The Trump Presidency - Part 2

How exactly does one sanction the International Criminal Court?

I swear he's not only got Alzheimer's but he also thinks he's Oprah. You get a sanction, you get a sanction...

Was it a rhetorical question?

Because it's pretty easy actually - it basically means that the ICC can't do any digital or electronic payment transactions as it all goes through American infrastructure.
 
Was it a rhetorical question?

Because it's pretty easy actually - it basically means that the ICC can't do any digital or electronic payment transactions as it all goes through American infrastructure.
It was actually a point about how insane he's becoming with throwing sanctions around, which everyone else seems to have picked up on.
 
Hopefully they don't delete Sunita Williams name from the database. She has been stuck at the ISS for months now.
Hopefully nothing happens and she makes it home safe and sound. I was looking at her BIO again and if anything goes wrong she's the perfect example of someone to throw under the bus as DEI hire. Same thing the family of the Blackhawk helicopter crewmember who died and didn't want her name released to be used in smear campaigns while they mourn.
 
I thought he had health issues , it was widely reported during his last term, he’s now 4 years older , one can only hope I guess. Saying that Biden was hanging on like a walking corpse.
 
So NASA has had to remove all the stuff about women in leadership positions and the National Cryptological Museum has had to do the same.

Good thing women had no role in us getting to the moon or killing OBL.

Not that it matters. Kids won’t be able to read about it anyway now that federally funded Head Start programs are shutting down nationwide due to the funding freeze.
 
So NASA has had to remove all the stuff about women in leadership positions and the National Cryptological Museum has had to do the same.

Good thing women had no role in us getting to the moon or killing OBL.

Not that it matters. Kids won’t be able to read about it anyway now that federally funded Head Start programs are shutting down nationwide due to the funding freeze.
And yet all these so many powerful women supporting him and in his administration are going right along with it all. It really is mind boggling.
 
I thought he had health issues , it was widely reported during his last term, he’s now 4 years older , one can only hope I guess. Saying that Biden was hanging on like a walking corpse.
90yr old who would freeze mid sentence while talking are senators in the US. So don't hold your breath.
 
I don't disagree the EU needs to assert itself more again, but aside from what you said and perhaps more importantly: it doesn't have the defense industry/machine. And even if they were to start (re-)building that now, it would take years (decades?) to catch up. The only way it can have a chance to expedite that timeline IMHO is to find a way to reinsert England back into the fold. Not too surprising then to see the Brexit "reevaluation" talks that seem to be happening. Also not surprising then the likes of Trump are trying their darndest to undermine any such reconciliation talks.
No thanks.

The UK is a US vassal and its trojan horse in Europe. It always has played its own game, with its own rules. There's a reason why De Gaulle never wanted it in the EU in the first place.
 
If there were just a god...

Is the one signing the executive orders

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What is even the purpose of this? This is just being malicious for the sake of it
You have already answered your own question. Women will be shown their „natural“ place by this new administration.
 
You have already answered your own question. Women will be shown their „natural“ place by this new administration.
That quote always comes to mind “When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”. The whole extreme RW rule book world over is foundationally built on this. All these women, gay, trans, bi, Muslim, Mexican etc people are being favoured over us “pure” folk.

This is part of them turning the clock bad to the good old days.
 
You have already answered your own question. Women will be shown their „natural“ place by this new administration.

That quote always comes to mind “When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”. The whole extreme RW rule book world over is foundationally built on this. All these women, gay, trans, bi, Muslim, Mexican etc people are being favoured over us “pure” folk.

This is part of them turning the clock bad to the good old days.

I genuinely never thought I would see a day like this in my lifetime.

I don't want to sound dramatic or anything, but this honestly feels like I am living through a time that I would otherwise have only ever read about in a history textbook. It just doesn't feel real. It's kinda like how I felt during the covid pandemic and lockdown, like to this day that entire period still feels surreal, like something I would have just read about and not experienced, and what Trump and friends are doing right now feels the same way. It feels like we are living through a momentous part of history right now.
 
I genuinely never thought I would see a day like this in my lifetime.

