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in hindsight, wilf should have recruited Hannah. Think she would have handled it a lot better than keiran.
Either way, there has to be at least two traitors at the final table for them to have a chance otherwise they’d just banish until they get the one. So, if the traitors aren’t allowed to collude to split, they have to turn on each other. Are the traitors allowed to split with anyone who doesn’t make it? I would have been sharing with Keiran for sure unless they’ve signed some contract to say they have to be competitive. If that isn’t the case then Wilf was greedy and stupid [\spoiler]
 
So I'm on episode 4. That John guy is a fecking prick

Getting pissy with Aron who had a panic attack for walking out the room after a gang up but then next morning he walks out. fecking twat
 
So I'm on episode 4. That John guy is a fecking prick

Getting pissy with Aron who had a panic attack for walking out the room after a gang up but then next morning he walks out. fecking twat
Hilarious that this is the take everyone has of John.

Think he's come out since after the show and apologized/said he regrets his actions in fairness to him.
 
Would anyone on here be tempted to apply if there was a second series?
Definitely not. I always wonder about contestants. You have family, workmates, mates watching you very publicly making a fool of yourself, particularly since they know things you don't in the moment ... nah.

Hannah and particularly Meryl must have mates thinking "you're quite dense aren't you?" :lol:

This is better though than folks who end up on naked attraction. How do they back to work acting like nothing's happened?
 
Definitely not. I always wonder about contestants. You have family, workmates, mates watching you very publicly making a fool of yourself, particularly since they know things you don't in the moment ... nah.

Hannah and particularly Meryl must have mates thinking "you're quite dense aren't you?" :lol:

This is better though than folks who end up on naked attraction. How do they back to work acting like nothing's happened?
You worry a lot about what people think of you don't you? Genuine question.
 
Hilarious that this is the take everyone has of John.

Think he's come out since after the show and apologized/said he regrets his actions in fairness to him.

Yeah but even at the time I didn't get it. You could see he was being piled on and naturally you'd be upset. That annoyed me but whatever, it's I guess fair he thought he was acting (though at that point it makes no difference as if he was voted out it makes no different, and it looked he was)

My main anger at him was him working himself up and then storming out the room as he couldn't take it. That fecking clown
 
You worry a lot about what people think of you don't you? Genuine question.
Worry is the wrong word - in normal circumstances I don't concern myself with what others think, however, in a gameshow that would put me in vulnerable situations to entertainment the British public, I'm not keen at all. Are you? Genuine question.
 
Worry is the wrong word - in normal circumstances I don't concern myself with what others think, however, in a gameshow that would put me in vulnerable situations to entertainment the British public, I'm not keen at all. Are you? Genuine question.
Yes. I'm confident enough in my abilities.

For example it's not like Hannah and Meryl who you mentioned have had personality transplants to go on the show. I doubt the people that know them will suddenly think they're dense. The ones that do already probably did. The ones that don't probably recognise the unique situation they find themselves in.
 
Yes. I'm confident enough in my abilities.

For example it's not like Hannah and Meryl who you mentioned have had personality transplants to go on the show. I doubt the people that know them will suddenly think they're dense. The ones that do already probably did. The ones that don't probably recognise the unique situation they find themselves in.

Being a faithful seems like a tough challenge to make it to the final. If you come across too switched on, you'll be a threat and most likely be murdered.
 
Being a faithful seems like a tough challenge to make it to the final. If you come across too switched on, you'll be a threat and most likely be murdered.
Yep, you have to find the right balance if you want to make it to the final, and even then, It's no coincidence that all the finalist bar Keiran all had complete confidence Wilf was a faithful.
 
Yes. I'm confident enough in my abilities.

For example it's not like Hannah and Meryl who you mentioned have had personality transplants to go on the show. I doubt the people that know them will suddenly think they're dense. The ones that do already probably did. The ones that don't probably recognise the unique situation they find themselves in.
Good for you. Definitely not my cup of tea. I actually rarely ever watch reality shows, but this one had me hooked.

Would happily go on a gameshow akin to Pointless, win or lose, rather than one where your sanity will almost certainly unravel with stress and start acting out irrationally to the entertainment of the nation. There's a reason why there's discretion enforced with therapists, doctors, even line managers, etc.

