The Trump Presidency - Part 2

You re saying Im not right but you clearly haven't even bothered to look up the numbers. And yes per capita surely is an interesting metric because if you bothered to look you'd see that several countries aid after that conversion isnt far removed or even more than what the US sends over there. And if you think economic investments aren't part of the problem in enabling a regime like Netanyahu's you are woefully naive.

Also: look up the articles about all the funding China, Russia and Iran to name some have provided to Hamas or the Palestinians. If the US would be able to hide said expenses and man hours like they can - would America get the same pass? Or say the US would be any of the other large trading partners - many having far greater investments of their total GDP than the US, would it get the same pass from you? Someone should tell Germany to get its submarines back.

I gave a stat - 70% of military sales to Israel are American. Since Oct 7, that ratio is even higher. This is about military sales. I gave a quote from an Israeli minister - US weapons are essential. You have given no evidence, nothing at all, and are talking about other investment? This is about their slaughter by their military!

And China and Russia have defense deals with Israel, not with Hamas :lol:
Hamas' only suppliers are Iran, and they are sanctioned to hell and back. And, with Gaza sealed in, Hamas literally has no suppliers. Simply not possible geographically. Check a map, check out what Rafah is, check out what's been happening there for 6 months.

You simply don't know what you're talking about, sorry. Learn to face facts about what your democratically elected govts are doing.

Once again, I can say this with 100% confidence - if the US, and US alone, stops donating and selling weapons, Israel's slaughter is over.
 
At what point am I excusing it? I'm just saying measure with the same cup and recognize that the problem is far more complex than "America bad".
In this case it isn't. You're the only country vetoing ceassfires in the UN and you know very well if you wanted to end arms and money support you could easily do it. Other countries follow america. The current genocide is very simple. Only one country in the world has the power to stop and it's in fact promoting it. It's on america.
 
The system is failing us. It’s a memo, not a law or a constitutional requirement.
It's a memo that is based on what they believe is constitutional, in tjhis case it's a tactical decision, because they have been dismissed without prejudice they can be brought again, if this hadn't been done then the cases could have been dismissed with prejudice when Trump had his priple making the decisions, in that scenario they could not have been made again, it's probably moot either way because he'll never likely see a court case in future but it's not totally dicounted
 
It's a memo that is based on what they believe is constitutional, in tjhis case it's a tactical decision, because they have been dismissed without prejudice they can be brought again, if this hadn't been done then the cases could have been dismissed with prejudice when Trump had his priple making the decisions, in that scenario they could not have been made again, it's probably moot either way because he'll never likely see a court case in future but it's not totally dicounted
The Supreme Court should have examined this memo. I’m not talking about the current court, but the one before. The current one is corrupted.
 
At what point am I excusing it? I'm just saying measure with the same cup and recognize that the problem is far more complex than "America bad".
In this case you (not you personally) absolutely are.

The US is one of the biggest assholes and one of the most evil countries in History, by a couple of light-years. It's been responsible for millions of deaths, genocide, land theft and countless bloody regime changes. It has no respect whatsoever for any kind of rules other than its own.

You (again not directed at you) are a deeply unjust, racist, shite country that eats its own citizens, defines its existence through perpetual wars and can't see past its own schizophrenic blinders.

What makes it even more repugnant is that it constantly tried to hide its crimes behind the pretense of "frEedOm and DEmOcracY". Now, it doesn't even bother.

Sorry if it comes across as a personal attack, that's not my intention. I've read enough of your posts to know where you stand.
 
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I think if anything this latest political cycle over the last 10 - 15 years around the world has exposed what many of us already knew. The only difference is now they don't even try to hide or excuse it. The worst part is many actually love it and want to go along with it.


We are fecked.
 
This is unbelievable. If there was nothing there, why did they spend all of this time on this case?

Or, is Smith afraid?

According to a Legal Eagle video i watched if the case is dismissed now and without prejudice it can be brought again in 2029 whereas if Smith waits until Trump is in office without dismissing the case before he's fired, then the Trump appointee will file to dismiss it with prejudice meaning Trump can never be charged for the crimes.