I don't want to sound dramatic or anything, but this honestly feels like I am living through a time that I would otherwise have only ever read about in a history textbook. It just doesn't feel real. It's kinda like how I felt during the covid pandemic and lockdown, like to this day that entire period still feels surreal, like something I would have just read about and not experienced, and what Trump and friends are doing right now feels the same way. It feels like we are living through a momentous part of history right now.
I said the same thing to my wife the other day. That growing up as a 90s kid with progressive values I never saw this regression coming throughout society. Corrections may be needed in some things that went overboard, sure but this seismic shift? Never.

And I’m saying this partly from an Indian perspective (albeit with a close eye on the west) so it shows how global the change is.
 
This may be a dumb question, but why were Biden and Obama's hands always "tied" when trying to get things done, while Trump just does whatever the feck he wants through EO's?

Are democrats somehow above that?
Beacuse 99% of what Trump is doing will eventually be reversed by the courts, because it's illegal and against the constitution.

It's utterly crucial to remember that the office of the President isn't designed to make laws. That is literally the job of congress. Executive actions are not somehow magically legal, but that's what Trump is trying to tell people.

The Democrats generally pushed for policies that would become long lasting, upheld laws. For example, the work done to pass Obamacare through congress means it's almost impossible to reverse - despite Trump and his cronies trying for years.

All Trump is doing right now is pretending. He's pretending he can do whatever he wants, and that it's not violating the constitution. Almost everything he has said or done will eventually be reversed because he doesn't have the power he thinks he has. In his first term, his lawyers told him this. This time he's just doing it anyway, because it's fun, plays well on Fox News and his idiotic supporters think it shows how he's delivering on his promises.

The fact is that his promises could never be delivered on because they're deeply unpopular, and he barely holds any kind of mandate. A real leader would be working with both sides of Congress to create lasting laws.

Because the Maga movement is entirely about 'f*ck you I do what I want', he doesn't know how to do this. So will just flood the zone with sh*t EOs, almost all of which will be overturned, claim victory when he wrote them and not acknowlege when they're stopped.

The only outstanding question is if the Supreme Court will actually start going against the constitution, or if the serious members on there (and ther are really only two full clowns) will take their oaths to heart.

Sorry, the other question is when the MAGA movement will wake up to the fact that Trump and his cronies are literally now the GOVERNment. It's easy to bemoan and act like an outsider, but his job is no longer to disrupt, it is to adminster the federal government. Something he is utterly unqualified to do, and has no interest in doing.
 
That quote always comes to mind “When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”. The whole extreme RW rule book world over is foundationally built on this. All these women, gay, trans, bi, Muslim, Mexican etc people are being favoured over us “pure” folk.

This is part of them turning the clock bad to the good old days.
Great quote. Sums up the “anti-woke” mindset perfectly..
 
Beacuse 99% of what Trump is doing will eventually be reversed by the courts, because it's illegal and against the constitution.

It's utterly crucial to remember that the office of the President isn't designed to make laws. That is literally the job of congress. Executive actions are not somehow magically legal, but that's what Trump is trying to tell people.

The Democrats generally pushed for policies that would become long lasting, upheld laws. For example, the work done to pass Obamacare through congress means it's almost impossible to reverse - despite Trump and his cronies trying for years.

All Trump is doing right now is pretending. He's pretending he can do whatever he wants, and that it's not violating the constitution. Almost everything he has said or done will eventually be reversed because he doesn't have the power he thinks he has. In his first term, his lawyers told him this. This time he's just doing it anyway, because it's fun, plays well on Fox News and his idiotic supporters think it shows how he's delivering on his promises.

The fact is that his promises could never be delivered on because they're deeply unpopular, and he barely holds any kind of mandate. A real leader would be working with both sides of Congress to create lasting laws.

Because the Maga movement is entirely about 'f*ck you I do what I want', he doesn't know how to do this. So will just flood the zone with sh*t EOs, almost all of which will be overturned, claim victory when he wrote them and not acknowlege when they're stopped.

The only outstanding question is if the Supreme Court will actually start going against the constitution, or if the serious members on there (and ther are really only two full clowns) will take their oaths to heart.

