The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated

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Cheesy said:
He was big within that circle but I don't think he was really a figure of national attention until he sided with Trump. Even then he wanted to be a silent manipulator in the backgrounds - within the initial weeks of Trump's regime people were touting him as the 'real' President. That's far a status far more significant than beforehand.
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Yeah, thats true.
 
Raulduke said:
There was talk of a "suicide pact" between Tillerson, Mnuchin and Mattis too whereby if one we're sacked they'd all go together. Remains to be seen.
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Mnuchin is a total sycophant who seems to (along with his wife) enjoy the swag and bling of being a top government official, so I doubt he would ever participate in that. Mattis on the other hand may, but there's a higher calling of actually staying in his job to avoid Trump breaking things at DoD.
 
No mention of Trumpy in Rex's speech. Dong will be livid.
 
Raoul said:
Mnuchin is a total sycophant who seems to (along with his wife) enjoy the swag and bling of being a top government official, so I doubt he would ever participate in that. Mattis on the other hand may, but there's a higher calling of actually staying in his job to avoid Trump breaking things at DoD.
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Mattis is the other person who has a say in the nuclear button being pushed, isn't he? Would probably rather he stayed for that reason.
 
Raoul said:
Mnuchin is a total sycophant who seems to (along with his wife) enjoy the swag and bling of being a top government official, so I doubt he would ever participate in that. Mattis on the other hand may, but there's a higher calling of actually staying in his job to avoid Trump breaking things at DoD.
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I also don't see Mnuchin fitting in with Mattis.

Given how much Mattis has avoided being seen saying anything at all (and he's not Sec State, so he can afford not to), hence preserving his relationship to Trump, I get the sense he's doing it to mitigate the chances of anything really bad happening out of irrationality.
 


Could today be the worst day in his Presidency so far? Feck so much has happened too.

He's also Tweeting like a mutha today. NOW on about the wall and another about Call being dangerous to the rest of the USA. He really doesn't give a shit anymore, he's now clearly only after keeping his base happy. Mind you, he's been like that since the campaign to be fair.
 
Cheesy said:
Mattis is the other person who has a say in the nuclear button being pushed, isn't he? Would probably rather he stayed for that reason.
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He has no legal standing per se. If the President gives the order and gets any other cabinet member to approve, its relayed to directly to the military and they must carry it out. But in a practical sense, he not only sits as SecDef so would hardly be out of communication at a critical time, and he also probably has personal relationships with all the generals involved (certainly Dunford). If the military would ever stand up to this president, I imagine he would be the ringleader.
 
MTF said:
He has no legal standing per se. If the President gives the order and gets any other cabinet member to approve, its relayed to directly to the military and they must carry it out. But in a practical sense, he not only sits as SecDef so would hardly be out of communication at a critical time, and he also probably has personal relationships with all the generals involved (certainly Dunford). If the military would ever stand up to this president, I imagine he would be the ringleader.
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Aye, someone who seems to be respected by all sides here so he's fairly reputable in that regard.
 
Devos and Tillerson both approved at the confirmation hearing .What is the point of this and the Intel Committee
 
Cheesy said:
and will go to whatever lengths they please if no one is willing to stop them.
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This a million times. They seem to be able to do whatever the feck they want to.... So what incentives do they have to rein it in?

The Firestarter said:
Yet, the main body that decides that, just cleared him of any wrong doings. Collective irresponsibility.
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Exactly...

Hate to say it but I see much more craziness on the horizon.
 
So basically he has said he is about to break the Iran deal and has appointed somebody he knows will go along with this

And he has put haspel in charge of the cia...
For those not aware of her background (from wiki)

Haspel ran a "black site" CIA prison located in Thailand in 2002.[11][18] The site was codenamed "Cat's Eye" and held suspected al Qaeda terrorist members Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri and Abu Zubaydah for a time. The Senate Intelligence Committee report on CIA torture specifies that during their detention at the site they were waterboarded and interrogated using no-longer-authorized methods.[7][8] Declassified CIA cables specify that Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in a month, was sleep deprived, kept in a "large box", had his head slammed against a wall, and he lost his left eye. Zubaydah was deemed, by the CIA interrogators, to not be in possession of any useful intelligence (Interrogation of Abu Zubaydah).[19]

On December 17, 2014, the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights (ECCHR) pressed criminal charges against unidentified CIA operatives, after the US Senate Select Committee published its report on torture by US intelligence agencies.