At least that's my understanding which is based on listening to the linked video while cooking yesterday.
 
surely he can't just decide that?

I'm sure they have trade agreements with Canada and stuff
 
I mean, are Drugs and Illegals really coming from Canada?

Is he going to propose a Northern Wall? Maybe even have a Night's Watch made up of murderers, rapists, drug dealers, Democrats and Liz Cheney?
 
surely he can't just decide that?

I'm sure they have trade agreements with Canada and stuff
Surely he can. Trump can do anything. If it wasn’t obvious before, it should be now.

I’m typically not the most pessimistic, but the country as we know it is gone… at least for a while.
 
Surely he can. Trump can do anything. If it wasn’t obvious before, it should be now.

I’m typically not the most pessimistic, but the country as we know it is gone… at least for a while.

sure I wasn't speculating whether or not he's capable of pushing it through

I meant it isn't his decision alone to make, especially when trade agreements are already signed
 
I mean, are Drugs and Illegals really coming from Canada?

Is he going to propose a Northern Wall? Maybe even have a Night's Watch made up of murderers, rapists, drug dealers, Democrats and Liz Cheney?
It's the fecking moose migration patterns. Too many Algonquin moose have taken up residency in the Adirondacks, driving up the price of boreal land.
 
Here we go again.

Who else is providing billions of dollars to Israel? Hint: it's a lot more than just the US. Is the US the biggest net contributor? Probably. But we only can assume that because unlike many other nations it's public information. And if you were to break it down per capita it would look worse for others in a way.
Meanwhile, who is providing weapons to the Palestinians in the billions of dollars worth?

I think we would get a lot further with resolving conflicts in the world if we were to recognize some of the destructive contributions others are making in these conflicts as well. And then we are only talking military contributions. Economically Germany, the UK, Netherlands, France, Spain and others per capita contribute a multi/many fold to Israel what the US does.

Dont think for a second these other nations aren't happily embracing the US villain role because meanwhile they benefit more than the US itself does.

Now if we re talking the US and the incoming administration's in particular- attempts to attack institutions like the ICC over this, that shows me some are willing to literally break world order and respect for human rights over this and that ultimately makes what we do notably worse.


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sure I wasn't speculating whether or not he's capable of pushing it through

I meant it isn't his decision alone to make, especially when trade agreements are already signed

Technically, he does have the authority which is derived from several legislative acts, like the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 and the International Emergency Economic Powers Act. They allow POTUS to adjust tariffs for national security reasons or during national emergencies.

There’s also precedent for this authority being exercised, as recently as 2018 when Trump imposed tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from various countries, including Canada and Mexico, citing national security concerns. These led to retaliatory measures from the affected countries and were a significant factor in the renegotiation of NAFTA, resulting in the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) in 2020
 
I mean, are Drugs and Illegals really coming from Canada?

Is he going to propose a Northern Wall? Maybe even have a Night's Watch made up of murderers, rapists, drug dealers, Democrats and Liz Cheney?
Not rapists or half his cabinet would be gone.
 
Stop posting shit from that dump of a website (Twitter). Find it somewhere else.


Trumps already well on his way to getting absolutely decimated at the mid terms. The US economy is about to tank.

Ah, look at you, stomping your feet and demanding people scour the web to meet your royal standards. Newsflash: no one’s here to cater to your whims. Don’t like the source? Scroll on—it’s the interwebs, not your personal butler
 
In this case you (not you personally) absolutely are.

The US is one of the biggest assholes and one of the most evil countries in History, by a couple of light-years. It's been responsible for millions of deaths, genocide, land theft and countless bloody regime changes. It has no respect whatsoever for any kind of rules other than its own.

You (again not directed at you) are a deeply unjust, racist, shite country that eats its own citizens, defines its existence through perpetual wars and can't see past its own schizophrenic blinders.

What makes it even more repugnant is that it constantly tried to hide its crimes behind the pretense of "frEedOm and DEmOcracY". Now, it doesn't even bother.