To your point about Hannah and Meryl, with mates, I suppose that's fair, however, life doesn't end.
If Meryl found herself in a job search, and someone who watched the show interviewed her for anything that required critical thought and discretion, I reckon it would be difficult not to be influenced by what they'd seen.

Same thing with Will for different reasons, it's obvious he's playing a game to win and all is fair, but the prize has real life changing consequences, so it's not really just a game in that sense.
To turn on your partners as he did, and watching him successfully convince himself that he only did it because he didn't trust them is an eye opening insight to his psyche, which would be hard for future acquaintances to ignore.
 
Binged all episodes in 2 days. I feel for season 2 they almost shouldn't tell the viewers either who the traitors are, just have those clips on the side so people don't think it's a fix. I am convinced all these people bashing traitors for being a snakes would have supported them to the end. It's easier watching knowing who it is and then liking/disliking people

I wanted Wilf to win. I tend to want good game players to win - I felt the same on shows like Survivor, BB:US (great version) etc.. It's a game for money at the end of the day and he did fecking well

Him throwing Amanda under the bus especially was harsh but equally good gameplay because there was no obvious other target and keeps eyes off him a bit

I personally feel Maddi was the biggest prick of them all. She was borederline bullying Aaron and Wild - her reasoning was absolute bonkers and she refused to ever switch. She kept saying every 5 seconds to anyone who would listen

Of the winners only Aaron I liked, the other 2 are forgettable to say the least

Kieran throwing his toys out the pram... I get it as I wouldn't have gone gracefully either but I think going forward in the final 5 they should only vote and that's it or something. It's still in the rules but that ruined the game for me. Maybe biased as I wanted Wilf to win but still
 
Surprised Kieran is getting so much stick. What else was he expected to do? Wilf threw that man under the bus behind his back. The whole being all buddy buddy with him and then being a snake behind his back was quite nauseating to see. I know it’s called “Traitors” but you can’t expect to Kieran just to bow down and think “Ah Wilf got me good here. He royally bent me over there. I’ll just vote Aaron”. It was up to the faithfuls to believe in that “parting gift” message or not. Clearly they didn’t trust Wilf enough to listen that kind of line.

Meryl and Hannah were annoyingly naive. Only one I’m glad to win was Aaron.


So I'm on episode 4. That John guy is a fecking prick

Getting pissy with Aron who had a panic attack for walking out the room after a gang up but then next morning he walks out. fecking twat

100%. Shocking behaviour.
 
After what happened to the last caf member who went on TV?
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This show reminded me why I loved survivor so much . That show is like traitors on drugs. This was pretty incredible though. Can’t believe that some of the not so smart people won though
 
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thought kieran played it awfully tbh.

he was gifted a golden chance, he knew exactly who the only traitor was and still managed to lose.

Why he didn’t try harder to get the others on side is a bit strange to me. Wilfred knew how to play the naive ones in Hannah and Myrel, but Kieran should have tried to get Aaron and especially Myrel on his side. If they ganged up on Wilf early he could have won at a canter
 
thought kieran played it awfully tbh.

he was gifted a golden chance, he knew exactly who the only traitor was and still managed to lose.

Why he didn’t try harder to get the others on side is a bit strange to me. Wilfred knew how to play the naive ones in Hannah and Myrel, but Kieran should have tried to get Aaron and especially Myrel on his side. If they ganged up on Wilf early he could have won at a canter
Meryl was never voting Wilf out, she voted to end the game even after Kieran pretty much told them about him. Meryl, Hannah and Aaron weren't siding with Kieran over Wilf at any point, no matter what he did.
 
Meryl was never voting Wilf out, she voted to end the game even after Kieran pretty much told them about him. Meryl, Hannah and Aaron weren't siding with Kieran over Wilf at any point, no matter what he did.
I think that's the issue though. He had ages to try to plant seeds and convince them, but what did he do? he just went along with Wilfs plan and basically sat possom until it was too late.

Played it awfully.
 
I think that's the issue though. He had ages to try to plant seeds and convince them, but what did he do? he just went along with Wilfs plan and basically sat possom until it was too late.

Played it awfully.
Maddie was voted off after a day where all the talk had been about the last traitor being a man because she brought Wilf up. Hannah and Meryl were his biggest supporters, there was nothing Kieran could have done there. His whole recruitment was a set up by Wilf.
 
Just binged it in the last few days. Absolutely fantastic show!

