She really is playing a blinder so far. Her only misstep was the recruitment, which was daft from the off.
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She really is playing a blinder so far. Her only misstep was the recruitment, which was daft from the off.
Dan: “we can’t be blinded by those we are close to”
5 minutes later
“minah is my girl”
5 minutes later
“minah is my girl”
I can't remember the exact dialogue but I'm sure Claudia had been talking and then said Traitors midway through a sentence? So surely his point is valid.
It's like someone saying your name midway through. You may not pay attention until it's called and then you turn directly to that person.
I missed who started that. She's playing well.
Please murder Livi to stop the tears!!!
I think it'll be Fozia unfortunately she was intriguing as she seemed to be interesting and switched on
If I'm Lisa I then tell everyone how Linda got so outraged she had considered us to be traitors as we went first in the game. If she hadn't raged at Lisa she could have easily got away with murdering a big threat
I think it'll be Fozia unfortunately she was intriguing as she seemed to be interesting and switched on
If I'm Lisa I then tell everyone how Linda got so outraged she had considered us to be traitors as we went first in the game. If she hadn't raged at Lisa she could have easily got away with murdering a big threat
If she did move when she addressed the traitors (which is what it looks like, but there's always the potential for editing) and he's clocked it then it's a major slip up and it's a valid clue in his eyes.
But if you didn't see it and you're listening to the two sides of the argument her points are equally believable.
As the audience we saw her move at the word traitors and saw that Jake spotted it so naturally we're thinking it's shocking they haven't jumped on that, but if you're only going by their words then her explanation was pretty fair.
I mean, it's still more tangible than someone smiling too much, a glint in the eye or someone being a doctor so they should have revisited it. The problem as always is short term memories.
Linda's a liability. Couldn't control her outrage over the task, that she had to summon Lisa for a chat in front of others. Surprised that wasn't mentioned.
Livi has to go. Please.
Livi has to go. Please.
Minah sitting in the same room as Freddie when he's arguing with a whole group of people about something she had a conversation with him about and not once does he think to bring her into it.She picked the young, naive chump to be the sounding board for her plan.
Wouldn't be shocked if they murdered Liv and everyone just assumes it's Freddie trying to take out the people who suspect him once again, after it "worked" so well for him the first time...
Minah sitting in the same room as Freddie when he's arguing with a whole group of people about something she had a conversation with him about and not once does he think to bring her into it.
Wouldn't be shocked if they murdered Liv and everyone just assumes it's Freddie trying to take out the people who suspect him once again, after it "worked" so well for him the first time...
The only thing is that Livi is not anywhere close to the Traitors and she's a bit of a useful tool for the Traitors right now. Just like Freddie. Distractions and drama is great for Traitors assuming they're not in it. Just like Werewolf bro.
I'd take out the free thinking threats who keep their emotions in check. Fozia is a clear danger.
Fozia is definitely a danger, I'd have tried to recruit her last night not Anna
Unfortunately I think she will be murdered (it's always the smart ones) though I'd murder Livi just to stop the tears
Yellow jumper and purple hair are flying right under the radar. Alexander also seemed to have disappeared into obscurity tonight
Unfortunately I think she will be murdered (it's always the smart ones) though I'd murder Livi just to stop the tears
Yellow jumper and purple hair are flying right under the radar. Alexander also seemed to have disappeared into obscurity tonight
They need to come together to question why they are still here and they might realise that it's because they're both wildly off the mark and being extremely helpful to the traitors. This has happened with two contestants on the Australian version, but they don't strike me as the type to do that.
These are people that have voted people off for twinkles in the eye, laughing too much and being a doctor.
Dan: “we can’t be blinded by those we are close to”
5 minutes later
“minah is my girl”
His facial expressions/eye rolling at the roundtable have me in stitches. He's such a diva.
Enjoyed tonight's episode. That clique tore itself apart over feck all. Poor Leon looked defeated.
I don't get why Anna didn't reveal she was picked and refused and that was why there was no murder. At least she would have slightly increased the odds for the next vote. Her time is numbered anyway and if she is so set on being seen as truthful as she says she is it makes no sense to me. Unless there is some super twist where they recruit her anyway.
I'm struggling to warm to anyone this year, I feel there's way too many love island types and with it way too much weeping and wailing and hysterics
The last 2 years have worked so well because they were all normal people. Maybe a better range of ages next year?
The last 2 years have worked so well because they were all normal people. Maybe a better range of ages next year?
Unintentionally I think she did the right move.
If she revealed they tried to recruit her then they'll either think she's double bluffing to try and safelist herself or they'd believe her and safelist her completely. Both avenues result in her dying quickly.
Why would anyone really believe her anyway? She was under heavy suspicion so why waste a recruit on her. But if she was an original Traitor they could assume it was a last ditch attempt to remove suspicion off her with an added bonus of hiding an actual recruitment. Honestly, I think they'd have voted her off just to be sure.
