Music The Ultimate Metal thread.

Ainu said:
You might've mistaken my post as the tired old criticism of trigger use in drumming, but it wasn't meant like that. Like I said, I'm sure lots of extreme metal bands do it and I have no problem with it whatsoever. I've got no time for so called purists myself. Hell I even love a good mix of extreme metal and electronic stuff, such as on the latest (and utterly brilliant) Igorrr album.

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Oh no, that wasn't aimed at you at all, more so the people @Verbalkint had said criticised the band for possibly using programmed drums, and how I don't get why it matters at all, so long as the band produces a record that sounds as good as it can be. You're right though, there's definitely a lot of purists, especially in Black Metal, who really don't like it, or like any of the newer BM stuff (newer being anything post-1994, it seems). Black Metal purists are definitely some of the weirdest music fans :lol:

I do love some visceral electronic drum sounds. I didn't know Igorrr had a new record either. I'm gonna need to go listen to that asap!
 
Ainu said:
Well the production on the drum sound is downright weird on the album in my opinion. And he does sound a little sloppy on live footage, so I can see where they're coming from. I wouldn't have though about it being a drum computer, but definitely triggered and/or corrected during post-production. I'm sure that happens on a lot of extreme metal albums though.
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Yeah man, it certainly seems triggered... I guess it's essential above a certain bpm. The sound's definitely a bit muddy on the album but i wouldn't have suspected a computer :)

Now Raymond Herrera - he was on a different level though. Seemed so robotic and unnatural and back then i guess it was okay to suspect something was amiss.
 
I love Vomitory. Please reform. Cut Up isn't bad, but doesn't compare. Enjoy.

 
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Been delving into a bit of black metal myself recently. Never really explored the genre much but i watched a few documentaries about the genres origins and got curious. Wasn't too keen on A Blaze in the Northern Sky at first listen but when i had a second listen through headphones it was far better, think i lost a lot listening through shitty old laptop speakers :lol: Also been back to Immortal's early stuff cos i'd only really listened to At the Heart of Winter (which is fecking brilliant) and Sons of Northern Darkness before. Have to say, Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism is good stuff, it's nice that it's not overly lengthy too. I think a lot of albums seem to be mammoth in terms of playtime lately, so something a bit shorter but full throttle is refreshing to listen to. Also, the video for Call of the Wintermoon is now a piece of metal folklore :lol: :

 
TheSamulator said:
Also, the video for Call of the Wintermoon is now a piece of metal folklore :lol: :
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that video is legendary. I've never really liked BM in general, let alone Immortal but I had that video on my desktop for a couple of years, purely because it made me feel better everytime I watched it. also, this:



pure gold.
 
Saw Gaahl in Bergen last week and it made me think of this brilliant song of theirs:

 
Any Acid Bath fans? Just got their debut and I think my ears might be melting.
 
2 Man Midfield said:
Any Acid Bath fans? Just got their debut and I think my ears might be melting.
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Oh aye lad. I'm all about The Blue off the first record and Diab Soule off the second. A mate of mine is mad about Dax Riggs so I've heard most of his other stuff including a load of solo work. Nothing quite like the Bath though!
 
12OunceEpilogue said:
Oh aye lad. I'm all about The Blue off the first record and Diab Soule off the second. A mate of mine is mad about Dax Riggs so I've heard most of his other stuff including a load of solo work. Nothing quite like the Bath though!
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Yeah The Blue and Jezebel are standouts so far. He's some vocalist.
 
Decent. Love that stripped down classic Death Metal sound, when every Death band seems to be technical beyond belief. I'm not fond of that bassists vocals though. The guitarist is a much better vocalist.
 
The bassist was the front man from Vomitory (probably my favourite metal band of all time). Two other members of Vomitory are also in the band (the drummer, who is one of them, played on the last Amon Amarth album, too). The other vocalist is from Fetus Stench.
 