Ultimately though I think 95% of the time they were all voting based on their emotions and who annoyed them rather than any sort of sound reasoning, which made the game pretty easy for the traitors throughout. in fact the only time traitors were actually caught was when another traitor (Wilf) threw them under the bus :lol:

I thought Amanda easily played the best game out of anyone in there, the perfect traitor, but she totally fecked up by voting Theo and ruined it for herself. I think she would've coasted to victory otherwise.

Will, yeah I dunno, the edits always made him look so guilty, but then he had dopes like Meryl and Hannah in there who were willing to back him til the very end so he obviously played it well the rest of the time. Fair play to him though, he played the role of a traitor well, but he totally ballsed it up by recruiting Kieran, who again, did things more based on emotion than sound reasoning and ruined it for him at the end. I think Will probably deserved the win, ultimately he had the remaining 3 completely conned by the end and it took Kieran almost breaking the game for him to be beaten. I liked Aaron though so not sad to see him get the money. Meryl on the other hand was hopeless and was basically there at the end cause she was never a threat to anyone.

I also think it's harsh that people are calling Will a snake and a dickhead for the way he played it, seeing as that's pretty much exactly how you're supposed to play the game as a traitor. He just fecked over one traitor too many at the end and it got him.

I'd like to think if there's another series (there surely will be) that the contestants of that realise that it's a game where you can't base everything off of emotions, which most of the ones in this series did. But I assume it's hard when you spend 12 straight days with all these people.

EDIT: Oh and agree with others that Thom was easily the biggest cnut in there. John in second place. The way he manipulated others was horrible, what a shit magician. And all that because he was stupid enough to out himself and Alex. Still, I guess he won't care, he gets to go home and bang Alex.
 
Just how dumb were Meryl & Hannah though. Seem like the kind of people who get done by a text scam
 
Jesus that Maddie one could drive you to violence.

Her entire premise for suspecting Wilf, was that he had voted for Aaron when everyone else voted Imran, which she decided proved he was betraying his fellow traitor.

Then she pulled a 360 on Aaron but was still banging on about her evidence against Wilf. If you don’t think Aaron is a traitor anymore, then your entire line of reasoning for suspecting Wilf falls apart as well you silly bint.

It was the fact she was so bloody smug about her braindead theories as well.

Great show. Ending was a little unsatisfying as it felt like there was a victory there to be taken by a traitor strong enough to finish it properly, but there was some amazing tv along the way.

Amanda going out and the reaction when she told them she was a traitor was incredible.
 
Jesus that Maddie one could drive you to violence.

Her entire premise for suspecting Wilf, was that he had voted for Aaron when everyone else voted Imran, which she decided proved he was betraying his fellow traitor.

Then she pulled a 360 on Aaron but was still banging on about her evidence against Wilf. If you don’t think Aaron is a traitor anymore, then your entire line of reasoning for suspecting Wilf falls apart as well you silly bint.

It was the fact she was so bloody smug about her braindead theories as well.

Great show. Ending was a little unsatisfying as it felt like there was a victory there to be taken by a traitor strong enough to finish it properly, but there was some amazing tv along the way.

Amanda going out and the reaction when she told them she was a traitor was incredible.

She did like throwing shit in the hope it would stick
 
Apologies if already posted but any word if a series 2 for this show is going to happen?
 
I really enjoyed watching this, it was nice to have reality TV with normal people, not influencer wannabes (I know some clearly were but not as bad as love island)

Apparently they're doing a celebrity version, I'd rather they just stuck to normal people that was half the intrigue of this show - I don't want to see z list "celebrities"

I'd want to be a traitor I think, because you have more power over the money.

Amanda was fantastic, I wanted her to win, the slip up over Theo cost her. Also why did they think Maddie turning down the 3k confirmed she was a faithful? I'd have been more suspicious of her as it would suggest she was refusing a tiny sum of money in comparison to what she was in line for
 
Jesus that Maddie one could drive you to violence.

Her entire premise for suspecting Wilf, was that he had voted for Aaron when everyone else voted Imran, which she decided proved he was betraying his fellow traitor.

Then she pulled a 360 on Aaron but was still banging on about her evidence against Wilf. If you don’t think Aaron is a traitor anymore, then your entire line of reasoning for suspecting Wilf falls apart as well you silly bint.

It was the fact she was so bloody smug about her braindead theories as well.

