The vaccines | vaxxed boosted unvaxxed? New poll

How's your immunity looking? Had covid - vote twice - vax status and then again for infection status

  • Vaxxed but no booster

  • Boostered

  • Still waiting in queue for first vaccine dose

  • Won't get vaxxed (unless I have to for travel/work etc)

  • Past infection with covid + I've been vaccinated

  • Past infection with covid - I've not been vaccinated

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weird thing with me -

One of my BCG scars flared up when I got my vaccines, the same one each time.
The top one. ( Not sure non Irish people get BCG)
 
McGrathsipan said:
weird thing with me -

One of my BCG scars flared up when I got my vaccines, the same one each time.
The top one. ( Not sure non Irish people get BCG)
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UK get it i just never had to have it as i was already immune when they did that tester shot beforehand.
 
golden_blunder said:
I and my brothers have hereditary heart disease,. including a gene that can lead to dilated cardiomyopathy. As you’re probably aware, I’ve had quadruple bypass, aortic valve replaced, ablations and on a lifetime of drugs. We’ve all had our vaccinations with no issues. Get them into you. There’s more risk for you not having them.
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Damn! Glad to see you're a strong fellow. Even stronger now that you're vaccinated too.

I'll give a similar example of a 50 year old footy mate who has an abnormally enlarged heart, so pretty delicate, and a pace maker. And obviously all the drugs that go along with heart issues. He had both AZ jabs done and dusted by April.

Thankfully my mate is not an idiot and would like to live a long life while at the same time also not killing others.
 
christy87 said:
Got my first jab today the phizer riser, ok bar the arm feeling like someone has given it a few punches, as someone who hates needle's I usually look away, didn't even feel it, was wondering did I actually get jabbed for a while, definitely an easier injection than B12s.
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That's what my first one was like. I'm needle phobic and I couldn't believe how painless it was, which really helped my ability to cope. To be honest, I had some doubt they'd done anything at all.

I felt the second one though! Even though it was administered by the same nurse, at my request. I think I didn't relax my arm enough maybe.
 
Dumbstar said:
Damn! Glad to see you're a strong fellow. Even stronger now that you're vaccinated too.

I'll give a similar example of a 50 year old footy mate who has an abnormally enlarged heart, so pretty delicate, and a pace maker. And obviously all the drugs that go along with heart issues. He had both AZ jabs done and dusted by April.

Thankfully my mate is not an idiot and would like to live a long life while at the same time also not killing others.
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Good on your pal. He’s medically vulnerable so I’m sure he would like to meet his mates without having to worry so much. There’s more chance of catching this dumb virus and it’s unpredictable nature than there is of some nasty side effects

as for me and my family, what can you do but get on with it? That’s the cards that have been dealt
 
Dan_F said:
Anyone had luck reducing their second jab to below the 8 week gap in the UK? I keep seeing conflicting info about the walk in clinics.
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I did. I explained I had a bad phobia, so was going to sites I felt familiar with, and the one I was at was closing down. The nurse okayed it. She also said exceptions could be made for people with caring responsibilities, if that's of any help.
 
decorativeed said:
I did. I explained I had a bad phobia, so was going to sites I felt familiar with, and the one I was at was closing down. The nurse okayed it. She also said exceptions could be made for people with caring responsibilities, if that's of any help.
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Not sure I could use those excuses, I’m a terrible liar.

I have my my second jab on a Monday, which is the start of my annual leave and bang on 8 weeks. It’s selfish I know, but I don’t want to get a bad reaction and not be able to enjoy my time off; added to this I wanted to drive down to Cornwall (4 hours) and see family that week.
 
Dan_F said:
Not sure I could use those excuses, I’m a terrible liar.

I have my my second jab on a Monday, which is the start of my annual leave and bang on 8 weeks. It’s selfish I know, but I don’t want to get a bad reaction and not be able to enjoy my time off; added to this I wanted to drive down to Cornwall (4 hours) and see family that week.
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Rang one to ask the same about getting mine before the 8 weeks it's booked at and they said while they advise to stick to the 8 week gap if you turn up later in the day and it's not busy they wouldn't turn me away if there was still availability. Not had chance yet and my 2nd is on the 6th August so probably just end up waiting now but I know of others who got theirs early and others who were turned away so seems to just be at the vaccination centre's discretion to a certaint extent. If you've got the time then it could be worth going down an hour or so before they close and just chancing it, could say you can't make the day of your booking anymore and it's not given you any alternative dates without having to cancel.
 
