The Trump Presidency - Part 2
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
I don't feel bad for the ones who had the chance to vote but declined. They helped to enable this.
Nope. No clue. But it would have happened at some point And I'd be a lot more confident about long term peace if we had a ceasefire negotiated under a president who isn't as utterly self-serving as Donald Trump.
The plus point in this regard about Trump’s personality is that he won’t share billing with or be unduly influenced by Netanyahu, who I strongly suspect he doesn’t like in the first instance.
All reporting from the U.S., Israel, and Qatar indicates that this is true.
Hopefully. It would be a rare win for the world if two pig headed arseholes extreme obstinacy somehow cancelled each other out.
And you don’t have to be a Trump supporter to come to it either.
Oh absolutely, likewise I've got no sympathy for the ones that don't bother themselves but that goes for any election across the world.
Aren't the 'right' constantly bringing up the constitution when anything related to gun laws is brought up. This will go against the constitution that they seem to love so much with trying to end birthright citizenship.I guess the constitution is only important when it is in favor of the things they want.
I guess the constitution is only important when it is in favor of the things they want.
The constitution says whatever the Supreme Court says it says. There's enough ambiguity to the 14th Amendment phrase "subject to the jurisdiction of" that SCOTUS could go against precedent and overturn its current meaning; essentially arguing that in reality 'illegal immigrants' remain subjects of their home countries and that this status should properly extend to their offspring.
I wouldn't be too surprised if this ended in a 5-4 decision either way.
Similar to Brexit?
It's gonna be the best Gulf, the biggest Gulf, the greatest Gulf anyone has ever seen
So it took him less than 24 hours to declare that the US will leave the Paris Climate Agreement. I mean, why wouldn't he. It's the rich who pollute the climate and the poor paying the price for it. I think going forward, the success of climate protection will depend on whether billionaires can be held accountable for their actions or not. And it's looking increasingly less likely that the law makers and enforcers are going to take care of this. At this point in time, I almost expect there'll be a civil war in the US eventually.
Come off it.
Y'all are smuggly wanking each other by scapegoating easy targets, dunking on the Arab/Muslim voters. As if it mattered when over half of the country voted for this piece of shit and the Dems got dog walked on every single level in the last election.
You got the leader you deserve.
He’s not my leader but ok.
Unless a significant number of people gain class consciousness and the Democrats reform themself into something resembling a workers party, the US will continue down this path. MAGA basically controls all branches of the government and have huge influence on several types of media, so they can continue to both make roadblocks to Democrats returning to power, and continuously poison the mind of the electorate. I really don't see how this gets turned around.
As for violence, I don't think a civil war is particularly likely, but I wouldn't bet against more assassination attempts.
Can't really say, I'm not British and I didn't really follow the vote that closely back then.
I have little doubt that when the killing starts again it will be Biden's deal that is to blame.
Hardly a surprise seeing as he initiated the process last go around.
One positive surprise for me last time was that individual states with sane leadership stepped up their own commitments to environmental measures. Can only hope for the same now, and that the administration don’t find a way to hamper those efforts.
I think there will definitely be assassination attempts like the one on the insurance company CEO and radicalization of climate protectors, especially with the US' landscape that's very prone to climate change amplified nature catastrophes. I'll never get why people who are obscenely rich already sacrifice their freedom and security for even more wealth by destabilizing a society completely needlessly.
We can only hope
Many of them are psychopaths.
The next in line guy is not really much better than he is though, isn't he? Talking about Trump/Vance dynamic here.
That’s why you gotta go deep, pile em high
Really don’t have the energy for it this time, I just find the constant news of corruption and policy making that is designed to destroy society and destroy the planet completely and utterly exhausting. With the added misery that this time around I have a beautiful, innocent little two year old boy and it’s his world that is being corrupted and his future that is at stake and these bad actor politicians and technocrats are hell bent on creating a dystopia.
Birthright citizenship, or citizenship via birthright.... surely that is the only true basis for granting citizenship?
Or, is it that nationality is being confused with citizenship?
Seems like Trump is wanting to solve one problem over Gender, and at the same time creating another over birthrights.. human rights lawyers will be rubbing their hands in glee!!
Or, is it that nationality is being confused with citizenship?
Seems like Trump is wanting to solve one problem over Gender, and at the same time creating another over birthrights.. human rights lawyers will be rubbing their hands in glee!!
Seriously???
I think the message would be more impactful. Play stupid games, win stupid prices.
I'm with you there. Welcome to parenthood in the distopia. It's depressing as feck reading what he's managed to do in a single day already and imagining the consequences of it for our kids. Especially when it was all so inevitable and avoidable.
Advocating murder and assassination from what I can tell, that's a bit too far in my opinion.
I've 2 young children now and it fills me with a deep existential dread about it all. I think I'll take a break from this thread and recover from this onslaught and then get back to my activism roots when I've a little more energy. Might help you to @Pexbo, to put this thread on ignore and go hug your boy when you can
Those people are killers themselves if you ask me. Only difference is, they do it to innocents, on a far bigger scale and out of detestable motives. We don't mourn Russian oligarchs killed by Putin either, do we?
It’s not far enough
There's a discernable difference between wanting someone dead and not mourning for them.....
It is.
It really is.
Birthright citizenship, i.e. jus soli (“right of soil”), is only really common in the Americas.
Most countries in the rest of the world grant nationality at birth based upon the principle of jus sanguinis ("right of blood"), in which nationality is inherited through parents rather than birthplace, or a restricted version of jus soli in which nationality by birthplace is automatic only for the children of certain immigrants. Ireland was the last European country to grant nationality based on unconditional or near-unconditional jus soli, but that ended in 2004.
Just out of interest, is there anyone you want dead right now? Where do you draw the line?
Putin? Assad? Whoever heads ISIS these days?
There are precisely zero people I want dead right now, I'd rather justice prevail for the aforementioned, and that doesn't involve death in my opinion.
Morality is massively skewed of people are actively wanting assassination attempts and killings on the streets and seeing it as a positive thing.