene followed a scene from the comics. There is nothing spoilerish about his post at all unless you're reading a thread about a TV show before you watch the latest episode...
Didn't like this episode, I don't care about Beth, therefore Beth centric storylines are just, meh. That creepy cop was like something from a comic book .... sorry eboue.