https://www.jwatch.org/na53268/2021/03/17/weighing-timing-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccines-second-dose
Is there a recommended duration between doses for AZ in the UK?..
Is there a recommended duration between doses for AZ in the UK?..
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It's handy that you can actually buy it. There's no facility for that in Europe, of course, it's needs-based.
The BBC's reporting of Covid has turned really quite strange.
The numbers within a subset of the population are above what would normally be expected and need investigating. There would not be so many stoppages and restrictions if there was nothing going on.
They're also leading with the headline today that Italy is going back into a major lockdown as we battle rising cases...wish they'd told us about this in Italy.
I think is not ok to be able to buy it. Because that makes people with resources go first in line in front of poor people that might need it more
Yes, I wasn't aware we'd ever left the major lockdown. We've been red for ages now.
Yeah nothing has changed here either. If anything it's been relaxed as you can mix with other households over Easter.
As I say, ever since the AZ spat BBC reporting has been far less balanced than usual.
Government is providing vaccines to 50 and above for free ( Sinopharm),but it doesn't have the resources to get everyone vaccinated anytime soon so they have allowed the private sector to import vaccines and sell them.
Everything's shut here, but "everything" is two coffee bars, basically. The grocery shop and the chemist are open, as ever. I'm beginning to think it'll always be like this in the village, quite honestly!
There's a lot of various news outlets reporting Italy's lockdown.
Arabnews has drones and helicopters police Italy's easter lockdown. Lots of mention of strict in many articles from New Zealand and so on. Seems just a general associated press news story like any other. I was going to say I can only see BBC reporting about about France today but it's gone from the corona page already and main news page, the Italy story was long gone, it's not some big deal. Sounds a bit tin foil.
Arabnews has drones and helicopters police Italy's easter lockdown. Lots of mention of strict in many articles from New Zealand and so on. Seems just a general associated press news story like any other. I was going to say I can only see BBC reporting about about France today but it's gone from the corona page already and main news page, the Italy story was long gone, it's not some big deal. Sounds a bit tin foil.
I get my second dose of Moderna tomorrow morning. Can't wait! Except for the immune response part. I'll report back my symptoms and their severity if I have them.
By the end of April, all of my friends in NC will have been fully vaccinated (second dose plus two weeks). Most of us are some form of essential worker or got leftovers (mostly in our early 30s). The federal government (under Trump) and many state governments have completely blown the initial COVID response, but the vaccine rollout has been pretty good, at least in North Carolina. The struggle now will be breaking through to the people who weren't eagerly trying to get the vaccine ASAP.
By the end of April, all of my friends in NC will have been fully vaccinated (second dose plus two weeks). Most of us are some form of essential worker or got leftovers (mostly in our early 30s). The federal government (under Trump) and many state governments have completely blown the initial COVID response, but the vaccine rollout has been pretty good, at least in North Carolina. The struggle now will be breaking through to the people who weren't eagerly trying to get the vaccine ASAP.
My second dose of Moderna is due 26th April.
I wish you well and keep us updated please.
Thanks.
Wish you well
Wife said she read that some transplant recipients had to take 3 rounds. 
It could be true. They will want to check your antibody response, probably a couple of weeks after the second round.Wife said she read that some transplant recipients had to take 3 rounds.
Not a fan of needles. Would be easier to prepare for another transplant (ignoring the needles that are needed then).
I wish you well fella. Don’t be too down, at least you’ve had your first.Wife said she read that some transplant recipients had to take 3 rounds.
And somehow you just knew that AstraZeneca was going to get the blame. Apparently the plant who screwed up muddled up the J&J and AZ formulations.
The FDA have now ordered J&J to run the plant themselves and only make the J&J vaccine on site. AZ will relocate.
https://www.ft.com/content/3906ee0c-8062-496c-9bb7-d1814a30bdf3
Just got my 2nd (Pfizer) jab this morning. It hurt slightly more than the 1st jab.
Got my 2nd Pfizer jab on Wednesday, another step closer to normality hopefully
It'll be fine, the woman who put in the first shot was great. Let me decide when to do it and technique to use.
Just hope i'm lucky enough to get her the next time(s) as well, although with the baby-bump she had I have my doubts.
Have you had yours yet, Geebs?
No im still dreaming of getting oneIt'll be fine, the woman who put in the first shot was great. Let me decide when to do it and technique to use.
Just hope i'm lucky enough to get her the next time(s) as well, although with the baby-bump she had I have my doubts.