Great show. Ending was a little unsatisfying as it felt like there was a victory there to be taken by a traitor strong enough to finish it properly, but there was some amazing tv along the way.

Amanda going out and the reaction when she told them she was a traitor was incredible.

She seemed to drop the suspicion of Aaron but just had a bad 'feeling' about Wilf. She just couldn't articulate what the reasoning was. It's hard from a viewers perspective to truly understand this given that 50% of the show is based around a pointless task that frankly offers nothing to the shows format. We didn't have enough time to view the casual conversations or see enough of the round table (the most important part of the show ffs) to understand their reasoning.

The edit of the final was horrendous. Took so fecking long on that task and really not long enough on the most crucial part of the entire bloody show. On top of that, I do think it was a borderline game breaking what he did to Wilf, but I would put that down to a very poor decision on Wilfs behalf to pick him as his recruit. Fun show overall, but please stop with the music and tone down the task time.
 
Just started this after seeing the hype. Playing lots of Werewolf definitely helped me predict a lot of the early strategies.

The show logo looks like something a League One football club rebranded their badge to before swiftly going back to the old one.
 
I read that Winkleman wants them to go again with the same cast but different traitors.

That’ll be absolutely gash if true.

Surely better with new contestants that we don’t know anything about nor do they know about each other.
 
Jesus that Maddie one could drive you to violence.

Her entire premise for suspecting Wilf, was that he had voted for Aaron when everyone else voted Imran, which she decided proved he was betraying his fellow traitor.

Then she pulled a 360 on Aaron but was still banging on about her evidence against Wilf. If you don’t think Aaron is a traitor anymore, then your entire line of reasoning for suspecting Wilf falls apart as well you silly bint.

It was the fact she was so bloody smug about her braindead theories as well.

Great show. Ending was a little unsatisfying as it felt like there was a victory there to be taken by a traitor strong enough to finish it properly, but there was some amazing tv along the way.

Amanda going out and the reaction when she told them she was a traitor was incredible.

In fairness she did actually have some sort of theory, even if it was wrong and made little sense. She just lacked the skills to get the group to really go for it, the one time a few of them listened the traitors panicked.
A lot of voting was just against people who weren't their close friends.
 
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She seemed to drop the suspicion of Aaron but just had a bad 'feeling' about Wilf. She just couldn't articulate what the reasoning was. It's hard from a viewers perspective to truly understand this given that 50% of the show is based around a pointless task that frankly offers nothing to the shows format. We didn't have enough time to view the casual conversations or see enough of the round table (the most important part of the show ffs) to understand their reasoning.

The edit of the final was horrendous. Took so fecking long on that task and really not long enough on the most crucial part of the entire bloody show. On top of that, I do think it was a borderline game breaking what he did to Wilf, but I would put that down to a very poor decision on Wilfs behalf to pick him as his recruit. Fun show overall, but please stop with the music and tone down the task time.
They either need make the tasks more useful or show them less.
Sometimes you would see about 1/4 of the group speak at that round table, you'd hope that was just the editing. :lol:
 
Most of the tasks were terrible. The worst was the one where they’re in the cars going right or left based on true or false questions. feck sake :lol:
 
Most of the tasks were terrible. The worst was the one where they’re in the cars going right or left based on true or false questions. feck sake :lol:

Yeah I tended to drift off when the tasks were on. I get it adds to the thing with regards to bonding and it gets them to work for their money. Otherwise it would have just been an hour of watching people sitting around talking.
 
Yeah I tended to drift off when the tasks were on. I get it adds to the thing with regards to bonding and it gets them to work for their money. Otherwise it would have just been an hour of watching people sitting around talking.
Claudia said on her Radio 2 show it is also about the players' mental health. If they were just cooped up all day talking to each other with the exception of going to bed, they'd go bananas.

 
Claudia said on her Radio 2 show it is also about the players' mental health. If they were just cooped up all day talking to each other with the exception of going to bed, they'd go bananas.



Yeah that makes sense. It also would just be like Big Brother otherwise
 
Isn’t most of the voting not based on who they think is a traitor (which is pretty much impossible to know anyway) but on getting together with a few others and agreeing that you’ll all vote for Person X, meaning that you’ll all likely survive another day, or - failing that - just jumping on the bandwagon of who other people seem to be about to vote for?