Sorry if it comes across as a personal attack, that's not my intention. I've read enough of your posts to know where you stand.
Fair enough, and I understand the sentiment. No offense taken. In some ways id love for us to get out of being involved in a lot of these conflicts at all- which one can argue agrees with orange man - but even if we don't overtly get involved you can guarantee we re involved in some other way. We re too afraid to cede influence to other powers whether justified or not. There are a lot more bad actors out there - though currently none with the economic power and military might by themselves - and we seem to so often "forget" to use it for good. You aren't wrong either that we need to get our internal shit together but for that other parts of the world need to step up too (hey another thing I agree with wacky Don on I guess...I'm worrying myself).
 
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This has a potential of a Which country is the most evil in history and by how much thread.
 
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Biden gets inflation down, they vote against dems because of it, and this fecking clown is going to destroy all the hard work. They are going to sell new inflation as "the hard reality the economy needs to fix itself". And the fecking press is going to report this verbatim.
 
Such a strong and stable genius. Can't believe how many people have been conned by this idiot.
It's also an ongoing experiment proving $300 billion doesn't stop you from being completely mentally compromised by basement dwelling incel's living off unemployment.
 

People have this idea that money should shield you from conspiracies and declining critical thinking. Musk's online behaviour, including the comment above, is heavily influenced by his increasing social media addiction. This addiction is being fueled by probably the worst, yet least powerful people online (basically 4chan trolls with no life). There doesn't seem to be any amount of money or access to true information through his wealth that seems to be able to impact him. He so far gone that he thinks Trump is influencing drug pricing with tariffs.
 
People have this idea that money should shield you from conspiracies and declining critical thinking. Musk's online behaviour, including the comment above, is heavily influenced by his increasing social media addiction. This addiction is being fueled by probably the worst, yet least powerful people online (basically 4chan trolls with no life). There doesn't seem to be any amount of money or access to true information through his wealth that seems to be able to impact him. He so far gone that he thinks Trump is influencing drug pricing with tariffs.
Oh, you think that he's being conned? Never heard that one before in fairness.
 
Oh, you think that he's being conned? Never heard that one before in fairness.

Not conned, allowed himself to be completed absorbed into it, despite having every advantage not to be. He's gone looking for these people and he's given himself to it fully. The money/wealth seemingly being no "shield" to stop it from happening and fully embracing the 4chan trolls.
 
Such a strong and stable genius. Can't believe how many people have been conned by this idiot.
I have no idea how that drug enters the US. It is global in its scale. But if the US does impose tariffs on the Chinese, because they believe they are facilitating fentanyl being imported into the US, surely it makes some sense that the price would rise if there is any Chinese connection to it? A bit like what happened when the Taliban took over and poppy cultivation was halted for a time. Not sure where that is now but the prices rose massively.

I don't see the Chinese connection. Not saying there isn't one but I just don't see how a synthetic opioid like fentanyl requires Chinese participation. It's not the 19th century where China and Afghanistan were the only two major producers of opium.

Skeptical because the US wants to impose tariffs on China, period, regardless of narcotics.
 
Not conned, allowed himself to be completed absorbed into it, despite having every advantage not to be. He's gone looking for these people and he's given himself to it fully. The money/wealth seemingly being no "shield" to stop it from happening and fully embracing the 4chan trolls.
He's pretty much the leader of that whole culture. He was probably one of the original edgelords that got involved in that side of the internet. He's not a victim of this, he's a pioneer.
 
I have no idea how that drug enters the US. It is global in its scale. But if the US does impose tariffs on the Chinese, because they believe they are facilitating fentanyl being imported into the US, surely it makes some sense that the price would rise if there is any Chinese connection to it? A bit like what happened when the Taliban took over and poppy cultivation was halted for a time. Not sure where that is now but the prices rose massively.

I don't see the Chinese connection. Not saying there isn't one but I just don't see how a synthetic opioid like fentanyl requires Chinese participation. It's not the 19th century where China and Afghanistan were the only two major producers of opium.

Skeptical because the US wants to impose tariffs on China, period, regardless of narcotics.
Yeah, it's not like they needed any Asian influence in the previous opioid crisis.