TheSamulator said:
Been delving into a bit of black metal myself recently. Never really explored the genre much but i watched a few documentaries about the genres origins and got curious. Wasn't too keen on A Blaze in the Northern Sky at first listen but when i had a second listen through headphones it was far better, think i lost a lot listening through shitty old laptop speakers :lol: Also been back to Immortal's early stuff cos i'd only really listened to At the Heart of Winter (which is fecking brilliant) and Sons of Northern Darkness before. Have to say, Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism is good stuff, it's nice that it's not overly lengthy too. I think a lot of albums seem to be mammoth in terms of playtime lately, so something a bit shorter but full throttle is refreshing to listen to. Also, the video for Call of the Wintermoon is now a piece of metal folklore :lol: :
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Immortal are pretty much the class clowns of black metal. They don't take it seriously.

With black metal, you would be better off going with the really unique bands rather than the usual Burzum/Emperor template. Like the following:

BlackLodge - Industrial Black Metal. The harsh landscape of industrial metal with the evil rawness of black metal...what could possibly be better?



Oranssi Pazuzu - Psychedelic Black Metal. You don't need Shrooms to get trippy with this one. Absolutely weird blend of psychedelic music and black metal.



Blut Aus Nord - Avante-Garde/Ambient Black Metal. Absolute genius, enough said.



Deathspell Omega - Dissonant, Atonal Black Metal. You have to give this a close listen, as it is an acquired taste to penetrate that furious maelstrom of sound and discern the nuances, but this is an absolutely phenomenal band.

 
Damnation in Leeds tomorrow. I'm sneaking up tonight after work for fun and frolics in preparation for (among other top quality offerings) this beauty in full and uninterrupted:

 
12OunceEpilogue said:
Damnation in Leeds tomorrow. I'm sneaking up tonight after work for fun and frolics in preparation for (among other top quality offerings) this beauty in full and uninterrupted:

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Seems like a great festival. I really wanted to go back in 2015 but decided it was just too far away. What a killer line-up that was with the likes of At The Gates, High on Fire, Amenra, Altar of Plagues, Solstafir, The Ocean, Oathbreaker, Voices and many more. If I lived any closer to it I wouldn't have hesitated for a single second. This year seems pretty good as well, Nails, Pallbearer, Leprous, Bloodbath, Nordic Giants, loads of variety and quality bands. Enjoy!
 
Listening to the old Burzum stuff at the moment. My two favourite songs from them, especially the first one.



 
The Bloody-Nine said:
I looooooove this one. From my favourite Testament album.

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It's a fantastic album with Dave Lombardo on drums and Death bassist Steve Di Giorgio and Death guitarist James Murphy and it sounded a lot darker and heavier than previous work.. The album was really easy to make according to Chuck Billy as Eric Peterson and Dave Lombardo just kept ideas coming and flowing and tracks were recorded straight away almost.. It sounds great and is one of my favourite metal albums. Never got recognised as one as sales suffered from the distributor going bankrupt and the records getting sealed due to that.
 
The Bloody-Nine said:
If you haven't already, you should watch this from the beginning.

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Seen it.

Also you should check out some of the monologues Varg Vikernes has on YouTube about the early metal scene in Norway. The guy is a bit twisted and preach a lot of ideology, but his inside knowledge on the origin and behind the scenes stuff from the Norwegian black metal scene is very interesting.

I think the YouTube channel is called Thulean Perspective or something like that.
 
SwansonsTache said:
Seen it.

Also you should check out some of the monologues Varg Vikernes has on YouTube about the early metal scene in Norway. The guy is a bit twisted and preach a lot of ideology, but his inside knowledge on the origin and behind the scenes stuff from the Norwegian black metal scene is very interesting.

I think the YouTube channel is called Thulean Perspective or something like that.
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It is.
 
Ainu said:
Seems like a great festival. I really wanted to go back in 2015 but decided it was just too far away. What a killer line-up that was with the likes of At The Gates, High on Fire, Amenra, Altar of Plagues, Solstafir, The Ocean, Oathbreaker, Voices and many more. If I lived any closer to it I wouldn't have hesitated for a single second. This year seems pretty good as well, Nails, Pallbearer, Leprous, Bloodbath, Nordic Giants, loads of variety and quality bands. Enjoy!
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Aye, it was brilliant. Pallbearer were quality (interrupted by a fire alarm towards the end of their set unfortunately) and I hugely enjoyed Warning, Big Business, Dying Fetus and Sodom among others.
 
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