AdamColeBebe
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Well yeah it's a gameshow for money where you win and others don't isn't it?They're all greedy.
Well yeah it's a gameshow for money where you win and others don't isn't it?They're all greedy.
Not entirely that simple though is it?Well yeah it's a gameshow for money where you win and others don't isn't it?
Honestly if I was Charlotte, I reckon I would've just given up after the seer check. You're never going to get out of that situation still living, so it would've saved so much emotional energy and drama to just admit it and let the other 4 know they can split it between them.Yeah, there was zero guilt that they'd just prevented their 'friends' from getting 25 grand each. No reaction at all when there names were called as Faithful or Charlotte as a Traitor.
I'd like to think that if I was put in that position I'd be gutted as well as happy. Dunno, maybe my unrealistic expectations on how people should behave.
I don't think Charlotte was a good traitor? It's all just about biases rather than being a good faithful or traitor. You could see on her face all the time that she wasn't very good at lying like Linda. Using crying as a manipulation tactic is really shitty too.
Feel sorry for Francesca really. The Seer is a shit position to be in because the smart thing for remaining people to do is just vote both people in that situation out as you don't know.
Jake was a deserving winner out of those that were left I felt. Was clever in getting out traitors early doors and also in the missions.
Yep! Didn’t let him speak. They all treated him badly.“Of course”
She’s horrible. Total bully to him at the round table too
Weirdly seemed like they were good mates outside of that but yeah she was a complete twat to him at every vote. He was only ever polite. The way all they leapt on him at the table for misremembering was wild.Yep! Didn’t let him speak. They all treated him badly.
Yeah she wasn't that good. She started from a position of being the most-trusted faithful in the game and no one suspected a recruit had happened at that point. She done somewhat well to nudge Minah out without getting too caught up in it, but framing Freddie was a big mistake.
I know! I think he mixed up 2 different conversations. It’s annoying as he was so obviously a faithful.Weirdly seemed like they were good mates outside of that but yeah she was a complete twat to him at every vote. He was only ever polite. The way all they leapt on him at the table for misremembering was wild.
Yeah she wasn't that good. She started from a position of being the most-trusted faithful in the game and no one suspected a recruit had happened at that point. She done somewhat well to nudge Minah out without getting too caught up in it, but framing Freddie was a big mistake.
I think Freddie voting for her would put enough doubt that she would have gone before the final two.In fairness, there's a good chance she wins had Frankie not got the Seer and picked her. Not sure what else she could have done and she did a pretty good job at even making it a contest at the final roundtable (although that may have been down to the edit - the voting seemed very definite).
Yep. She didn't really do anything good as a traitor. Framing Freddie was a short term win but fecked her in the final even if the Seer didn't exist because they'd have questioned why Freddie voted for her.
Ah yeah, having to recruit so late is actually a bit of a shit one. I think the best play is to recruit the person you get on best with and agree to try go to the end with them. Recruiting and immediately framing them was always going to come back to you.In fairness, there's a good chance she wins had Frankie not got the Seer and picked her. Not sure what else she could have done and she did a pretty good job at even making it a contest at the final roundtable (although that may have been down to the edit - the voting seemed very definite).
I don’t think any of them knew ‘damn well’ that there wasn’t another traitor.Not entirely that simple though is it?
Voting out when you know damn well there isn't another traitor stinks of greed rather than it just being a gameshow.
It's like when someone takes a step back on the chase but the penalty is too high. Gameshow or not there's right and there's wrong.
To be fair, they’re both switched on enough to know that the others will, and looking to close it makes you look guilty.I don't get why Charlotte was so quick to throw firstly Minah and then Freddie under the bus.
I don’t think any of them knew ‘damn well’ that there wasn’t another traitor.
Also, both Frankie and Alexander both voted to keep the game going and have another vote.
I don't get why Charlotte was so quick to throw firstly Minah and then Freddie under the bus.
Can't believe TV would do thisMaybe Leanne had a bad edit like Joe, she’s coming across really well on Uncloaked and Alexander and her seem to be good pals? Guess it’s all about the heat of the game.
That is true!To be fair, they’re both switched on enough to know that the others will, and looking to close it makes you look guilty.
