If anything now is probably a great time to get rid of him before he switches attention to anyone else. If there's one sign of a faithful, it's locking on to someone early on then them being proved to be a Traitor down the line as it's unlikely a Traitor would start an open campaign against another traitor so early in the game and sticking to it until they go.
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If anything now is probably a great time to get rid of him before he switches attention to anyone else. If there's one sign of a faithful, it's locking on to someone early on then them being proved to be a Traitor down the line as it's unlikely a Traitor would start an open campaign against another traitor so early in the game and sticking to it until they go.
Yeah it's a shame because he's at least likeable, but they have the notion that one of the two off the carriage was a Traitor and that someone in the card game was a Traitor. Alexander, having a relatively cool head, seems vexing to them, not really understanding that not everyone overreacts to everything like they're living in a YouTube video. They were actually quite rude to him as well, immediately pumping him for information.
I hope they get rid of Leanne, just because, as was said, her defense of herself became quite nasty. But I have to say anyone with suspicion of Minah probably should have been listening to her reasoning for voting for Linda. The "try something different" line sounded so insincere, and added to that there were legitimate things to point to in Linda's behaviour that had been presented multiple times that she could have used to justify her vote. It sounded like someone hedging their bets.
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Think Jake will get murdered from the off. He is too obvious a faithful now
If a traitor gets found they should 100% not get to murder that night at least, surely, just seems crazy rules now.
Leanne is a bully.
Saw a clip of Alexander alone at the roundtable at the end there, marginalised just like Kas was for being nice - not a nice group of people.
Leanne is a bully.
Saw a clip of Alexander alone at the roundtable at the end there, marginalised just like Kas was for being nice - not a nice group of people.
They also spent half the time leading up to task wishing Leon was alive over Alexander. Once they found him, they then all quickly turned on Leon as well
As a group they are the most unlikable bunch yet.
A few seem decent and I wish Yin was still in she would have been entertaining.
A few seem decent and I wish Yin was still in she would have been entertaining.
Wanting Alexander to do an exact play-by-play and being annoyed he didn't do it was fecking stupid, it's not as if they all had the same experience in differeng places, they were with each other and the only important information was who was killed.
Them thinking a traitor would risk a random game of luck, also stupid.
These lot are genuinely thick as pig shit. I honestly don't like any of them.
Them thinking a traitor would risk a random game of luck, also stupid.
These lot are genuinely thick as pig shit. I honestly don't like any of them.
Especially when they get to Leon and he's like "I just thought of my kids!"
Such nonsense.
They must do lots and lots of takes of most of the suspense scenes, like breakfast when Claudia comes in early, or when they're arriving at a mission or during banishments, if the group reaction doesnt have enough amazement/shock/horror.
I'd find it impossible to keep up the levels of overacting they do in real time. My eyes would have rolled out the side of my head by day 2.
I'd find it impossible to keep up the levels of overacting they do in real time. My eyes would have rolled out the side of my head by day 2.
I think with the round table voting aswell, always seems to be tense until Claudia gives a summary of where the votes are at and then most of the rest vote the same way.
Aye, there's always the idea floating around that a traitor would put themselves in to this sort of situation to make themselves seem like a faithful, but quite often they don't exactly because of that reasoning.
Alexander seemed the only one who had thought what might happen if a traitor has been in the final two.
Leon would be the only one that would even make sense to be a traitor, the group are pretty sure on Anna being a faithful and the two returnees were already seen as potential traitors. If he's a traitor, putting himself in with that group isn't worth the risk.
Tough call between watching this and us getting beat by Southampton.
I don't even know why they act shocked to walk in for breakfast
Poor Alexander. It doesn’t pay to be polite and logical in this does it.
This it is.
Claudia always looks so good.
Charlotte is absolutely going to be Minah's downfall. 
Jo is a moron
Hope they're brave and take the risk. It's the correct play.
I really hope they went for Joe.
Think the Jake thing was a red herring to throw us and create drama and they'll go for Joe.
Charlotte is absolutely going to be Minah's downfall.
It was honestly a mental pick from her. Charlotte has cemented herself as a faithful and will never be banished so can easily turn on her. Minah said she would think about who she can throw under the bus but clearly didn't h. They all had to accept or die, so Leon would have been best. He would have walked or eventually been targeted and be shown a traitor taking eyes off.