Sorry, the other question is when the MAGA movement will wake up to the fact that Trump and his cronies are literally now the GOVERNment. It's easy to bemoan and act like an outsider, but his job is no longer to disrupt, it is to adminster the federal government. Something he is utterly unqualified to do, and has no interest in doing.
I see, ta for explaining.


It's a neat narrative trick. He does illegal shite, the courts overturn it and he screams that the enemey within is working against the honest man to impede their just plans.

Or something.
 
Elon and Trump accomplishing what the Soviet Union (and it's weak successor Russia) and China couldn't do in their most fevered of dreams. Absolutely picking the American state apart piece by piece and demolishing American soft power.
 
Beacuse 99% of what Trump is doing will eventually be reversed by the courts, because it's illegal and against the constitution.

It's utterly crucial to remember that the office of the President isn't designed to make laws. That is literally the job of congress. Executive actions are not somehow magically legal, but that's what Trump is trying to tell people.

The Democrats generally pushed for policies that would become long lasting, upheld laws. For example, the work done to pass Obamacare through congress means it's almost impossible to reverse - despite Trump and his cronies trying for years.

All Trump is doing right now is pretending. He's pretending he can do whatever he wants, and that it's not violating the constitution. Almost everything he has said or done will eventually be reversed because he doesn't have the power he thinks he has. In his first term, his lawyers told him this. This time he's just doing it anyway, because it's fun, plays well on Fox News and his idiotic supporters think it shows how he's delivering on his promises.

The fact is that his promises could never be delivered on because they're deeply unpopular, and he barely holds any kind of mandate. A real leader would be working with both sides of Congress to create lasting laws.

Because the Maga movement is entirely about 'f*ck you I do what I want', he doesn't know how to do this. So will just flood the zone with sh*t EOs, almost all of which will be overturned, claim victory when he wrote them and not acknowlege when they're stopped.

The only outstanding question is if the Supreme Court will actually start going against the constitution, or if the serious members on there (and ther are really only two full clowns) will take their oaths to heart.

Sorry, the other question is when the MAGA movement will wake up to the fact that Trump and his cronies are literally now the GOVERNment. It's easy to bemoan and act like an outsider, but his job is no longer to disrupt, it is to adminster the federal government. Something he is utterly unqualified to do, and has no interest in doing.
And this is the important point, he doesn’t have the authority to change the constitution. He might as well sign an executive order banning me from eating ice cream.
 
I see, ta for explaining.


It's a neat narrative trick. He does illegal shite, the courts overturn it and he screams that the enemey within is working against the honest man to impede their just plans.

Or something.
Not 'or something', that's exactly it
 
And this is the important point, he doesn’t have the authority to change the constitution. He might as well sign an executive order banning me from eating ice cream.
He doesn't have the authority to change the Constitution but he does have a Supreme Court that might bend it far enough to suit what he wants in quite a few areas
 
Beacuse 99% of what Trump is doing will eventually be reversed by the courts, because it's illegal and against the constitution.

It's utterly crucial to remember that the office of the President isn't designed to make laws. That is literally the job of congress. Executive actions are not somehow magically legal, but that's what Trump is trying to tell people.

The Democrats generally pushed for policies that would become long lasting, upheld laws. For example, the work done to pass Obamacare through congress means it's almost impossible to reverse - despite Trump and his cronies trying for years.

All Trump is doing right now is pretending. He's pretending he can do whatever he wants, and that it's not violating the constitution. Almost everything he has said or done will eventually be reversed because he doesn't have the power he thinks he has. In his first term, his lawyers told him this. This time he's just doing it anyway, because it's fun, plays well on Fox News and his idiotic supporters think it shows how he's delivering on his promises.

The fact is that his promises could never be delivered on because they're deeply unpopular, and he barely holds any kind of mandate. A real leader would be working with both sides of Congress to create lasting laws.

Because the Maga movement is entirely about 'f*ck you I do what I want', he doesn't know how to do this. So will just flood the zone with sh*t EOs, almost all of which will be overturned, claim victory when he wrote them and not acknowlege when they're stopped.

