The Trump Presidency - Part 2

WPMUFC said:
as you can see from the comments, their only comeback atm is, "at least he's listening to constituents". They've got nothing.
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They have though, in around two weeks they have the House, Senate, Supreme Court and the Presidency.

They may have just lost a vote on their bill, but they stopped a bill that was highly likely to succeed and by stopping that and presenting the one they did, they removed $190 MILLION in funding towards kids with cancer..... Apparently that was Musk's call.

That's not nothing. That's pure evil.
 
langster said:
They have though, in around two weeks they have the House, Senate, Supreme Court and the Presidency.

They may have just lost a vote on their bill, but they stopped a bill that was highly likely to succeed and by stopping that and presenting the one they did, they removed $190 MILLION in funding towards kids with cancer..... Apparently that was Musk's call.

That's not nothing. That's pure evil.
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i wasn't talking that broadly. I'm solely talking about getting Trump to hate his inner circle. Right now they are getting some traction with the "President Musk" Stuff and we can only hope that gets to Trump and hurts his paper-tissue ego.
 
Unelected individuals interfering in democracy for their own personal reasons. Tinpot democracy levels. Absolute joke. Sign of times to come in the UK if Musk donates to Reform. He will want something back for his money.
 
TheGame said:
Unelected individuals interfering in democracy for their own personal reasons. Tinpot democracy levels. Absolute joke. Sign of times to come in the UK if Musk donates to Reform. He will want something back for his money.
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The Musk donation to Reform probably to do with Trump asking him to do that. Trump and Musk are definitely not friends of the UK and just want to disrupt relationships with them.
 
VorZakone said:
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The largest exports are medicines, pharmaceutical products and machinery for factories and power plants. Someone might want to tell his voters that tariffs on the EU just means that they will have to pay more for medicine, medical treatment and electricity.
 
WPMUFC said:
Oh wowi wasn't talking that broadly. I'm solely talking about getting Trump to hate his inner circle. Right now they are getting some traction with the "President Musk" Stuff and we can only hope that gets to Trump and hurts his paper-tissue ego.
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That's not the problem though and in the grand scheme of things means feck all.

Throughout Trumps last term, you know, the one where he kept on and on about only hiring the best people, yet (thankfully) from the very beginning he hired fecking morons, nothing will change this time except the amount of damage he will cause.

Laurencio said:
The largest exports are medicines, pharmaceutical products and machinery for factories and power plants. Someone might want to tell his voters that tariffs on the EU just means that they will have to pay more for medicine, medical treatment and electricity.
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feck them. It's time the EU and UK and Scandinavia got together as we all share more common interests. It's time to tell the US to feck off. Their arrogance and how they treat everyone else is disgusting. If they want to bully the rest of us so their own people suffer, let them. Maybe then the people will wake up and work things out for themselves.


We need Hugh Grant as PM. He would sort it out. Just ask Billy Bob.
 


I joked in the election thread that Trump winning would be good for Palestine, and ... I'm beginning to buy my own bs.
Trump and RFK do enough of this nationally and there won't be a superpower to hold Israel's hand through the remaining steps of the cleansing.
Fingers crossed!
 
berbatrick said:


I joked in the election thread that Trump winning would be good for Palestine, and ... I'm beginning to buy my own bs.
Trump and RFK do enough of this nationally and there won't be a superpower to hold Israel's hand through the remaining steps of the cleansing.
Fingers crossed!
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I was kinda hoping he'd ease off on his antivaxx grift now he's in a position of power

people are gonna die if this becomes the new normal for America
 
berbatrick said:


I joked in the election thread that Trump winning would be good for Palestine, and ... I'm beginning to buy my own bs.
Trump and RFK do enough of this nationally and there won't be a superpower to hold Israel's hand through the remaining steps of the cleansing.
Fingers crossed!
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Unfortunately Louisiana is run by some real inept dickwards which is a shame since there are real progressive people that live in and near my area but this is the least of our worries, COVID didn't actually hit us too hard here so that might of been a reason for this
 
I dunno if Trump will jettison Elon that quickly given the amount of power and influence he wields. He'll want Elon around to get one of his maga cronies in in 2028 too.

I can't see RFK lasting the term though. The vast majority of people obviiously don't want this antivax shite and if he influences policy there will be a strong pushback.
 
Tarrou said:
I dunno if Trump will jettison Elon that quickly given the amount of power and influence he wields. He'll want Elon around to get one of his maga cronies in in 2028 too.