They didn't even care they banished faithfuls and just acted out of pure greed. Terrible
Yeah, agree with all that you've said. I don't think Leanne and Jake thought there were other traitors, they wanted the money.Shit show of a final episode. All the faithful just banishing each other for money. Frankie was the worst surprisingly, desperately playing the mother card to Leanne and instantly voting Alexander even though he gave her coins in the challenge. She knew 100% both Alex and Jake were faithful but just wanted the money.
Yeah but this is this year and it was boring til this stuff and would have been boring at the end without it.They didn't do half the stuff last year and it was a great watch. The finale was epic tv.
Yeah but that’s what happened and it got more interesting with what they did.It's been a boring season because the cast were mostly a bunch of toxic dullards, not because of the way the game played out.
The interference with the forced recruitment and seer just robs this season of an organic ending.
I think they were just caught up in it and fearing the worst. If there’s even the slightest bit of doubt it made sense for them to get rid and play the odds.Why on earth were they all so convinced there was another traitor? Did they not think any of the events though?
Frankie giving the faithful the win and being rewarded like that...
Why on earth were they all so convinced there was another traitor? Did they not think any of the events though?
Frankie giving the faithful the win and being rewarded like that...
I have no idea why people think she was a good traitor. I can only think because she acted ruthlessly.It would have been a much better finale than that slop we saw tonight.
Either Charlotte would have completed a decent traitor performance by staying trusted until the end, or one of the faithful would have a eureka moment and convince whoever is left that she's a traitor. Either way, much better than a manipulated win with bogus new powers that dooms the traitor and the seer through no faults of their own.
They didnt even have the basic common sense to make the seer power anonymous and the seer's target anonymous. At least then it would have some element of tactical play to it.
Why on earth were they all so convinced there was another traitor? Did they not think any of the events though?
Frankie giving the faithful the win and being rewarded like that...
I also don't think having to cry to try and manipulate people or some really catty comments to Francesca (first at breakfast and then at the round table) is being a good traitor.I have no idea why people think she was a good traitor. I can only think because she acted ruthlessly.
She was useless in terms of strategy. It made no sense throwing Minah’s name out there so early, and her plan to get rid of Freddie was idiotic as once he realised she had screwed him over, he was only ever to put some suspicion on her - something she would have avoided if she had been less greedy. She wasted a chance to reduce the numbers by trying to frame someone who was probably going to get banished anyway.
She’s just as guilty for voting red because she wanted Alexander out.Why on earth were they all so convinced there was another traitor? Did they not think any of the events though?
Frankie giving the faithful the win and being rewarded like that...
And Jake! I refuse to accept she genuinely thought Jake was a traitor.She’s just as guilty for voting red because she wanted Alexander out.
That’s exactly the same as what I said would have happened? But Charlotte was likely going anyway after Freddie’s comment. So we’d have got exactly the same thing, possibly in a different order with less heat on Charlotte, but with none of the Frankie v Charlotte which is what’s actually entertaining.It would have been a much better finale than that slop we saw tonight.
Either Charlotte would have completed a decent traitor performance by staying trusted until the end, or one of the faithful would have a eureka moment and convince whoever is left that she's a traitor. Either way, much better than a manipulated win with bogus new powers that dooms the traitor and the seer through no faults of their own.
They didnt even have the basic common sense to make the seer power anonymous and the seer's target anonymous. At least then it would have some element of tactical play to it.
I don’t think this is true. At that point most people make the logical decision of getting rid of anyone they have even the tiniest doubt on and gamble on being in the last two with the person they trust the most.They didn't they just wanted more money they knew Frankie wasn't a traitor
But Charlotte was likely going anyway after Freddie’s comment. So we’d have got exactly the same thing, possibly in a different order with less heat on Charlotte, but with none of the Frankie v Charlotte which is what’s actually entertaining.
It would have been a wet fish of an ending.
The Seer had a devastating impact but it was more of a poisoned chalice to the person who got it.
I think the game should just end once they get all the traitors.I don’t think this is true. At that point most people make the logical decision of getting rid of anyone they have even the tiniest doubt on and gamble on being in the last two with the person they trust the most.
Each extra person in the end game is a risk that has zero benefit for them. It will always make logical sense to trim the numbers as much as possible to make your odds better. It’s something they probably need to address. They should maybe make it so that the traitor needs to outnumber/reach parity with the faithful.
Yeah it's literally the one objective of the entire game.I think the game should just end once they get all the traitors.