Have you had yours yet, Geebs?
That’s hilarious. It’s beyond parody how often AZ screws things up. This latest fiasco also doesn’t fit with the EU scapegoating AZ for their own failings rhetoric.
Any idea of when it will be your turn?
I was in the 4th priority group here, so took a bit longer than I initially thought before i got the call.
To be fair this doesn’t look like it has anything to do with AZ, rather a third party contracted to run the plant
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...on-johnson-factory-ruined-doses-b1826678.html
I expected the same when i got my 2nd Pfizer 12 days ago, but nothing really happened. The only interesting bit was they gave me a proof of vaccination card that said this round of two vaccinations is good for 6 months, after which I presumably have to do it all over again, or else get a single booster shot.
That shows how bad their PR has become
It's not AZ's fault. They used (with the FDA's encouragement) the same sub-contractor manufacturing plant that J&J were placed in (also with the FDA's encouragement). It's the third party contractor who has screwed up.
Just to complete the story - Novavax were the company who originally hired the Emergent group as sub-contract manufacturers for their vaccine. But they got thrown out of one of their other plants by the FDA to allow J&J. That set Novavax's US trial and the initial production back by about two months. They're now using Fuji as their subs, which was oddly good news for the UK as Fuji had a site in Teeside as well.
Dunno, I was in the 5th category but since they changed how they’re doing it, I’m now 7th out of 9. I think.
Sorry, I didn't realise it was paywalled. I was just being sarcastic about AZ's run of luck. Even when it's not their fault, it's still somehow their fault. PR nightmare stuff.
It was quiet in Florence this weekend but people were still out walking and takeaway food was widely available. The traditional firework burning cart thing was done but without the crowds. The police don't really care about folk walking about but I've heard from several that they are checking cars. I carry a form with me whenever I'm out just in case.
In Italy the very last group is 16 to 59-year-olds with no health conditions. Tough on my friend here who's 58 - but as I told her, she's getting it last because she's healthy, which is a good thing.
It's shocking that you haven't had your jab yet, geebs. It's the same strange prioritisation here, they have vaccinated police officers before it's even been offered to people who are very clinically vulnerable or have serious disabilities.
I’m hanging in there, but I’ll not lie, it’ll make a huge difference to us all.
The prioritisation in Ireland is different to what you describe. Clinically most vulnerable are being vaccinated already. The recent change has been to focus on risk of a bad outcome, rather than risk of exposure (professions etc) Which has the unions up in arms.
I can see both positions, really. All hospital and social care staff were vaccinated first here - first the clinicians and then the administrative staff. I can see that we need to make sure that health care can keep going. But then on the other hand, many of those admin staff are young, healthy people.
In a way, if we'd vaccinated all the healthy 20 to 40-year-olds first it would have massively slowed the spread. The over-80s and the disabled aren't the ones who are passing it around.
What you describe is what happened in Ireland. HCWs were vaccinated first (along with care home residents/staff) After that it’s been a focus on the most elderly and clinically vulnerable.
The initial plans also involved prioritising police, teachers etc but that’s been shelved to focus on those likely to get most sick.
Vaccinating the young first would be a good idea if we were 100% confident that vaccines prevent spread. Without that certainty you’re making a decision to allow preventable elderly deaths based on a hunch. So not really an acceptable option.
Absolutely zero info on international travel. Waste of fecking time.
Yes, that's true. I thought that Italy did the right thing to protect the health and social care workers first, but the roll-out for elderly people has been painfully slow. The Italian press is saying we have a serious shortage of vaccines.
The shortages should be over soon. We’ve seen a huge increase in supply over the last week or so and are supposed to be injecting as many people this month as in the previous three combined. Hopefully you see a similar turnaround in Italy very soon. I’m sure you will.
I think that the increase in production will happen continuously, now for the next few months or even years, so the vaccine shortage will alleviate over the next few months.
I gotta say, the EU really messed up their vaccine program. While the UK got their orders in early, the EU took too long and now because they are at the back of the queue, they are suffering.
Yeah I’m hoping something changes regarding this soon. At the very least if we manage to get enough people vaccinated (not sure what’s deemed an acceptable number) and the USA continues on its trajectory that border might be reopened.
It might be selfish but I have loved ones I haven’t seen in over a year and being stuck inside for a year has taken its toll. Obviously doesn’t help seeing so many blatantly disregard the rules.