On June 7, 2017, the ECCHR called on the Public Prosecutor General of Germany to issue an arrest warrant against Haspel over claims she oversaw the torture of terrorism suspects. The complaint against her is centered on the case of Saudi national Abu Zubaydah.[20][21][22]
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bleedred said:
ICE spokesman in SF resigns and slams Trump administration officials

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/poli...e-spokesman-resigns-san-francisco1140PMVODtop

"I just couldn't bear the burden -- continuing on as a representative of the agency and charged with upholding integrity, knowing that information was false," he told CNN on Monday.
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Schwab cited Acting Director Tom Homan and Attorney General Jeff Sessions as being the purveyors of misleading and inaccurate information, following Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf's controversial decision to warn the community of an upcoming ICE raid.
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Well done to her and it looks like she has been vindicated
 
sun_tzu said:
So basically he has said he is about to break the Iran deal and has appointed somebody he knows will go along with this

And he has put haspel in charge of the cia...
For those not aware of her background (from wiki)
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Pompeo is also against diplomacy in North Korea. THe WH already began walking back the announcement regarding talks, will be interesting to see if they abandon it completely now.
 
Trump is gearing up to go head to head with Iran. Kushner is galvanising the Saudi’s for it, I think he hopes a war will save him from the Mueller investigation, just got to hope and fecking pray he’s stopped before then and peace is maintained.
 
langster said:


Could today be the worst day in his Presidency so far? Feck so much has happened too.

He's also Tweeting like a mutha today. NOW on about the wall and another about Call being dangerous to the rest of the USA. He really doesn't give a shit anymore, he's now clearly only after keeping his base happy. Mind you, he's been like that since the campaign to be fair.
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Started checking out her Pornos. Comments sections are riddled with Trump voters :lol:
 
berbatrick said:
Ha, my OCD saves me again. I carry my passport + other shit in my backpack every day.
Btw, even scarier than the arrest itself is this: http://www.newsweek.com/supreme-court-immigrations-detained-indefinitely-822613
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I can't be trusted to carry around passport and I797 form with me everywhere I go. I've taken a ecopy in my phone and I also put it in dropbox so that I can take printout anytime I need. I listened to the NPR episode where they discussed that ruling in detail. End is near for us lolzy
 
Some context regarding the timing.

Maybe that’s why Trump decided to act now, although it wouldn’t explain why he waited five days and then made the announcement on Twitter. It’s also possible that another factor played into his timing. Early Tuesday morning, the Washington Post reported that Roger Stone, the Republican dirty trickster and longtime Trump adviser, told an associate in the spring of 2016 that “he had learned from WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange that his organization had obtained emails that would torment senior Democrats such as John Podesta, then campaign chairman for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.” This conversation took place “before it was publicly known that hackers had obtained the emails of Podesta and of the Democratic National Committee,” the story also noted.

As Reince Priebus, the former White House chief of staff, told Fox News’s Laura Ingraham, Trump pays a great deal of attention to how the daily news narrative evolves. After the Post’s scoop appeared, other news organizations leapt on it, and Stone’s name trended on Twitter. In all likelihood, the Post’sstory, with its implication of possible collusion, would have dominated the day in cable news. But once the news of Tillerson’s firing broke, it slipped down the home pages, and Stone dropped off the trending list.
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https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-...gets-fired-the-day-after-he-criticized-russia
 
To lose a seat in a PA disctrict Trump won by +20%, AFTER the signature tax cuts and the steel tarriff announcement...yikes. says a lot about Dems being fired up and Republicans being not fired up at all.
 
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