Dan_F said:
Not sure I could use those excuses, I’m a terrible liar.

I have my my second jab on a Monday, which is the start of my annual leave and bang on 8 weeks. It’s selfish I know, but I don’t want to get a bad reaction and not be able to enjoy my time off; added to this I wanted to drive down to Cornwall (4 hours) and see family that week.
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If it makes you feel better, I, my wife and my manager all had zero reactions or after effects from ours.
 
Dan_F said:
Not sure I could use those excuses, I’m a terrible liar.

I have my my second jab on a Monday, which is the start of my annual leave and bang on 8 weeks. It’s selfish I know, but I don’t want to get a bad reaction and not be able to enjoy my time off; added to this I wanted to drive down to Cornwall (4 hours) and see family that week.
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Mine only lasted 24 hours. You'll be alright.
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
Mine only lasted 24 hours. You'll be alright.
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decorativeed said:
If it makes you feel better, I, my wife and my manager all had zero reactions or after effects from ours.
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Santos J said:
Rang one to ask the same about getting mine before the 8 weeks it's booked at and they said while they advise to stick to the 8 week gap if you turn up later in the day and it's not busy they wouldn't turn me away if there was still availability. Not had chance yet and my 2nd is on the 6th August so probably just end up waiting now but I know of others who got theirs early and others who were turned away so seems to just be at the vaccination centre's discretion to a certaint extent. If you've got the time then it could be worth going down an hour or so before they close and just chancing it, could say you can't make the day of your booking anymore and it's not given you any alternative dates without having to cancel.
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Ive read a few things about my local one being really strict about it, so I think I’ll just chance it and hope I react the same as the first, which was completely fine.
 
Dan_F said:
Ive read a few things about my local one being really strict about it, so I think I’ll just chance it and hope I react the same as the first, which was completely fine.
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I had no problems from my first shot (Pfizer) but my second was Moderna and my body reacted quickly to it. Just aches and pains, slight fever and chills, nothing serious but I had a good moan about it :lol:
 
The holy trinity 68 said:
You can still catch Covid and can still spread it even if you have had the vaccine. If that one person wants to be at a higher risk to their health, then why does it matter to everyone else?
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But the more people that take the vaccine the less there is for the virus to take hold

the virus can’t walk. People do
 
The holy trinity 68 said:
You can still catch Covid and can still spread it even if you have had the vaccine. If that one person wants to be at a higher risk to their health, then why does it matter to everyone else?
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Because "on average" you're less likely to catch it and "on average" you're less likely to pass it on.

It's the same as if you walk up to the pedestrian crossing on the main road. On average if you press the button and the lights change in your favour and you walk across, it's safer than closing your eyes, shutting your ears, ignoring the traffic and crossing anyway. No guarantees either way of course. But the chances are that you're safer (and so are those in the vehicles approaching and that blind granny who you're helping cross) if the traffic are stopping because of red lights and you walk when you get the go sign.
 
The holy trinity 68 said:
You can still catch Covid and can still spread it even if you have had the vaccine. If that one person wants to be at a higher risk to their health, then why does it matter to everyone else?
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You catch it far far less often and pass it on far less often. It isn't only your health you are risking by not getting vaccinated. It is just being incredibly selfish.
 
My second AZ gave me less cold/flu like symptoms than the first shot. The first night I had joint pain which made an already strained ankle very painful and I was freezing cold at night. 100% today.
 
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My second Pfizer gave me less cold/flu like symptoms than the first shot. The first night I had joint pain which made an already strained ankle very painful and I was freezing cold at night. 100% today.
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I had to put a long sleeve top and socks on! :lol:

Wibble said:
You catch it far far less often and pass it on far less often. It isn't only your health you are risking by not getting vaccinated. It is just being incredibly selfish.
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And are less likely to be hospitalized or die from it.
 
Pogue Mahone said:


This thread does exactly what it says on the tin. Very long and involved though, be warned.
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This is where I am on the idea of boosters. From her thread.



So far Pfizer and Moderna have proven effective. I am not sure of the need to check antibodies, when real life clinical data is what matters and what has been excellent so far. I get the idea of boosters for elderly and immunocompromised, just to be safe but even there I don't think there is data that they are not protected as well, afaik.
 
mav_9me said:
This is where I am on the idea of boosters. From her thread.