But Charlotte doesn't need to do anything - she should let the roundtables flow with Francesca, Leon and Alexander likely for next 3 (or could be set up) and then murder Jake, Joe and Leanne/Lisa. Keep Freddie cos then he will vote Minah out and easy win
Joe is such a fecking moron.
His glee thinking he's caught Alex
Looking at the people who went to the doll house, they should probably be able to guess Jake would be one of the main people trying to get a shield and avoid trying to kill him. Killing Joe probably ends up with Jake even more convinced Frankie is a traitor. Failing on Jake might even make the group suspect a recruitment.
I completely agree! They should absolutely murder someone from the group that went to the cabin. It is a risk not knowing who has the shield, but like you said, I would have bet on the fact that Jake would either be the one most looking for the shield, or one who the rest of the cabin group would agree deserved a shield if they had a choice.His glee thinking he's caught Alex
Looking at the people who went to the doll house, they should probably be able to guess Jake would be one of the main people trying to get a shield and avoid trying to kill him. Killing Joe probably ends up with Jake even more convinced Frankie is a traitor. Failing on Jake might even make the group suspect a recruitment.
So just avoid him and then it puts suspicion on someone else from the cabin group. If they murder from the castle group, then anyone there who isn’t murdered is under more suspicion.
He's the ideal faithful to take to the end.
1) Clueless at who the traitors are
2) Grasps at straws and convinces himself when he has some loophole filled theories
3) Can easily be turned in other direction if someone gives him importance
I think Jake is in the same boat but got lucky with Linda.
Did laugh last night at the idea killing Anna should take some heat off Minah as she had brought her up the night before, but was also part of the reason to vote off Alex as she had accused him several times.
Agree with that yeah, he did well to catch Linda's error but outside of that he's not been up to much and now seems overconfident in his abilities.
I could never get over the argument Jake made towards Kasim. 'Saving lives by day, taking them at night. Makes sense.' How the feck did that make sense? I'm sure I would've had the same reaction as Kas that it's better to be banished than convincing these fools.
Then denied saying it 2 minutes later
A lot of the early game reasoning stems from just having no idea, which is fine but then groups tend to focus on the people they consider intelligent because those are the only people they'd like to think could fool them.
Please let it be Joe. I really hope they pull it off.
Again, thinking Leon is a traitor all because he was calm when they opened the coffin. He wasn't in any danger and he was probably in it for 30 minutes at most. Anna was a crybaby so her behaving like she did fit her character, Leon hasn't cried at all, why think he would be a little bitch because of a small dark space.
Edit: Also, the idiocy during that challenge, they were supposed to recite the backwards words so it would come out sort of right, instead they were just making noises like morons.
Edit: Also, the idiocy during that challenge, they were supposed to recite the backwards words so it would come out sort of right, instead they were just making noises like morons.
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Just as well you weren't on this season Schmiz. You'd have called them morons every day and got voted off pretty quickly. 
I think ultimately the problem with this show is there isn't enough context. We don't get enough footage of people calling out others, or having private chats with the camera to share what they really think.
The Alex vote seemed a bit out of the blue and yet according to some of them he was name checked and talked about the previous day or two.
All we as viewers got what his name being mentioned on the day he was ultimately voted off in.
The Alex vote seemed a bit out of the blue and yet according to some of them he was name checked and talked about the previous day or two.
All we as viewers got what his name being mentioned on the day he was ultimately voted off in.
To me I don't get why none of them seem at all suspicious of Joe and his wild goose chases. You'd think after vociferously getting two faithfuls out in the way he did, a d being unrepentant over either, they'd turn the focus on him.
Vociferously voting out faithfuls is about as a big a tell that someone is a faithful as you can get in this show.
Traitors like to go under the radar. They plant the odd seed but you’d rarely find one being an outspoken instigator when it comes to banishment time.
I'd have flipped that fecking table when they voted out Tyler mateJust as well you weren't on this season Schmiz. You'd have called them morons every day and got voted off pretty quickly.
Nah he's been someone people have suspected from near enough the beginning.
Yeah that was a good move going for the woods group. Was exactly what I was thinking.
Charlotte potentially going to be minahs downfall, all for some bullshit sisterhood crap. She should have chose Jake.
I can't stand Joe's sneering face.