The only outstanding question is if the Supreme Court will actually start going against the constitution, or if the serious members on there (and ther are really only two full clowns) will take their oaths to heart.

Sorry, the other question is when the MAGA movement will wake up to the fact that Trump and his cronies are literally now the GOVERNment. It's easy to bemoan and act like an outsider, but his job is no longer to disrupt, it is to adminster the federal government. Something he is utterly unqualified to do, and has no interest in doing.

Do we have faith that the courts will indeed do their jobs and overturn Trump's ludicrous and illegal executive orders? Hasn't Trump appointed 240 federal judges, including three Supreme Court justices?
 
Do we have faith that the courts will indeed do their jobs and overturn Trump's ludicrous and illegal executive orders? Hasn't Trump appointed 240 federal judges, including three Supreme Court justices?
Of course we don't. I also don't expect the government to comply with the courts if they dare reverse some EO either.
 
Not 'or something', that's exactly it
Nothing quite as effective to make you realise how collectively stupid the human race is. Millions of people coaxed into voting against their own interests by such simple populism.

Oh well, at least I can revel in my superior intellect while the world turns into a bigoted shithole.
 
Do we have faith that the courts will indeed do their jobs and overturn Trump's ludicrous and illegal executive orders? Hasn't Trump appointed 240 federal judges, including three Supreme Court justices?
For clear examples of unconstitutional orders, yep, I think that SCOTUS would overturn them. While SCOTUS has a massive conservative bias, only two of the judges are complete partisan clowns (Thomas and Alito).

Main issue is that arguing EOs to be unconstitutional is hard and then, the president/government can just ignore the court ruling (see the Worcester vs Georgia ruling, and president Jackson's famous quote "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it.", where John Marshall was the chief justice). On other words, the SCOTUS does not have mechanisms to enforce ruling, the entire system is meant to be that three parts of the government collaborate with each other.
 
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For clear examples of unconstitutional orders, yep, I think that SCOTUS would overturn them. While SCOTUS has a massive conservative bias, only two of the judges are complete partisan clowns (Thomas and Alito).

Main issue is that arguing EOs to be unconstitutional, and then, the president/government can just ignore the court ruling (see the Worcester vs Georgia ruling, and president Jackson's famous quote "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it.", where John Marshall was the chief justice). On other words, the SCOTUS does not have mechanisms to enforce ruling, the entire system is meant to be that three parts of the government collaborate with each other.

I suppose once it becomes clear that the President will simply tell the SCOTUS to go feck themselves anytime they rule against him, the justices will be inclined to fall in line with Trump or risk becoming marginalised and irrelevant.
 
For clear examples of unconstitutional orders, yep, I think that SCOTUS would overturn them. While SCOTUS has a massive conservative bias, only two of the judges are complete partisan clowns (Thomas and Alito).

Main issue is that arguing EOs to be unconstitutional is hard and then, the president/government can just ignore the court ruling (see the Worcester vs Georgia ruling, and president Jackson's famous quote "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it.", where John Marshall was the chief justice). On other words, the SCOTUS does not have mechanisms to enforce ruling, the entire system is meant to be that three parts of the government collaborate with each other.
How many are actually clear examples, the only one I can think of off the top of my head is the birthright citizenship one

Most of these EO's are based on legal theories that have never been tested in court
 
Nothing quite as effective to make you realise how collectively stupid the human race is. Millions of people coaxed into voting against their own interests by such simple populism.

Oh well, at least I can revel in my superior intellect while the world turns into a bigoted shithole.

There are many people who feel that way. Honest intentions, trying to improve life for all but so many are swayed by populism and conspiracy theorists into siding with those who stand for policies that are against their own interests against people who are well meaning. It is so frustrating that I sometimes wonder why the "liberals" or "lefts" don't use the same tools to manipulate the masses into deciding in their interests in a "the end justifies the means" way. Then I wonder if that could be the reason why so many powerful/rich people who once campaigned for climate protection and progressive policies now stand by Trump. Maybe they've just given up on accomplishing their goals by convincing people who don't want to be convinced and now try to see their agendas through in different ways like Musk who used to be all about climate protection. Then the cynic in me takes over again.