So far Pfizer and Moderna have proven effective. I am not sure of the need to check antibodies, when real life clinical data is what matters and what has been excellent so far. I get the idea of boosters for elderly and immunocompromised, just to be safe but even there I don't think there is data that they are not protected as well, afaik.
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Yep. That’s where I’m at too. Although she makes a great point that boosters might not be something we do every year forever. It’s possible that three doses is the optimum to give very long term protection. We just don’t know the best dosing regimen yet because these were developed so quickly.
 
jojojo said:
I'm currently due to go to Ireland early August - on a much delayed part business/part leisure trip. I doubt that will happen with my current status (I don't think that's long enough for a fix to emerge even if Ireland does open up) so my partner may have to do it alone.
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And so it came to pass... As I suspected, participation in the Novavax clinical trial means that while my NHS Pass now shows me as fully vaccinated for UK domestic events and for foreign travel, reality says something different.

I contacted the Irish Embassy in London this morning and they confirm that they're only accepting the EU approved vaccines. Which means that if I travel I'll need a PCR test and to go into (home) quarantine on arrival.

One thing that some in the UK might find helpful is this list of acceptable vaccines from their email to me:
2 doses of Pfizer-BioNtech Vaccine: BNT162b2 (Comirnaty®) + 7 days

2 doses of Moderna Vaccine: CX-024414 (Moderna®) + 14 days

2 doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca Vaccine: ChAdOx1-SARS-COV-2 (Vaxzevria® or Covishield) + 15 days

1 dose of Johnson & Johnson/Janssen Vaccine: Ad26.COV2-S [recombinant] (Janssen®) + 14 days

Covishield is the India made version of the Oxford/AZ. Good to see that it's been accepted.

@lynchie - I guess this may affect you as well, or have you been able to switch to an approved vaccine?
 
Cooksen said:
What Vaccines have most of you in the UK had?
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Nationally 20m first doses of Pfizer, 25m first doses of Az. Around 1m first doses of Moderna.

Currently, first doses are more or less entirely Pfizer or Moderna.
 
jojojo said:
And so it came to pass... As I suspected, participation in the Novavax clinical trial means that while my NHS Pass now shows me as fully vaccinated for UK domestic events and for foreign travel, reality says something different.

I contacted the Irish Embassy in London this morning and they confirm that they're only accepting the EU approved vaccines. Which means that if I travel I'll need a PCR test and to go into (home) quarantine on arrival.

One thing that some in the UK might find helpful is this list of acceptable vaccines from their email to me:
2 doses of Pfizer-BioNtech Vaccine: BNT162b2 (Comirnaty®) + 7 days

2 doses of Moderna Vaccine: CX-024414 (Moderna®) + 14 days

2 doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca Vaccine: ChAdOx1-SARS-COV-2 (Vaxzevria® or Covishield) + 15 days

1 dose of Johnson & Johnson/Janssen Vaccine: Ad26.COV2-S [recombinant] (Janssen®) + 14 days

Covishield is the India made version of the Oxford/AZ. Good to see that it's been accepted.

@lynchie - I guess this may affect you as well, or have you been able to switch to an approved vaccine?
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That’s shite. Sorry to hear it.
 
jojojo said:
And so it came to pass... As I suspected, participation in the Novavax clinical trial means that while my NHS Pass now shows me as fully vaccinated for UK domestic events and for foreign travel, reality says something different.

I contacted the Irish Embassy in London this morning and they confirm that they're only accepting the EU approved vaccines. Which means that if I travel I'll need a PCR test and to go into (home) quarantine on arrival.

One thing that some in the UK might find helpful is this list of acceptable vaccines from their email to me:
2 doses of Pfizer-BioNtech Vaccine: BNT162b2 (Comirnaty®) + 7 days

2 doses of Moderna Vaccine: CX-024414 (Moderna®) + 14 days

2 doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca Vaccine: ChAdOx1-SARS-COV-2 (Vaxzevria® or Covishield) + 15 days

1 dose of Johnson & Johnson/Janssen Vaccine: Ad26.COV2-S [recombinant] (Janssen®) + 14 days

Covishield is the India made version of the Oxford/AZ. Good to see that it's been accepted.

@lynchie - I guess this may affect you as well, or have you been able to switch to an approved vaccine?
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That really sucks. I take it the quarantine makes it no longer viable as a trip?
 
Bosws87 said:
Yeh i know was just pointing someone in the right direction, its human nature to fear things like this when thrown in front of you and ignore the 100million plus people that are completely fine.
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And it was appreciated. I was hoping the original poster had some actual data or evidence but it was, as suspected, total bollocks.
 