Revealing it to the group could go two ways. They either believe you - in which case you give the traitors a reason to kill you because you'll be seen as a likely faithful. Or they don't - in which case you're likely to get banished.
You want information and to build trust with a very small group, so I think she did the right thing once she decided to decline the traitors.
Yeah I think they should have chosen someone else.
Yeah, this. What the traitors decide to do after she declined them is out of her hands. But telling the group just means she's putting herself forward for potential banishment too.
Her and Freddie were absolutely horrible choices. They've both just come off a roundtable when they were heavily under suspicion so it's so obvious what the intentions behind the recruitment are.
Really? It's not come across in your posts!
Now to be fair, the one with the twinkle in his eye was also the doctor. That's two suspicious things!These are people that have voted people off for twinkles in the eye, laughing too much and being a doctor.
There’s nowhere near enough brain cells in this series compared to last for it to be compelling
If she'd have told everyone about it as soon as she went in for breakfast then it should've been pretty believable as they didn't know there hadn't been a murder. The day probably unfolds a lot differently as both Tyler and Lisa got a decent amount of suspicion from the group thinking a kill had been blocked.
Makes herself a big target for murder though, if she is believed.
Crazy how all the arguments and suspicions have 0 traitors in them. Literally all the faithfuls arguing with other faithfuls, except Jake who clocked Linda and done nothing about it. Even in death Tyler listed like three other faithfuls to look at
Livi gone they're gonna try and stitch up Freddie, she's shit anyway.
Linda's the luckiest traitor, maybe ever.
Livi gone they're gonna try and stitch up Freddie, she's shit anyway.
Linda's the luckiest traitor, maybe ever.
Or they think she's a traitor trying to throw suspicion off herself after coming under fire the previous day.
Crazy how all the arguments and suspicions have 0 traitors in them. Literally all the faithfuls arguing with other faithfuls, except Jake who clocked Linda and done nothing about it. Even in death Tyler listed like three other faithfuls to look at
Livi gone they're gonna try and stitch up Freddie, she's shit anyway.
Linda's the luckiest traitor, maybe ever.
All the more reason to keep her. She's helping the traitors hide by letting their days be dominated by her quest against Freddie.
Shell get voted out tonight and they faithfuls will go for Freddie next
This is why it would be a mistake. When those two are gone where are heads going to turn? Who knows. That's the problem. But you can be pretty confident that as long as they are both in the game they will be going for each other.
Fozia would be the smarter choice - certainly for Minah. The risk is would it point to Linda.
Also a benefit for Minah.
Maybe, but you can't really control people being daft.
It wouldn't really make much sense for her to be a traitor and walk into the room and tell everyone about that before everyone had come in.
Its a good piece of information for the team to know. It ended up then wasting a day arguing over an idea that she knows is very likely untrue. Maybe she has a plan, but she didn't mention anything in her private chat.
You can't control it, but on the evidence so far, you should expect it.
And it would have been great information for the team, but it's not really a team game. Faithful or not, it's in your interest to get rid of players. You just need to make sure you're not in the firing line.
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Doubly so. Because with two female traitors found there's a good chance the faithful starting looking at the men.
Is Leanne potentially more vulnerable to be voted than Livi?
Whenever I watch it baffles me a little as it’s like the faithfuls have never seen this show before.
Traitors are good at appearing faithful because they are playing the game with perfect information. They should know this by now.
If someone is confidently outspoken when it comes to accusing people of being a traitor… they are probably a faithful. Armani was an exception in many ways because she was such a bad Traitor.
When it comes to banishment, Traitors tend to be a bit more non-commital and passive and will go with the majority… including turning on their own. And Traitors will rarely get defensive of their fellow Traitors.
Traitors are good at appearing faithful because they are playing the game with perfect information. They should know this by now.
If someone is confidently outspoken when it comes to accusing people of being a traitor… they are probably a faithful. Armani was an exception in many ways because she was such a bad Traitor.
When it comes to banishment, Traitors tend to be a bit more non-commital and passive and will go with the majority… including turning on their own. And Traitors will rarely get defensive of their fellow Traitors.
Freddie going down as one of the best traitors of all time, little speech and everyone turns on a nailed on faithful, including his own group who had a hissy fit over being called a group.
Have to give him his dues for addressing the 'clique' directly. Didn't think he had it in him after all his tears the previous day.
As much as I liked Kas, he needed to try something similar, instead of just meekly accepting his fate.
Leanne getting annoyed with Freddie about it, after being mad at Tyler the previous night for not voting the same way as this "not a group" group
I sympathise with kas. Whether or not he was, the show was edited to make it seem he was being alienated by the rest of the group, was accused of being a traitor because of a cringe toast, a twinkle in his eye and his profession. Getting that everyday I imagine, he was tired and sick of it all and probably wanted to leave.
Think freddie is feeling the same.