I can't see RFK lasting the term though. The vast majority of people obviiously don't want this antivax shite and if he influences policy there will be a strong pushback.
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Not sure about the vast majority. The lack of trust in the government and media has spread everywhere. Conspiracy theories are off the chart and the amount of anti-vaxxers is see now, especially since COVID is insane. It definitely seems like it is becoming a sizeable percentage of the US population. I wouldn't be shocked if it was up around 1/4
 
langster said:
Not sure about the vast majority. The lack of trust in the government and media has spread everywhere. Conspiracy theories are off the chart and the amount of anti-vaxxers is see now, especially since COVID is insane. It definitely seems like it is becoming a sizeable percentage of the US population. I wouldn't be shocked if it was up around 1/4
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yeah I wouldn't be that surprised with 1/4 either

still, going against 3/4 is not something a populist will typically entertain unless there is a material advantage in doing so

the only reason he gave Kennedy the gig was in return for helping him win the election. I'm not sure what help Kennedy is to him now, beyond having the Kennedy name on your side which I doubt Trump gives a feck about
 
Tarrou said:
yeah I wouldn't be that surprised with 1/4 either

still, going against 3/4 is not something a populist will typically entertain unless there is a material advantage in doing so

the only reason he gave Kennedy the gig was in return for helping him win the election. I'm not sure what help Kennedy is to him now, beyond having the Kennedy name on your side which I doubt Trump gives a feck about
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I think it is telling that from the very moment RFK was announced as being on board with Trump he's virtually disappeared. I am absolutely certain he thinks he's made a huge mistake and has just laid low as much as possible.

He knew what Trump was like and what and who he is, but I have a feeling once he stepped in the Trump inner circle he instantly regretted it and he knows he can't come out against Trump now so he's just doing the absolute bare minimum to keep Trump happy.

Just my thoughts, and obviously I could be completely wrong.
 
langster said:
I think it is telling that from the very moment RFK was announced as being on board with Trump he's virtually disappeared. I am absolutely certain he thinks he's made a huge mistake and has just laid low as much as possible.

He knew what Trump was like and what and who he is, but I have a feeling once he stepped in the Trump inner circle he instantly regretted it and he knows he can't come out against Trump now so he's just doing the absolute bare minimum to keep Trump happy.

Just my thoughts, and obviously I could be completely wrong.
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I think his goal was to run as the maga pick for 2028 but I don't think it's realistic at all. He has some insane views but played a blinder to get in this position in fairness. I saw a clip of him going on about poppers causing AIDS the other day, and he says it with such confidence it's scary. Either he's a world class grifter or a lunatic, I suppose, but I'd lean towards latter.
 
Tarrou said:
I think his goal was to run as the maga pick for 2028 but I don't think it's realistic at all. He has some insane views but played a blinder to get in this position in fairness. I saw a clip of him going on about poppers causing AIDS the other day, and he says it with such confidence it's scary. Either he's a world class grifter or a lunatic, I suppose, but I'd lean towards latter.
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Yeah, he definitely had.2028 in mind, but I'm hoping MAGA will have caused so much damage by then they will be unelectable. The Dems really have to spend the next year picking who should run in 28 and get behind them fully.
 
langster said:
Yeah, he definitely had.2028 in mind, but I'm hoping MAGA will have caused so much damage by then they will be unelectable. The Dems really have to spend the next year picking who should run in 28 and get behind them fully.
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As I’ve said before, I don’t think there will be an election in 2028 - at least not a free and fair one.
 
Trump threatens to retake control of Panama Canal unless deal reached
WEST PALM BEACH, Florida, Dec 22 (Reuters) - President-elect Donald Trump threatened to reassert U.S. control over the Panama Canal, accusing Panama of charging excessive rates to use the Central American passage, which allows ships to cross between the Pacific and Atlantic oceans.

Speaking to a crowd of supporters in Arizona on Sunday, Trump also said he would not let the canal fall into the "wrong hands," warning of potential Chinese influence on the passage.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-says-he-might-demand-panama-hand-over-canal-2024-12-22/
 
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langster said:
Yeah, he definitely had.2028 in mind, but I'm hoping MAGA will have caused so much damage by then they will be unelectable. The Dems really have to spend the next year picking who should run in 28 and get behind them fully.
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That's the exact opposite of what Democrats need to do. Not having a real primary really hurt their chances of having the best candidate. The last thing the party needs is to do what you suggest and have the party elites just pick a candidate this year. There needs to be a a full primary after the midterms where a dozen people throw in their names and battle it out so they have the strongest candidate possible. Having the party pick this year would be learning nothing from their loss in 2024 and would just be doubling down on a losing and disenfranchising strategy that distances party elites even further from the actual grassroots.
 
I hate the US politics spiel of how "The presidential candidate is a puppet!!", happened to almost everybody bar Obama:

Bush: Dick Cheney was running the show
Hilary: She's the puppet for Goldman Sachs
Biden: He's Sullivan / [insert group of Dem inner circle people here] puppet!
Trump: Elon's puppet

Close advisors running part of the show has always been the case in US politics, it's just more obvious now given in this iteration the close advisor is the richest man in the world and an online shittalker.
 
AfonsoAlves said:
I hate the US politics spiel of how "The presidential candidate is a puppet!!", happened to almost everybody bar Obama:

Bush: Dick Cheney was running the show
Hilary: She's the puppet for Goldman Sachs
Biden: He's Sullivan / [insert group of Dem inner circle people here] puppet!
Trump: Elon's puppet

Close advisors running part of the show has always been the case in US politics, it's just more obvious now given in this iteration the close advisor is the richest man in the world and an online shittalker.
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Fair take, but Biden’s more like the first actual puppet—everyone else was just a politician with bad PR
 
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