New England journal publication yesterday
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

Pertaining to delta variant

Protection against symptomatic disease
  • AZ one dose - 30%
  • AZ two doses - 67%
  • Pfizer one dose - 36%
  • Pfizer two doses - 88%
Data was collected after 14 days post second dose so perhaps AZ two-dose efficacy might be higher with time. Will be interested to see Israeli data vs delta (a lot of stuff in the press recently but none that I could find in a proper study/scientific publication type) and whether our extended dosing interval between two doses has had an effect regarding delta possibly.

To note also previous data against severe disease/hospitalisation of which AZ and pfizer both perform quite well according to public health england.
https://khub.net/web/phe-national/public-library/-/document_library/v2WsRK3ZlEig/view_file/479607329?_com_liferay_document_library_web_portlet_DLPortlet_INSTANCE_v2WsRK3ZlEig_redirect=https://khub.net:443/web/phe-national/public-library/-/document_library/v2WsRK3ZlEig/view/479607266

Protection against hospitalisation
  • AZ one dose - 71%
  • AZ two doses - 92%
  • Pfizer one dose - 94%
  • Pfizer two doses - 96%
Reinforces point about maximising people getting vaccinated, with either one, and both jabs as quickly as possible. The hospital clinical endpoint is really the thing that should concern us. Delta is a bastard but the vaccines luckily hold up just about enough against being life threatening

From a case rate point of view, I don't believe many are in the AZ one dose category (majority of the elderly who've received it have had two jabs of it), there were a decent amount of 16-64 clinically vulnerable but they were high in the JCVI priority list so we've given them their second AZ a month or so ago. And younger patients without any significant comorbidities in UK recently vaccinated have been Pfizer or Moderna.
 
My 18 yo daughter just got her first Pfizer jab and within 15 minutes she's got most of her old long covid symptoms attacking her. Along with dizziness.

Fatigue, chest pains, uncomfortable feelings in limbs, squeezing head. Not severe but disconcerting nevertheless. I'm glad in a way because it's showing how much of the virus continued to survive even after she felt 95% better from her year-long long covid. Scientists for the win!

For those hesitant after reading the above, it should serve as a stark reminder what a bastard this virus is. Even after 15 months it's festered in my daughter. Get that jab and don't delay.
 
The holy trinity 68 said:


You can still catch Covid and can still spread it even if you have had the vaccine. If that one person wants to be at a higher risk to their health, then why does it matter to everyone else?
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But your chances are much reduced. You understand that a 20% chance of catching it is better than a 100% chance, right?
 
Dumbstar said:
My 18 yo daughter just got her first Pfizer jab and within 15 minutes she's got most of her old long covid symptoms attacking her. Along with dizziness.

Fatigue, chest pains, uncomfortable feelings in limbs, squeezing head. Not severe but disconcerting nevertheless. I'm glad in a way because it's showing how much of the virus continued to survive even after she felt 95% better from her year-long long covid. Scientists for the win!

For those hesitant after reading the above, it should serve as a stark reminder what a bastard this virus is. Even after 15 months it's festered in my daughter. Get that jab and don't delay.
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It’s not the virus still in her. It’s her immune system reacting to something it’s seen before.
 
jojojo said:
And so it came to pass... As I suspected, participation in the Novavax clinical trial means that while my NHS Pass now shows me as fully vaccinated for UK domestic events and for foreign travel, reality says something different.

I contacted the Irish Embassy in London this morning and they confirm that they're only accepting the EU approved vaccines. Which means that if I travel I'll need a PCR test and to go into (home) quarantine on arrival.

One thing that some in the UK might find helpful is this list of acceptable vaccines from their email to me:
2 doses of Pfizer-BioNtech Vaccine: BNT162b2 (Comirnaty®) + 7 days

2 doses of Moderna Vaccine: CX-024414 (Moderna®) + 14 days

2 doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca Vaccine: ChAdOx1-SARS-COV-2 (Vaxzevria® or Covishield) + 15 days

1 dose of Johnson & Johnson/Janssen Vaccine: Ad26.COV2-S [recombinant] (Janssen®) + 14 days

Covishield is the India made version of the Oxford/AZ. Good to see that it's been accepted.

@lynchie - I guess this may affect you as well, or have you been able to switch to an approved vaccine?
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That's a bummer. I think it's no more than 50/50 whether I see my parents this year. Haven't seen my dad in person since 2019, and with France now amber+ for whatever reason, even though we're all fully vaccinated, it'd still cost a load in tests and we'd be knocking about the house quarantined either way.
 
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